Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Super Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD
Super Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD
Super Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD
Super Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD
Super Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 1 TDs
Super Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,
Super Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD
Super Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs
Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs
Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 56: Matt Stafford, 3 TDs

The game is changing though. Lol okay.

Originally posted by Furlow:
So 2 out of the last 3 seasons (one of which was a fluke win by Mahomes) invalidates the entire history of the NFL? Okay.

Name your top 10 Qbs today. You will perhaps find 1 pure pocket passer. The history of the NFL doesn't matter today. It doesn't matter that in 1970 everyone was a pocket passer. It doesn't matter that in most years RBs were always selected top 5. Things change. Change can be scary but it's happening. And I think if you don't have that athleticism, you better have an absolutely elite arm or you'll be left behind.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

My point isn't Jimmy is better than Mahomes. What I'm saying is if Mahomes had Brady's mechanics and footwork, he would be a better QB. Again, sweet highlights though, I know that's what matters to you guys.

And if Brady could run around evading rushers, then chuck it 40 yards off his backfoot, he'd be a better QB. It'd be a very sweet highlight, and very entertaining, which is what the NFL is - an entertainment business.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

Stafford tried to fold, and Tartt dropped the ball, he is who he has always been, he just had a better team around him than in Detroit. Also, you have a bad habit of trying to blame a single player for team collapses. We lost that superbowl because our pass rush got gassed and couldn't get pressure on Mahomes. They blew a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter, that is not solely on Garoppolo, though he certainly played his part in it.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

Stafford tried to fold, and Tartt dropped the ball, he is who he has always been, he just had a better team around him than in Detroit. Also, you have a bad habit of trying to blame a single player for team collapses. We lost that superbowl because our pass rush got gassed and couldn't get pressure on Mahomes. They blew a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter, that is not solely on Garoppolo, though he certainly played his part in it.

Yeah that statement was completely wrong 😂 Stafford in FACT did fold. Every time he played us he was playing against a few backups on defense as well. Especially in the secondary which he should have NO excuse to fold against us but yet he did. Both times he played us in the regular season he got beat, he threw the critical interception against us in week 18 that allowed us to get in the playoffs. He also threw two interceptions against us the first game at our home when he got absolutely destroyed and looked like garbage. He did fold twice. In the playoffs he was very close to throwing another two interceptions in tartt dropping the easiest pick any of us have ever seen.

So yes, he did fold against us and as a matter of a fact this is the qb that LED the NFL in interceptions and pick sixes. Stafford folded plenty of times with pressure up the middle. Against us, the Titans and many other teams throughout the year. Just a really really bad example

I'm really pleased by the all the current players showing their support for Lance in the media.

I know it's a case of 'what do you expect them to say' but it's still cool - common themes as well around hard work - the kid is a grinder and has the respect of the team.

Hugely exciting.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Super Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD
Super Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD
Super Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD
Super Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD
Super Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 1 TDs
Super Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,
Super Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD
Super Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs
Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs
Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 56: Matt Stafford, 3 TDs

The game is changing though. Lol okay.

It is. Watch what happens in the next ten years. It won't be Brady and Foles winning SBs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No you're reading it wrong. He has the 2nd quickest TTT only Big Ben had a faster TTT.

Ok. Had me confused for a moment

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

My point isn't Jimmy is better than Mahomes. What I'm saying is if Mahomes had Brady's mechanics and footwork, he would be a better QB. Again, sweet highlights though, I know that's what matters to you guys.

And if Brady could run around evading rushers, then chuck it 40 yards off his backfoot, he'd be a better QB. It'd be a very sweet highlight, and very entertaining, which is what the NFL is - an entertainment business.

Oh I'm fully aware that they've had to dumb the game down for the average fan today. Plus fantasy football is such a huge money maker, they're catering to that crowd.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

My point isn't Jimmy is better than Mahomes. What I'm saying is if Mahomes had Brady's mechanics and footwork, he would be a better QB. Again, sweet highlights though, I know that's what matters to you guys.

And if Brady could run around evading rushers, then chuck it 40 yards off his backfoot, he'd be a better QB. It'd be a very sweet highlight, and very entertaining, which is what the NFL is - an entertainment business.

Oh I'm fully aware that they've had to dumb the game down for the average fan today. Plus fantasy football is such a huge money maker, they're catering to that crowd.

Dumb down the game?

Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're only further proving our point lol. Average play from a pocket passing game manager was nearly enough to overcome these "off platform" QB's that you guys adore so much.

Yeah and when you need to win and make a play a guy like Jimmy s**ts the bed. He can't play out of structure. Meanwhile you got Mahomes on a 3rd and 15 running back 15 yard and throwing a 50 yard pass off his back foot with Buck all over him. that's the difference between winning and losing.

Stafford is an elite thrower that isn't gonna fold like a lawn chair if there's pressure up the middle. He proved that vs SF.

we want a QB that can do ALL of it. Someone that actually makes everyone better around him, not dependent of everyone else having to execute perfectly to make s**t work.

My point isn't Jimmy is better than Mahomes. What I'm saying is if Mahomes had Brady's mechanics and footwork, he would be a better QB. Again, sweet highlights though, I know that's what matters to you guys.

And if Brady could run around evading rushers, then chuck it 40 yards off his backfoot, he'd be a better QB. It'd be a very sweet highlight, and very entertaining, which is what the NFL is - an entertainment business.

Oh I'm fully aware that they've had to dumb the game down for the average fan today. Plus fantasy football is such a huge money maker, they're catering to that crowd.

Dumb down the game?

Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

Originally posted by thl408:
Montana ran around and made one of the biggest plays in NFL history making it a dumb play back when the NFL was smart.

In fairness, that play was practiced A LOT. So it wasn't really running around.

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Trey Lance will save us from our suppressed misery of losing to the Rams in the NFC championship game.

By doing what exactly?

Originally posted by krizay:
By doing what exactly?

Being an exciting young QB with a high ceiling.