Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You almost make it sound like BP was a better prospect thanks to his collegiate experience

to me the 300 attempts was a major red flag one of a handful

Breakout age is important in the draft process….And if you actually watched Brock's collegiate experience you'd get why he wasn't a 1st rd pick all said and done. Sometimes having 4 yrs of experience isn't great in the fact that a guy could very well be close to being maxed out.

Drafting is about evaluating what a player can become long-term not just want a guy can do day 1. Imo it's the same thing with Mac Jones. His skill set lead to him being more ready day 1 to play in the NFL…baseline is good BUT what he could ultimately become was lower than the others.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You almost make it sound like BP was a better prospect thanks to his collegiate experience

to me the 300 attempts was a major red flag one of a handful

Breakout age is important in the draft process….And if you actually watched Brock's collegiate experience you'd get why he wasn't a 1st rd pick all said and done. Sometimes having 4 yrs of experience isn't great in the fact that a guy could very well be close to being maxed out.

Drafting is about evaluating what a player can become long-term not just want a guy can do day 1. Imo it's the same thing with Mac Jones. His skill set lead to him being more ready day 1 to play in the NFL…baseline is good BUT what he could ultimately become was lower than the others.

And that's why there was NO way in hell I would trade three firsts to draft and max out the potential of Mac Jones. I KNEW that trade up had to be for one of Justin Fields or Trey Lance. You just don't have to move that many assets for a guy that I KNEW would be there for us at pick number 12. There was NO way Mac Jones was on anyone's draft board in the top 10. He just didn't have those type of measurables to be there

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Ok yea i really don't know. Running trey nine times between the tackles tells me he's not interested in developing him as a pocket passer. That's all I can say. No idea about the draft selection process

That's right. You CLEARLY have no idea if you think Trey wasn't Kyles guy. Kyle said it Lynch said it York said it. Kyle just simply agreed with what the others in the organization were thinking

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
There's not a good argument that he wasn't.

Kyle would have had a s**t-fit if there was meddling and his choice was overruled. Beyond the fact that there isn't any serious evidence to support the idea, you can look at his coaching past for examples of how he would have handled something like that: the RG3/Cousins situation in Washington, and the better example with Johnny Manziel in Cleveland. He forced his way out his contract over Manziel.

I think you could speculate that he may have been on the fence over the pick at one point, and potentially nudged in Lance's direction by others in the FO, but he was on board with the pick when it was made.

Kyle was quoted they moved up with Trey in mind but after the interviews they settled on Trey definitively and took him. They sent their personal coach Beck to work with Fields and Lance not Jones and they took Trey. Moved up to the tune of three firsts so no one can tell me who Kyle wanted when I'm looking at number 5 in a Niners jersey

I wonder if the Niners stayed at 12 and Trey fell into their laps and they took him there would the whole narative around Trey Lance be different? Instead of the media calling him a bust they would say the Niners got a steal?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Breakout age is important in the draft process….And if you actually watched Brock's collegiate experience you'd get why he wasn't a 1st rd pick all said and done. Sometimes having 4 yrs of experience isn't great in the fact that a guy could very well be close to being maxed out.

Drafting is about evaluating what a player can become long-term not just want a guy can do day 1. Imo it's the same thing with Mac Jones. His skill set lead to him being more ready day 1 to play in the NFL…baseline is good BUT what he could ultimately become was lower than the others.

This is spot on. Purdy is kind of a strange one that I don't think anyone could've seen coming, like you said. His best season was is Sophmore year and he regressed after that. Could be for a multitude of reasons but typically and obviously, you would want the opposite to happen and see progression. Hopefully for us that means that he will progress in the NFL

Originally posted by fl4sh080:
I actually rewatched the little action he had in the Seattle game and they moved the ball effortlessly. Seattle seemed scared to move with the threat of him taking off up the middle so I see what Shanahan was trying to do with all those QB runs. And I thing it'll work if Lance can stay healthy.

If it wasn't for the storm in Chicago it's a blowout the other way.

I hope he gets a fair look in training camp.

He's taking all the preseason reps and starting all the preseason games. Haven't you heard? He's going to get his shot all off-season and then at the start of this season. If he's playing well he's going to keep the job

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL, today this is the Jimmy thread.

No one wants to talk about Trey here.

Everyone run! It's the Woo Police!

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I wonder if the Niners stayed at 12 and Trey fell into their laps and they took him there would the whole narative around Trey Lance be different? Instead of the media calling him a bust they would say the Niners got a steal?

Pick 12 for a handful of quarters in 2 years.. where does the steal part come in?

All that can get the narrative flipped here is TL being on the field and producing.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I wonder if the Niners stayed at 12 and Trey fell into their laps and they took him there would the whole narative around Trey Lance be different? Instead of the media calling him a bust they would say the Niners got a steal?

The media is irrelevant because Trey has started four games and we went 2-2 and we've been to two NFCCG since he was drafted. I kinda think we know what we're doing over here.

There's NO way Trey was there for us at 12 which is why we moved up to get him

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pick 12 for a handful of quarters in 2 years.. where does the steal part come in?

All that can get the narrative flipped here is TL being on the field and producing.

I got a feeling we'll see a LOT of that this year!

I hate that it has become a Trey vs Purdy thing in here but can't say I'm surprised. I honestly like both but for the sake of this board/argument; gun to my head, I still think Trey has the brighter future in the NFL. Whether with us or somewhere else seems to be the question with Brock's emergence. But team Trey until it isn't possible for this team anymore

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pick 12 for a handful of quarters in 2 years.. where does the steal part come in?

All that can get the narrative flipped here is TL being on the field and producing.

I got a feeling we'll see a LOT of that this year!

I don't think there would be anything better for this franchise I mean we are loaded beyond belief if we get the QB spot figured I see us on the KC level or better

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pick 12 for a handful of quarters in 2 years.. where does the steal part come in?

All that can get the narrative flipped here is TL being on the field and producing.

I got a feeling we'll see a LOT of that this year!

I don't think there would be anything better for this franchise I mean we are loaded beyond belief if we get the QB spot figured I see us on the KC level or better

It would've been amazing if we had our QB situation figured out after the 1st year with Hoyer. No doubt we would've won several rings.

Just goes to show that you can have an great roster but if u don't have the QB it takes a lot of luck then to win a SB

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
It would've been amazing if we had our QB situation figured out after the 1st year with Hoyer. No doubt we would've won several rings.

Just goes to show that you can have an great roster but if u don't have the QB it takes a lot of luck then to win a SB

Been over 20 years since this team had a FQB.. KS has been afforded all these ones to move up and paying another a then record $137m.. so ownership giving him all the ways to get and develop his guy..