Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was watching film of other QBs and there were several slightly different motions but the one thing they weren't doing is bringing the ball down below the waist then back up again. Most looked like they dropped their arm about a foot below the shoulder and then back. Some almost went straight back from a high shoulder position. That allows for an even quicker release. Right now Trey's motion is almost circular and is way too exposed to having the ball knocked out of his hand from the backside rush. I'm guessing it adds at least a full second to his release time. It looks like something that can be corrected with work in the off season.

A full second to his release time?

Exactly how long do you think it takes him to release it then?

Yeah I LOL'd at that too.

let the kid play..HE NEEDS REPS DAMNIT...WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF JIMMY

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
A full second to his release time?

Exactly how long do you think it takes him to release it then?

Right, Talk about being dramatic lol. I love everyone in here but most people in the WZ have no clue about QB mechanics and what works or doesn't (including me overall).

Originally posted by dmax:
let the kid play..HE NEEDS REPS DAMNIT...WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF JIMMY

If Trey Lance in real life becomes anything like the Trey Lance I developed in Madden (won SB as rookie), then we're good. He did just fine under me so I have no doubt Shanny will get the best out of him.

Originally posted by Silky:
If Trey Lance in real life becomes anything like the Trey Lance I developed in Madden (won SB as rookie), then we're good. He did just fine under me so I have no doubt Shanny will get the best out of him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by dmax:
let the kid play..HE NEEDS REPS DAMNIT...WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF JIMMY

He 100% needs to start from here on out. It's his team and his time. Sink or swim and just take the lumps as they come.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
This is a pretty quick watch. Trey was obviously stiff when he first came in, as he should be, but you can clearly see him settle in and start gunning it. There may be some he could take a little off if, but for the most part that howitzer is going to put the ball in a position where either his receiver gets it or nobody does.

Interesting rewatching this without the emotions of game day. Yes he started out rough but by the end he looked pretty good. He works the pocket really well. Yes mechanics are inconsistent but he hasn't had any first team reps in practice. This makes me go back to what I said before the season, which was he needs to start. He gives us WAY more with his legs and we don't have a good enough OL to give Jimmy the time he needs to get chunk plays. Let's see what the rook can do.

Trey reminds me a lot of Kaepernick. A good runner but not special and throws the short and medium stuff with less touch and accuracy than you'd like.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Really don't know what game you were watching and seeing Trey as being 'spastic and uncomfortable' in the pocket. Aside from maybe two plays where he sensed pressure a bit early, he was very solid from a clean pocket.

This is actually incorrect. PFF rated Trey very poorly when having no pressure. He was rated very high when having pressure. The exact opposite of Jimmy, as Jimmy was one of the lowest graded passers in football when having pressure.

First bolded will improve drastically with first team practice reps and game reps.

Second bolded is why I think Trey needs to start. Jimmy thrives with a clean pocket, but our OL is just not built for nor proficient at pass blocking.

Oline played one of their worst games on sunday. Tomlinson was missing blocks all day. McG was getting beat on the edge, Brunskill and Mack are still playing like it's preseason. We had to run a ton of max protection for Trey because they couldn't create a clean pocket without the extra help.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Silky:
If Trey Lance in real life becomes anything like the Trey Lance I developed in Madden (won SB as rookie), then we're good. He did just fine under me so I have no doubt Shanny will get the best out of him.

My Madden franchise with Jimmy can't get down the field in less than like 15 effing plays. What is failkyle doing? We need a fast strike offense now.Even if he screws up here and there.

Originally posted by jcs:
Oline played one of their worst games on sunday. Tomlinson was missing blocks all day. McG was getting beat on the edge, Brunskill and Mack are still playing like it's preseason. We had to run a ton of max protection for Trey because they couldn't create a clean pocket without the extra help.

Turnstile McGlinchey was giving up pressure all day. PFF still rated him as one of our highest graded players on offense.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wilson and Mahomes do it all the time…Greg Panelli who has worked with Josh Allen for yrs, isn't worried about his throwing motion at all

QB Monday on #CrockTalkTV. @Greg_Panelli discussing Trey Lance's throwing motion and why he doesn't see anything wrong with. #49ers

Full link: https://t.co/OoQEdLOGAf pic.twitter.com/b0QU4od5kY

— Big CROCKY⚡️ (@eric_crocker) August 2, 2021

its not bad but i think he could improve upon it

Obviously he has to learn touch... but as an armchair fan the only thing I see is that he tends to drop down right before the throw. It seems like its so that he can set his feet, but it also gives away his tell and lets a DB know a split second faster where he is going with the ball. At the NFL level that split second can make all the difference.

Out side of that he just needs to work on touch. Never played QB, just defense, but as a pitcher one of the biggest things throwing hard is that missing that release by just a fraction of a second is much less forgiving than throwing other pitches. Right now I chalk that up to rookie jitters which is to be expected with someone with a cannon.

Originally posted by All22:
Trey reminds me a lot of Kaepernick. A good runner but not special and throws the short and medium stuff with less touch and accuracy than you'd like.

Careful, that analogy has been forbidden by the thought police.

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by All22:
Trey reminds me a lot of Kaepernick. A good runner but not special and throws the short and medium stuff with less touch and accuracy than you'd like.

Careful, that analogy has been forbidden by the thought police.

No, it was just covered. Ad nauseam. A few hundred pages back.