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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Yeah, you have a serious reading comprehension issue. Of course "as an individual" he wouldn't be that successful. That was the point of the entire post, homie. On THIS team, he wouldn't be playing as an individual. At any rate, coach disagrees with whether or not he'd be successful, otherwise he wouldn't have signed him. Ive laid out the reasons to support my opinion, while you just argue with no reasoning. That's it for me, I know you relish arguing for the sake of it, but I personally can't stand posts like that.


Amazing that you question my reading comprehension when you are clearly struggling with a very basic point I made.

No quarterback plays the game as an individual. They all have individual abilities however. Your 'reasoning' for the opinion that Josh Johnson could QB this team to a .500 record completely ignores this, and completely ignores what Josh Johnson has shown in his career. He is a bad quarterback. He's been in the league for 15 years, and started 9 times. His teams are 1-8 in those games and his production is well below average, being kind. There's nothing in his body of work that says he has the ability to quarterback any team, in any situation, to a middling record.

Just because our team won an NFC championship game throwing less than 10 passes in 2019, or that we were able to go to an NFC championship game with a 7th round rookie, doesn't mean the team can carry a bad Quarterback and have any level of success. A dysfunctional quarterback, which is what Josh Johnson has shown himself to be in almost every situation he's played, can sink an entire offense. You think the 2019 Green Bay Packers go into a game against the Jimmy Garoppolo 49ers with the same defensive gameplan as a Josh Johnson led 49ers team? There's no chance. These games are not played in a vacuum. The 49ers are not quarterback proof.

Jimmy Garoppolo is an average starting QB. Brock Purdy, while being a 7th round pick, showed he could be an above average QB. That's based on their individual ability. On this team, with all the help they receive from the great players, system, and coaches, they both have shown the ability to lead efficient offenses and put up QB efficiency numbers that rival some of the best QBs in the league. Would their job be more difficult on lesser teams? Without question it would... but that doesn't mean they are easily replaceable and that any QB could come in and have success. These guys have skills as players. They are not plug and play pieces where their ability is meaningless.

When you can support your opinion that Josh Johnson would have success here based on his individual ability in conjunction with how our team could help him, you'll have worthwhile reasoning. Right now, you have nothing other than comparisons to what our team was able to accomplish with different QBs who are clearly superior players to Johnson.

Appreciate your assumption that I like to argue just to argue, and your misplaced insult about my reading comprehension. Really means a lot!

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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Tell that to Kyle Shanahan. He's heavily invested in Trey the 49ers are heavily invested in him so as a 49er fan that makes me heavily invested in Trey as well.

I support my team and it's players so long as they wear the red and the gold

Well I am obviously in the minority but I am just as invested in the future of this team as I am in the present. Which is why I am still so big on wanting them to develop Trey. I want this team to be very good for the next decade. Not just the next year or two. But fans are so desperate for that 6th SB that they don't care at all about the future. And the thing is going all-in to try and get that SB still doesn't guarantee you are going to win it.

Stop it with that common sense. Please only post with ignorant raw emotion instead!

I said to myself. This sucks for Purdy because we know they found a starter at minimum imo. BUT we really don't know about Lance. He needs experience. Well now he'll dominate another offseason which is a good thing.

I was OK with maybe missing out this season IF as the season progressed we all agreed- damn Trey is growing and going to be GOOD. So many fans are like "F that I want to win now! This roster will suck in a year! Blah blah"

If they can develop Trey properly you will have a qb running Kyle's schemes for 12-15 years which means we will be payoff caliber everyone of them. Yeah, that's the smart goal imo.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.
Point taken.
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.
Point taken.

Come on, guys. We're all family here, let's be tolerant of each other, no matter if our opinions differ.
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.

Is he going to have a legit chance at the job or is he just keeping it warm until Brock is ready?
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 31, 2023 at 7:01 PM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.

Is he going to have a legit chance at the job or is he just keeping it warm until Brock is ready?

TREY must already be feelin the pressure... it's natural for him to feel it and knows that he has to perform better than Purdy... the very least must be NFCGG again..
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.
Point taken.

Come on, guys. We're all family here, let's be tolerant of each other, no matter if our opinions differ.
I have no problem with differing opinions but comments like that insulating that Purdys somehow to blame for the championship game outcome are a whole other thing I'll bet he had a big old smile on his face win Johnson entered the game.
[ Edited by DaleGribble on Jan 31, 2023 at 7:12 PM ]
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.
Point taken.

Come on, guys. We're all family here, let's be tolerant of each other, no matter if our opinions differ.
I have no problem with differing opinions but comments like that are whole other thing.

It's cool, man - we're all allowed to be silly at times.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 31, 2023 at 7:11 PM ]
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Does anyone think Trey is going to come back and look any different than he has in his small sample of starting games. He cant run KS offense so he'll keep running till he gets hurt.

keep for back up role/

It would be interesting if he came back different either less weight to add speed or more weight to lean into the power stuff. Hard to be pounding the weight room like a maniac tho when his foot has been jacked all year. Hurts is an example of a QB who has extreme power can run over ppl. The rush TDs speak for themselves. He's got time all offseason to get his body and game right.

Maybe, he picked up some of Brocks game watching from the sidelines.

Hopefully he hasn't considering that Purdy's game lead us to one of the worst NFC Championship losses in franchise history.

Welcome to ignore, dumbass. Been a long time coming, but you've earned it.
Yeah hes quite the douche bag isn't he why his act is tolerated around here is beyond me hes the Skip Bayless of the webzone.

Some are here just to troll. Don't get baited into a warning.

At least Skip owns his bias and takes his beatings when he's wrong. I'll take the warning / time out / ban. It's an indictment of this forum's approach to moderating the community.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.

Is he going to have a legit chance at the job or is he just keeping it warm until Brock is ready?

IMO, legit chance at the job.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.

Is he going to have a legit chance at the job or is he just keeping it warm until Brock is ready?

IMO, legit chance at the job.

It's his job to lose at this moment imo.
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Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think Trey will be fine this year as long as hes healthy and can play the full year.

Is he going to have a legit chance at the job or is he just keeping it warm until Brock is ready?

IMO, legit chance at the job.

It's his job to lose at this moment imo.

Wow, even when Brock is ready to go?
excited for Lance. and even if he struggles initially, we still have Purdy.

all is good in niner land.
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