QB Sam Darnold is a Viking

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Kyle will bring in people per the situation and give them a chance, but as last year proved, he will go with the better situation if a player proves it. We heard nothing about Purdy in camp (probably cause he knew how the media and webzone would act), then boom, Suds was cut for Brock even though he had a guarantee.

If could happen with Sam or not. Everybody (especially that bonehead Florio) thinks they know what Kyle is thinking. Or that they think they know what is happening in camp, like they are there everyday.

Just enjoy the ride.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB? We've signed a handful of failed QBs from other teams, but none of them have amounted to anything.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB?

No.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB? We've signed a handful of failed QBs from other teams, but none of them have amounted to anything.

Baldy is one of the best breaking down the game and understanding football; he's great. Carr was an NFL QB for a very long time, he actually went out on the field and played the game at the highest level, NFL level. So these guys have some chops, no question. They all talk football for a living now.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB? We've signed a handful of failed QBs from other teams, but none of them have amounted to anything.

Baldy is one of the best breaking down the game and understanding football; he's great. Carr was an NFL QB for a very long time, he actually went out on the field and played the game at the highest level, NFL level. So these guys have some chops, no question. They all talk football for a living now.

Like those past four head coaches were Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick and Sean McVay or something. Lol

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB? We've signed a handful of failed QBs from other teams, but none of them have amounted to anything.

Baldy is one of the best breaking down the game and understanding football; he's great. Carr was an NFL QB for a very long time, he actually went out on the field and played the game at the highest level, NFL level. So these guys have some chops, no question. They all talk football for a living now.

Like those past four head coaches were Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick and Sean McVay or something. Lol

Exactly, Kolohe..

Looking at Ring, he says 'for all this talk of this being a better situation'. If you cannot see that the 2023 49ers are better than the Adam Gase Jets.. I cannot help you.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
WHOA DERE jordan. Kyle was high on Beat hard, Gabbert, Jimmy , etc. Pump the brakes a bit before we go all in.

I get it but come on, there's a big talent disparity between Darnold and guys like Gabbert and Beathard.

Not really...

Oh ok

I sure hope I'm wrong but he's a career bust just like Gabbert. Dude was 34th in the league in completion percentage. He's never accomplished s**t and could only get a 1 year deal. Lol this board is funny. Trey sucks but a career bust is top of the line...(slight sarcasm but kind of not )

I'm missing the part where I mentioned Trey in any of this. The only thing I said is that Darnold is superior in talent to Beathard and Gabbert.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Let's wait to see how he looks in our uni with our cast of guys before we judge if he's consistent or not. Frankly I don't care if he wasn't consistent or what his numbers were in NYJ or CAR. I only care if he's good / consistent here, and that is TBD. Let's find out, this summer we will see what is going on.

So 5 years of bad football doesn't matter lol? So you gonna give him more than 30 passing attempts here before saying he stinks or whatever?

On the 5 years of 'bad football'.. do those matter to Kyle? Why is Sam here? Answer those questions.

Your second question is another of your questions.

Why was Josh Rosen here? Or Nate Sudfeld?

Ring, you are too easy. Show me Baldy, Carr, or Rapoport saying Rosen is likely to start week 1 for SF. Or Suds will start week 1.

Ppl say I will wait.. I won't wait. Cuz it doesn't exist. With Sam, it does.

Why does what those guys say matter? For all of the talk about this being a better situation for Darnold, can we point to one other example of Kyle taking a QB that was one of the league's worst under 4 different HCs and turning him into a good QB? We've signed a handful of failed QBs from other teams, but none of them have amounted to anything.

Baldy is one of the best breaking down the game and understanding football; he's great. Carr was an NFL QB for a very long time, he actually went out on the field and played the game at the highest level, NFL level. So these guys have some chops, no question. They all talk football for a living now.

Like those past four head coaches were Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick and Sean McVay or something. Lol

Exactly, Kolohe..

Looking at Ring, he says 'for all this talk of this being a better situation'. If you cannot see that the 2023 49ers are better than the Adam Gase Jets.. I cannot help you.

Where did I say anything about the quality of those coaches? I'm asking for an example of Kyle taking a QB that failed somewhere else, for whatever reason, and turning them around.

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
WHOA DERE jordan. Kyle was high on Beat hard, Gabbert, Jimmy , etc. Pump the brakes a bit before we go all in.

I get it but come on, there's a big talent disparity between Darnold and guys like Gabbert and Beathard.

Not really...

Oh ok

I sure hope I'm wrong but he's a career bust just like Gabbert. Dude was 34th in the league in completion percentage. He's never accomplished s**t and could only get a 1 year deal. Lol this board is funny. Trey sucks but a career bust is top of the line...(slight sarcasm but kind of not )

I'm missing the part where I mentioned Trey in any of this. The only thing I said is that Darnold is superior in talent to Beathard and Gabbert.

