Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Because to not even mention Dre Greenlaw's play is certainly not trying to paint the picture correctly of how that game unraveled.

On Dre, I have mentioned him plenty.. this is the TL thread so I don't do Dre Greenlaw takes here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I agree with you

looking at that QB class

Lawrence - stud
Fields - electric last season and adding DJ Moore, Claypool, lot of draft picks, expected to take another step
Wilson - dud
Mac & Lance - both put on blast, Lance by JL and Mac by BB

I expect Mac and Lance to show up this offseason like their future depends on it cuz it does

True. I'm just ready to have a good summer and get one of these guys in to work at QB1 then kick off this season kicking butt on the gridiron!

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

Am I wrong?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
they both had wide open TDs on a platter but one QB hit theirs, why is this so comical? TL isn't very accurate right now, and he needs to work on it

Bahahaha so now it's down to ONE play? How about the throw to Jennings that was a walk in Td if not for the s**tty field conditions? If you're comparing the over throw to Kroft to the Pettis throw. Then just say you don't know s**t about QB play. Those were NOT close to the same type of throws. My god you try so hard and you just look worse and worse…

Don't b******t and tell me these were similar throws or required the same amount of accuracy to complete (and don't tell me the field condition/weather didn't play a part, look at the field there).



where was this energy, when Jimmy missed those same f**king passes from you?!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
On Dre, I have mentioned him plenty.. this is the TL thread so I don't do Dre Greenlaw takes here

Well you're no good at QB takes either. So there's that

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

this is textbook projection.

and also f**king hilarious.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

this is textbook projection.

and also f**king hilarious.

Am I wrong?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

this is textbook projection.

and also f**king hilarious.

Am I wrong?

You are not wrong. I don't know why you come into this thread either.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

What does the 2021 playoffs have to do with Justin Fields or Trey Lance?

It has to do with a poster not being consistent in how he grades QBs. It's only excuses for Trey.

So you are discussing a poster rather than the team and bringing Jimmy G into it?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

this is textbook projection.

and also f**king hilarious.

Am I wrong?

you're not wrong if you're including yourself as one of the posters who does this egregiously on this forum. especially when it comes to QBs not named Lance.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.

notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

No I am not. YOU are doing that in your head.

You are making me want to stop engaging with you on this board. Its ridiculous that you are even arguing at this point. Literally all I said was the circumstances around Trey's week 1 start was vastly different than the circumstances Brock faced (and listed the circumstances). Why cant you just move along? You are literally creating an argument in your head, and arguing against facts.

if your point is the offense is better than CMC what kind of point is that.. that doesn't need said
my point stands that if you want to talk vast talent differences.. I saw one week 1, and TL had the talent around him, JF didn't.. we legit cut Pettis from our roster, ST Brown cut as well

what I hear is a lot of reasons for why BP did well and TL didn't and I don't buy it.. I will say of course we are better with CMC, but if JF can win with cut receivers no one wants vs the #1 D; then Deebo, BA, Shanahan, Trent are all filet mignon compared to what Fields had to work with..

I see 49er fans all around me disregarding our talent; for example I was laughed at when I called our tackles bookend tackles, meanwhile in the real NFL, Trent is going to Canton, and McG just got paid $87.5 million. We aren't a bad roster, even without CMC we are very very good. Bears would have traded talent with us in a heartbeat, and try imaging for a second TL with no Deebo, no BA, no Trent, no Shanny and EQ St Brown and Pettis.

Will you just stop? The conversation I was having had absolutely nothing to do with Fields and the Bears. Just stop. You are arguing with no one. This entire reply of yours is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Completely.

lol you mentioned week 1
you mentioned playing on the road in the rain

Yes. And for the 12th time, we were talking about Lance in week one compared to Purdy. Is this really that difficult a concept for you to grasp?

Comparing Lance to Purdy on the field is pretty lobsided at this point. One has been widely successful while the other has not.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What does the 2021 playoffs have to do with Justin Fields or Trey Lance?

It has to do with a poster not being consistent in how he grades QBs. It's only excuses for Trey.

So you are discussing a poster rather than the team and bringing Jimmy G into it? There should be a thread for the Butthurt.

I think there's many of those in the politics section.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bahahaha so now it's down to ONE play? How about the throw to Jennings that was a walk in Td if not for the s**tty field conditions? If you're comparing the over throw to Kroft to the Pettis throw. Then just say you don't know s**t about QB play. Those were NOT close to the same type of throws. My god you try so hard and you just look worse and worse…

Don't b******t and tell me these were similar throws or required the same amount of accuracy to compete (and don't tell me the field condition/weather didn't play a part, look at the field there).

Another angle of Trey Lance's incompletion targeting Tyler Kroft. I thought it was a TD😩 pic.twitter.com/ca8kCfjX8w

— Travis Bell (@TravTheSav_) September 12, 2022

Justin Fields got out of trouble for a TD to Dante Pettis 💪

(via @NFL) pic.twitter.com/uRkO55UyFZ

— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) September 11, 2022

I appreciate showing the plays NY.

In NFL, these throws are considered layups. Gotta hit your layups. Notice on JFs he has to show his athleticism to get out of a jam. In coverage, it's hard to hold up for 5-7+ secs. On the JF play I count about 7-8 secs prior to ball out of hand.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

this is textbook projection.

and also f**king hilarious.

Am I wrong?

you're not wrong if you're including yourself as one of the posters who does this egregiously on this forum. especially when it comes to QBs not named Lance.

I guess. I disagree, but either way it has little to do with this thread which I've barely gone into since Trey's ankle injury.