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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?
[ Edited by SLCNiner on May 2, 2023 at 2:46 PM ]
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Originally posted by genus49:
Yes the Darnold signing. A QB with such a fine history of excellent play, I'm surprised they didn't just cut Trey and give Darnold the team all to himself...

Obviously Trey will have to show a big improvement this camp but Darnold is not some huge threat. We can speculate what the media said and how much of it came from the 49ers but fact is what they've said publicly and what they've actually done publicly points to them still believing in Trey but obviously with Brock having a leg up as QB1 due to how he performed last season.

There is more than enough said (or not said) to speculate about Trey, one way or the other. I have said as much. So, to me, it's a waste of time trying to get either side to change their tune.

However, I always wonder about the following. Let's take this example on any team other than the 49ers: Your QB1 is injured in the last game of the season. His medical timeline suggests he may be ready by week 1. As a team with good management, you plan for the worst, not the best. Your QB2 is an unknown. You have confidence in him, but he is an unknown, nonetheless. Your QB3 is AWFUL.

Wouldn't your plan be to replace QB3, since he may very well be QB2 for a while? Further, wouldn't you want your QB3 to be the best QB3 possible, without breaking the bank, since he could very well be QB1 for a while (this assumes your unknown QB2 turns out to be bad, instead of an unknown)?

It seems obvious signing Sam was the proper move. The regime is planning for the worst. An action we should all expect from a competent regime. You can draw whatever conspiracies you wish from the action, but it seems, on its face, to be the right move, not a replacement move (yet).
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What? Lol

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.

Convince me that I should believe ONE thing he says. Convince me to trust him as a source. What has he ever written to become reputable? He's posting his opinion. It's like me posting what 9moon writes and calling it fact. Keep believing what you want man, I'll listen to the guys who know what they're doing.
[ Edited by SLCNiner on May 2, 2023 at 3:01 PM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What? Lol


Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.

Convince me that I should believe ONE thing he says. Convince me to trust him as a source. What has he ever written to become reputable? He's posting his opinion. It's like me posting what 9moon writes and calling it fact. Keep believing what you want man, I'll listen to the guys who know what they're doing.

He's not posting his opinion, he's posting a fact from a verifiable source. In fact he includes a link to the source in his post. You can even go and use the (free) tool he is referencing to check the data he is providing yourself in about 30 seconds.
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.

Convince me that I should believe ONE thing he says. Convince me to trust him as a source. What has he ever written to become reputable? He's posting his opinion. It's like me posting what 9moon writes and calling it fact. Keep believing what you want man, I'll listen to the guys who know what they're doing.

He's not posting his opinion, he's posting a fact from a verifiable source. In fact he includes a link to the source in his post. You can even go and use the (free) tool he is referencing to check the data he is providing yourself in about 30 seconds.

OMFG……. 🤦🤦🤦So it's a FACT Darnold has a 62% CHANCE to start? Please tell me how that is a fact. Wait, before we go there, are you positive that you even know what a fact is? Joe?
[ Edited by SLCNiner on May 2, 2023 at 3:20 PM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.

Convince me that I should believe ONE thing he says. Convince me to trust him as a source. What has he ever written to become reputable? He's posting his opinion. It's like me posting what 9moon writes and calling it fact. Keep believing what you want man, I'll listen to the guys who know what they're doing.

He's not posting his opinion, he's posting a fact from a verifiable source. In fact he includes a link to the source in his post. You can even go and use the (free) tool he is referencing to check the data he is providing yourself in about 30 seconds.

OMFG……. 🤦🤦🤦So it's a FACT Darnold has a 62% CHANCE to start? Please tell me how that is a fact. Wait, before we go there, are you positive that you even know what a fact is? Joe?

this may be the most staggering reading comprehension disaster in the history of the WZ
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

He's the guy that spotted this, for example:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What? Lol


Hahahhaha
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this


Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.

OK, convince me. Has he ever scooped one of the real beat writers? Has he ever scooped anything with truth to it?

Convince you of what? There is no scoop. We got 2 #3 overall QBs. Let's let the process play out. I here ppl left and right say it's too early for definitive conclusions, yet last page you are saying TL is starting and Darnold has no chance and you would sell your house if Sam gets it. I've heard other similar takes, many times, from the 'let's not draw future conclusions' crowd. I think you are drawing conclusions here on your TL > Sam stance. It's a process that has to play out on the field this summer. I'm not in the Sam camp, or the TL camp, but the 49ers camp, with an open mind on both these guys going forward. I can say each guy has struggled but 2023 is a new chapter.

Convince me that I should believe ONE thing he says. Convince me to trust him as a source. What has he ever written to become reputable? He's posting his opinion. It's like me posting what 9moon writes and calling it fact. Keep believing what you want man, I'll listen to the guys who know what they're doing.

He's not posting his opinion, he's posting a fact from a verifiable source. In fact he includes a link to the source in his post. You can even go and use the (free) tool he is referencing to check the data he is providing yourself in about 30 seconds.

OMFG……. 🤦🤦🤦So it's a FACT Darnold has a 62% CHANCE to start? Please tell me how that is a fact. Wait, before we go there, are you positive that you even know what a fact is? Joe?

this may be the most staggering reading comprehension disaster in the history of the WZ

Oooooh, don't just tease lil fella, please continue. Where is this disaster exactly? What does his completion % have to do with his chance to start? Do you know the difference between chance and fact?

edit: criticizing reading comprehension while struggling to differentiate between "here" and "hear" is a bad look.
[ Edited by SLCNiner on May 2, 2023 at 4:53 PM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Oooooh, don't just tease lil fella, please continue. Where is this disaster exactly? Do you know the difference between chance and fact?

edit: criticizing reading comprehension when you don't even know how to spell is a bad look.

The one thing I like about chance, is that no mattrer what, you are right. I always wanted to be a meteorologist. I can say 62% chance of rain tomorrow. If it rains, I am right. If it does not rain, I am still right (38% chance of no rain). I wish my current job worked that way.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Oooooh, don't just tease lil fella, please continue. Where is this disaster exactly? Do you know the difference between chance and fact?

edit: criticizing reading comprehension when you don't even know how to spell is a bad look.

The one thing I like about chance, is that no mattrer what, you are right. I always wanted to be a meteorologist. I can say 62% chance of rain tomorrow. If it rains, I am right. If it does not rain, I am still right (38% chance of no rain). I wish my current job worked that way.

Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Oooooh, don't just tease lil fella, please continue. Where is this disaster exactly? Do you know the difference between chance and fact?

edit: criticizing reading comprehension when you don't even know how to spell is a bad look.

The one thing I like about chance, is that no mattrer what, you are right. I always wanted to be a meteorologist. I can say 62% chance of rain tomorrow. If it rains, I am right. If it does not rain, I am still right (38% chance of no rain). I wish my current job worked that way.

Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

We all love Chance.
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