Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It is significant that none of the four former coaches/front office personnel that left SF in the last couple of years, who have inside knowledge of TL, had zero interest in trading for him... they got a close up look see and they know he isn't an NFL caliber starting QB. they all needed QBs and went in another direction:

Saleh NYJ (signed Rodgers, one of the best ever to good to pass up)
Carthon TN (drafted Levis, could have easily traded for TL but passed)
Ryans Houston (drafted Stroud went #2, similar to the TL draft slot, if DR still thought TL was a viable #3 pick he would have tried to work a deal)
McDanieal Miami (TBD, possible but unlikely to trade now, if McD wanted him he would have brought him in now for OTAs and not wait)

The Minnesota rumors may just be that only... could see something in the next month after the June 1st discount, but the TL trade value will plummet by the time the season starts and he is the 3rd QB on the roster and not suiting up for game days.

LOL at this whole post but specifically the terribly written bolded. You didn't say what you thought you saying.

Seems pretty clear. They never didn't not have no interest in trading for Lance.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What? Lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
They don't think it be like it is, but it do. In fact, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What? Lol

He thinks it's fire to be cool. Without realizing how low the tide is.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Darnold gonna give TL a run for his money and that's what you want, imagine at RB do we want crap RBs next to Mitch to guarantee him the two spot? why do ppl want that at QB and not any other position?

because their evaluation is based on emotion, they "believe" in TL, while ignoring his performances...

Still tryin to spout this garbage with a straight face I see. Has Darnold even received a playbook yet? I'm assuming you think he's got the best football mind in the league and will be capable of soaking it all in faster than any QB to date. But you're wrong.

Originally posted by KiwiM3:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by KiwiM3:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
People still think we wanted to trade Lance.

We did for the right price.

That Ian Rappoport tweet a week or so ago might as well have been written by John Lynch it was that transparent.

By that reasoning the only player on the roster who is untouchable imo is Bosa. There is nobody who can fill his shoes.

Everyone else could be traded if the offer was THAT ridiculous.

Nobody was offering anything ridiculous for Lance therefore almost everyone understood he wasnt being traded. It made no sense at this time.

The main reasons it's not as attractive to trade him last week are the Cap hit (makes more sense to trade him later) and Brock's injury uncertainty.

Obviously the attractiveness of trading him before the Draft is the ability to turn that into picks/players for this season.

There's a bit of a difference between Bosa (where Lynch said don't bother calling at the pre-Draft press conference) and Lance where they were trying to drum up interest in Lance.

Throw in the Darnold signing and the writing is on the wall for Lance. It feels like last chance saloon this offseason for Trey.

When we restructured CMC it made it smarter to trade him Pre-June 1 financially.

The reason we're not is like you said, we have no idea on Purdy's timeline.

After June 1 it makes no difference to the 2024 cap if we trade him this year or next off season so might as well keep him for insurance and see if he gets enough playing time to up his value.

I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
It's all arguments from stupidity. It's useless words on meaningless blogs. Purdy aint gonna be ready for the start of the season but he has earned his shot at starter. Lance has flashed and earned the coaches trust enough to kick JG to 2nd string even when JG was earning a high salary.

Stop with the trade BS, stop with everything else... it makes half the zone look like lemmings. Some analyst said Darnold will get meaningful reps? weird why would anyone say that in the offseason? IDK maybe its how Deebo was never gonna play a game in a niners uniform again... Come on fan base, lets be better than the talking heads. Lance will still get his shot, it's lined up perfectly for him since Brock wont be in the picture for awhile. Darnold wont see the field unless there is an injury or Lance absolutely flops. I have a bridge to sell anyone who thinks Darnold has a chance at starting outright over Lance.

Agree 💯%, the trade Trey folks, keep forgetting the physical side of the matchup. Purdy is pretty much maxed out in terms of physical talent. Yes, his arm will probably be slightly stronger after the operation, but he is *physically* what he is. Mentally Purdy is elite. Trey has some awesome physical gifts, and still has a chance *to improve* mentally. The chance is more than zero. If you can get Trey to Brock's elite processing level (which is where the Trade Trey folks have great doubts) you have a for sure hall of fame talent there. I think it's worth it to give it another year, even if you have just a slight chance to develop another John Elway/Steve Young talent. Trey has a reasonable sized window of opportunity to get better and *maybe* surpass Brock. Maybe. Kyle will give him all the chances in the world to make it through that window - three first round picks says so. But I don't see anything that says Trey can't do it. It's just too small a sample set yet, from my perspective, to make that determination. I think one more year and lets see where he is after that, and then I think you have a better shot at making the right decision.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and Jack Hammer had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

Well that's exactly my point, if you were an UDFA and you could choose where to sign - would you sign here with essentially your best option being practice squad.

Or would you rather try the Texans/Bucs/atl etc. i know I would, you have a real chance to make the roster.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by KiwiM3:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
People still think we wanted to trade Lance.

We did for the right price.

That Ian Rappoport tweet a week or so ago might as well have been written by John Lynch it was that transparent.

By that reasoning the only player on the roster who is untouchable imo is Bosa. There is nobody who can fill his shoes.

Everyone else could be traded if the offer was THAT ridiculous.

Nobody was offering anything ridiculous for Lance therefore almost everyone understood he wasnt being traded. It made no sense at this time.

Trent Williams says hi.

Kyle also said the team would listen to trade offers for him personally, or Lynch if a team wanted either of them bad enough. I sure hope that doesn't mean faith has been lost in either of them. Anyone thinking Bosa wouldn't be traded for the right price is up in the night. This is the NFL and we all know what that stands for. The Bosa comments were made to keep people like some here from starting any rumor BS while they're working to sign him to a fairly big contract.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should anyone care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this

According to The Edge tool over @The33rdTeamFB, Sam Darnold had a 61.9% completion rate on throws over 21 yards last season. Fourth best among QB's with at least 360 snaps. (Darnold had 363)

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) May 2, 2023

Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I wonder if QBs decided to not sign here because we have three guys that they had no chance of beating out for a roster spot.

Darnold signed here with 2 QBs he has no chance of beating, short of injury, so I doubt it.

We will see. I think and some Jack Off had this take also, Sam and TL will compete and Sam will have to win it pretty clearly, if it's close it goes to TL. I was on record we would add a FA with a lot of starts, which we did, and on record it will be a comp, which it will. It's a near 50/50 imo. Sam is much more veteran, the org has more tied into TL tho.

Who is that and why should I care what he says? Darnold ain't picking up Kyle's playbook in 2 months, and knowing what I do about him, I would bet my house and everything I own that he would play Trey over a guy reading WCO For Dummies.

He covers 49ers for a living, kinda like us here on the WZ, yet he gets paid and we don't

TL can improve but SD can learn it that's why KS hired him, he learns a new system every season

Mr Hammer just tweeted this

According to The Edge tool over @The33rdTeamFB, Sam Darnold had a 61.9% completion rate on throws over 21 yards last season. Fourth best among QB's with at least 360 snaps. (Darnold had 363)

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) May 2, 2023

Yeah sorry, posting his tweets lends zero credence to his opinion. If Matt said it I'd probably listen, but I'd also believe Matt.

Jack Hammer is a sharp guy.