Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Stafford tried to fold, and Tartt dropped the ball, he is who he has always been, he just had a better team around him than in Detroit. Also, you have a bad habit of trying to blame a single player for team collapses. We lost that superbowl because our pass rush got gassed and couldn't get pressure on Mahomes. They blew a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter, that is not solely on Garoppolo, though he certainly played his part in it.

He also lead game winning drives. He can overcome a INT Jimmy not a chance. I'll take a gunslinger like Stafford/Favre all day over the game managers like Jimmy.

Yes you're right having the worst 4th QR rating in Super History didn't matter. Having more INTs than TDs and overall the worst 4th QR rating in all of his playoff games combined didn't affect "blowing leads" late in games.

We lost that SB for a bunch of reasons, ONE major reason was because of the QB play...who if he did his job correctly late in games, wouldn't have to depend on the pass rush.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Yeah that statement was completely wrong 😂 Stafford in FACT did fold. Every time he played us he was playing against a few backups on defense as well. Especially in the secondary which he should have NO excuse to fold against us but yet he did. Both times he played us in the regular season he got beat, he threw the critical interception against us in week 18 that allowed us to get in the playoffs. He also threw two interceptions against us the first game at our home when he got absolutely destroyed and looked like garbage. He did fold twice. In the playoffs he was very close to throwing another two interceptions in tartt dropping the easiest pick any of us have ever seen.

So yes, he did fold against us and as a matter of a fact this is the qb that LED the NFL in interceptions and pick sixes. Stafford folded plenty of times with pressure up the middle. Against us, the Titans and many other teams throughout the year. Just a really really bad example

Last 3 drives for Stafford vs SF TD/FG/FG...his last drive lasted 5mins and gave them the lead. Jimmy's last 3 drives. Punt/Punt/INT. If we're gonna talk about what if INTS Jimmy had TWO that Ramsey should have picked off. One a legit pick 6. So who folded that game?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Making correct reads and not missing wide open guys?

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh I'm fully aware that they've had to dumb the game down for the average fan today. Plus fantasy football is such a huge money maker, they're catering to that crowd.

Originally posted by thl408:
It is. Watch what happens in the next ten years. It won't be Brady and Foles winning SBs.

That's the whole point lol. Dude sounds like Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino lol. Old crusty man talking about decades ago like it's still the same. The rules have changed. The players/talent level playing at QB/WR are not the same. s**t the guys playing on the DL aren't the same. The play calling isn't the same. How these QBs are taught and groomed aren't even close to the same. I follow all those QB collective/QB takover/3DQB camps and all those guys are teaching much differently now.

There is always gonna be a need to play in the pocket, read coverages, and scheme up stuff. BUT on top of that you're gonna need to make those off strucure plays. Being able to move is a thing now. I think we have a guy that can do both which is what you want in today's league.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

By winning the game lol.

Originally posted by thl408:
Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

LOL right? Yeah the play calling back in the day was so advanced as well. run on 1st/2nd and throw on 3rd. rinse and repeat. There's a ton of nuance in today's game on both sides of the ball. You have to prepare for MORE now

Furlow watching plays like this




Why wouldn't you want a QB that can do all of it?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Last 3 drives for Stafford vs SF TD/FG/FG...his last drive lasted 5mins and gave them the lead. Jimmy's last 3 drives. Punt/Punt/INT. If we're gonna talk about what if INTS Jimmy had TWO that Ramsey should have picked off. One a legit pick 6. So who folded that game?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Making correct reads and not missing wide open guys?

How's he going to do that when he's injured after Shanabum ran him into the line on a QB dive?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by thl408:
Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

In fairness, that play was practiced A LOT. So it wasn't really running around.

Amazing that he doesn't know that lol.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Making correct reads and not missing wide open guys?

How's he going to do that when he's injured after Shanabum ran him into the line on a QB dive?

If that's the strategy we have much bigger fish to fry

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Making correct reads and not missing wide open guys?

How's he going to do that when he's injured after Shanabum ran him into the line on a QB dive?

If that's the strategy we have much bigger fish to fry

I'm sure Kyle won't utilise Lance the same way as he did against the cards last season.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Making correct reads and not missing wide open guys?

How's he going to do that when he's injured after Shanabum ran him into the line on a QB dive?

If that's the strategy we have much bigger fish to fry

I'm sure Kyle won't utilise Lance the same way as he did against the cards last season.

Agreed

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by thl408:
Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

In fairness, that play was practiced A LOT. So it wasn't really running around.

Amazing that he doesn't know that lol.

Montana being able to prolong the play gives it an element of being out of structure. The primary on the play, on rhythm, was for Soloman. I give it to you that they practiced it. But the ability to extend the play and throw off platform, that's the type of athleticism and ability that coaches like to have from this generation of QBs.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by thl408:
Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

In fairness, that play was practiced A LOT. So it wasn't really running around.

Amazing that he doesn't know that lol.

Montana being able to prolong the play gives it an element of being out of structure. The primary on the play, on rhythm, was for Soloman. I give it to you that they practiced it. But the ability to extend the play and throw off platform, that's the type of athleticism and ability that coaches like to have from this generation of QBs.

amazing how they dumbed down that iconic play