You didn't... I did. I was generalizing some on this board. My point still stands that Darnold was 2nd to last in completion percentage right I'm front of Zack Wilson. He's done nothing at all, just like Gabbert. This is like when Trubisky joined the Bills and many thought he'd learn and improve due to being talented and having good coaching. As Ring points out... Who has Kyle completely changed? Beathard? Definitely not by your own admission.

Darnold will be serviceable but I highly doubt he's going to magically improve just because of Kyle. It's not like teams were out pushing for him to come play for them. It's a one year deal because we have no clue about Brock.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Where did I say anything about the quality of those coaches? I'm asking for an example of Kyle taking a QB that failed somewhere else, for whatever reason, and turning them around.

Point is, he was in a bad situation with all those head coaches except maybe Todd Bowles. He was not gonna succeed with Adam Gase as his head coach or Matt Rhule. Notice how well he played when he had a coach players wanted to play for.

You can do it Sam!

What intrigues me about Darnold is that he does have a very good skill set - he went #3 for a reason. He's also show glimpses of really good play, although he's had some pretty bad play intertwined. When you look at the context of his situations, he hasn't played for a good organization/HC/Team, so it makes me wonder if he can gain some consistency in his good play with our organization. I don't blame all his poor play in those, he's responsible for it, but those things do play a factor.

With this roster, coaching (Griese has been a pleasant surprise), and system - it's not far fetched to believe he can give Lance an honest run for his money.

i think Lance will get more opportunities to seize QB2 than Darnold in camp but Darnold has a real chance. Darnold is surprisingly mobile, just as good of an arm as Lance, and I think has a much more natural throwing motion.

it'll be fun to watch.

Originally posted by tankle104:
What intrigues me about Darnold is that he does have a very good skill set - he went #3 for a reason. He's also show glimpses of really good play, although he's had some pretty bad play intertwined. When you look at the context of his situations, he hasn't played for a good organization/HC/Team, so it makes me wonder if he can gain some consistency in his good play with our organization. I don't blame all his poor play in those, he's responsible for it, but those things do play a factor.

With this roster, coaching (Griese has been a pleasant surprise), and system - it's not far fetched to believe he can give Lance an honest run for his money.

i think Lance will get more opportunities to seize QB2 than Darnold in camp but Darnold has a real chance. Darnold is surprisingly mobile, just as good of an arm as Lance, and I think has a much more natural throwing motion.

it'll be fun to watch.

Good players find a way. Nearly the same can be said about Herbert, but nobody questions his ability or status as one of the best young QB's in the league despite being on a bad team with bad coaches.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
What intrigues me about Darnold is that he does have a very good skill set - he went #3 for a reason. He's also show glimpses of really good play, although he's had some pretty bad play intertwined. When you look at the context of his situations, he hasn't played for a good organization/HC/Team, so it makes me wonder if he can gain some consistency in his good play with our organization. I don't blame all his poor play in those, he's responsible for it, but those things do play a factor.

With this roster, coaching (Griese has been a pleasant surprise), and system - it's not far fetched to believe he can give Lance an honest run for his money.

i think Lance will get more opportunities to seize QB2 than Darnold in camp but Darnold has a real chance. Darnold is surprisingly mobile, just as good of an arm as Lance, and I think has a much more natural throwing motion.

it'll be fun to watch.

Good players find a way. Nearly the same can be said about Herbert, but nobody questions his ability or status as one of the best young QB's in the league despite being on a bad team with bad coaches.

After what we saw with Geno Smith in Seattle, I am a believer that Sam Darnold can play at a high level. The kid has had Adam Gase and Matt Rhule as his HC. The best he has had is Steve Wilks as an interim coach.
Trevor Lawrence was looking as a complete draft bust, ruined by Urban Meyer, until he got a competent coach to save his career.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
What intrigues me about Darnold is that he does have a very good skill set - he went #3 for a reason. He's also show glimpses of really good play, although he's had some pretty bad play intertwined. When you look at the context of his situations, he hasn't played for a good organization/HC/Team, so it makes me wonder if he can gain some consistency in his good play with our organization. I don't blame all his poor play in those, he's responsible for it, but those things do play a factor.

With this roster, coaching (Griese has been a pleasant surprise), and system - it's not far fetched to believe he can give Lance an honest run for his money.

i think Lance will get more opportunities to seize QB2 than Darnold in camp but Darnold has a real chance. Darnold is surprisingly mobile, just as good of an arm as Lance, and I think has a much more natural throwing motion.

it'll be fun to watch.

Good players find a way. Nearly the same can be said about Herbert, but nobody questions his ability or status as one of the best young QB's in the league despite being on a bad team with bad coaches.

The difference is that I don't think Darnold will ever lead a team. I see darnold as being capable of being a good player in this league but never a star. Like he can be a really good game manager if he's in the right situation but not an elite player who makes everyone around him better all the time. He has the ability to make some really great throws, like the one he did against us when he was a jet, and that's what can make him a top end game manager. It's the same way I see Trey, except Trey is super inexperienced. Capable of being a really good player in this league but never elite. It's what Kyle is exceptional at identifying/loving - game managers. Lol gives me hope that he wasn't part of Purdy analysis during the draft