Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 9moon:CHase had an elite QB throwing to him, and yet managed only 50 more yards. Moreover, Deebo beat Chase in yards per catch, but there's a difference you Jimmy homers never quite get: Deebo averaged 10.1 RAC yards per reception. Chase was merely 8.0. And what about who does most of the work on a given catch? Chase was ranked 22nd in yards before reception. Guess where Deebo was? 51st! Deebo did MOST of the work on HIS yards, because Deebo had Garoppolo for a QB, while Chase had Joe Burrow.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I would think the guaranteed money would be more important to Deebo due to his playing style and how he is often used. So why not offer him a 5 year deal worth $20 Million a year but make it fully guaranteed? So while he can not say he is the highest paid WR, He can say he is the only WR who's entire contract is fully guaranteed and has the most guaranteed money out of any WR. So while he can't make more than $100 Million, He also can't make less than that.
Cause he's on average missing about 4 games a season, and given how he's being used now, that is more likely to go up than down.
If they are worried about him getting injured than stop using him like that. It isn't right to make him the focal point of the offense and than refuse to pay him like one.
He was injured before they ever started using him out of the backfield. That's not why he gets hurt. He plays like Kittle and runs so hard that injuries are just bound to happen.
I read the article from SI and they make a good point about Aiyuk. If Deebo gets paid big money won't Aiyuk expect the same if he has one big season. As they point out, he's more likely to be a downfield target for Lance and could easily become the number one target, especially if Deebo misses a few games.
OFTEN I post ... that YUCK is a better WR than Deevah... Deevah is a gadget and last year, he was the BEST GADGET in the NFL.. I posted 24 a year, and i fully believe that it's too much for a GADGET guy..
you all think defenses NEXT year will not figure out a GADGET ??
Nope. Because the only reason he's a "gadget" is because he's ABLE to dominate defenses at every level and from every position.
That's why I actually agree with everyone saying he should be paid for what he brings to the offense. I simply said the team would not want to guarantee him that much. If it were me, instead, I'd pay him for what he gives, but build in protections for the team if he's unable to do it. Make him the highest paid non-QB in the NFL—IF he plays and continues to play like one.
hang on there buddy.... Deevah had a very awesome year, no one will argue .. BUT, Just what EVERY position are you talking about?
When did he dominate as a WR of all the years he's been here?
JaMarr Chase as a rookie already showed better overall talent as a WR than Deebo.. and I'm pretty sure if SF trades Deebo to Cincy straight up for CHASE, many, including YOU will not argue..
Deebo's receptions per broken tackle was was 5.9, meaning he broke a tackle every 6 catches. Chase was some 20 ranks lower, with 10.1. And yeah, Deebo had some drops, but his drop rate was 8.3, which was better than Chase's drop rate of 8.7. Deebo was better than Chase last year.
The only reason someone would make that trade is because Chase will probably develop into something more. But Chase may very well end up being the best WR in the game in a couple years, so this is a ludicrous argument anyway. Your argument is that because Deebo isn't the best WR in the game he therefore didn't dominate at WR.
I GUARANTEE you Deebo was a top 10 WIDE RECEIVER this past year, probably top 5.
No, he wasn't. He had a better QB and took advantage of that. Deebo had to earn his yards in traffic because Jimmy is allergic to throwing outside and deep. And "WAYYYY" better?
some WR from the Rams who came back from a knee injury DOMINATED the league last year as a WR, he was not better than DEEBO all around, but he was WAYYYYY better than Deebo as a WR last year..
Cooper was SLIGHTLY better. You do realize that it was Deebo right behind him in yards most of the year, right? Kupp was 55th in the NFL in YAC/reception. Deebo was the number ONE WR in the NFL (4th overall behind three running backs) with almost twice as much. And Kupp had a mere 13.4 yards per reception despite not having to make a large majority of the yards himself. Deebo? Led the NFL with 18.2. This, again, with Deebo having to do a much greater share of the work post-catch than almost every other WR.
On a per catch basis, Kupp hgained 43.3 percent of the yards. Deebo? 54.9. Deebo is one of the few who actually got the majority of his yards on his own. (note: Chase got 44.4 percent of his own yards, so let that sink in).
.. and what Deebo did for us, Cordarrelle did the same for the Falcons... .. WILL YOU GIVE BOTH 24 A YEAR ??
Uh no. Patterson was not even close in production. He had a mere 7.4 YAC/R, nearly 3 behind Deebo. Moreover, he was primarily a running back. He had a mere 548 yards receiving. Hell, he only had 618 yards rushing. For comparison, Deebo had 1405 yards receiving (most of which he got on his own) and 365 yards rushing at 6.2 per carry. Patterson, by contrast, had only 4.0.
This is a ludicrous comparison. Deebo is an ELITE weapon. Patterson is a utility guy.
YOU gonna stand here and tell me DEEBO is better than CHASE?
AND if Chase benefited from having a 2ND YEAR QB ... who's fault is that??
your boy KS10 had a chance to get Brady and even Stafford but did not... wacha say to that?/
We just cannot afford to loose him. We just can't. There's just no replacing him.