Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

I'm no Himmy super fan but if we win a super bowl I'll be saying we shouldn't break up a good thing. Not the most talented QB but if he gets the job done then let's run it back.

I really don't see a scenario where they bring back Jimmy G for 2023. He's played really well the last month, but he still is not a QB that is going to will his team to victory as an off schedule playmaker, which is often needed in the playoffs, and that's the intrigue and potential with Lance.

Here's the two ways this plays out IMO, and they both lead to Jimmy being gone in 2023:

1. 49ers don't win the SB. Even if Jimmy continues to play really well, if they don't win the SB it's hard to see them sticking with him when they want to see Lance bring that extra level that will get them over the top. Pressure still there on Shanalynch, so gotta see if Lance can be that final piece, so need to get him the experience sooner rather than later.

2. 49ers win the SB. Okay, they pull it out. Guess what? That means even more patience is available for Lance since the team has made it to the top, and Lance longterm has the most potential to keep that top level for years to come, so gotta get him playing time to reach that level sooner rather than later. Less pressure on Shanalynch, so why not use that to their advantage to get Lance going?

The logical choice in either scenario is to bring the future into the present and start Lance in 2023.

Your drastically discounting the effect the super bowl winning roster will have on the decision making. Not a great message to players that your okay wasting their short time in the pros to get the unknown QB his experience when they had a QB capable of winning it all.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

I love Rich Eisen, but any football opinion that removes all analysis of a players film is not a good opinion.

Otherwise, we should pay big bucks for Joe Flacco or Nick Foles next season to be our backup.

Those two guys could possibly retire

Originally posted by captveg:
I really don't see a scenario where they bring back Jimmy G for 2023. He's played really well the last month, but he still is not a QB that is going to will his team to victory as an off schedule playmaker, which is often needed in the playoffs, and that's the intrigue and potential with Lance.

Here's the two ways this plays out IMO, and they both lead to Jimmy being gone in 2023:

1. 49ers don't win the SB. Even if Jimmy continues to play really well, if they don't win the SB it's hard to see them sticking with him when they want to see Lance bring that extra level that will get them over the top. Pressure still there on Shanalynch, so gotta see if Lance can be that final piece, so need to get him the experience sooner rather than later.

2. 49ers win the SB. Okay, they pull it out. Guess what? That means even more patience is available for Lance since the team has made it to the top, and Lance longterm has the most potential to keep that top level for years to come, so gotta get him playing time to reach that level sooner rather than later. Less pressure on Shanalynch, so why not use that to their advantage to get Lance going?

The logical choice in either scenario is to bring the future into the present and start Lance in 2023.

He got hurt start 1 year 1, start 2 year 2. TL is hard to rely on as a locked in plug and play he will give us 17 games kind of guy. Real need for another guy in the room, which may or may not be JG. Also a need for competition, if ppl are just handed stuff without earning it that makes for soft players.

saleh would probably give jimmy the bag for '23

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

jed loves kyle and will jump off a bridge if he tells him to. if kyle wants to move on then they will.

his comment had nothing to do about overriding Kyle's decision. it was speculation on the team deciding to keep JG.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
saleh would probably give jimmy the bag for '23

If Jimmy plays like this the rest of the year there's gonna be a bidding war.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Your drastically discounting the effect the super bowl winning roster will have on the decision making. Not a great message to players that your okay wasting their short time in the pros to get the unknown QB his experience when they had a QB capable of winning it all.

These guys have 100% investment in Shanalynch. They already bought in to Lance this past season without issue, and they'll be just fine doing it again this next offseason. If Kyle says Lance is their best shot in 2023 and beyond, then they'll accept that Lance is indeed that. It will be even easier to do so if they have a nice ring on their fingers to satiate them for a spell.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

I'm no Himmy super fan but if we win a super bowl I'll be saying we shouldn't break up a good thing. Not the most talented QB but if he gets the job done then let's run it back.

I really don't see a scenario where they bring back Jimmy G for 2023. He's played really well the last month, but he still is not a QB that is going to will his team to victory as an off schedule playmaker, which is often needed in the playoffs, and that's the intrigue and potential with Lance.

Here's the two ways this plays out IMO, and they both lead to Jimmy being gone in 2023:

1. 49ers don't win the SB. Even if Jimmy continues to play really well, if they don't win the SB it's hard to see them sticking with him when they want to see Lance bring that extra level that will get them over the top. Pressure still there on Shanalynch, so gotta see if Lance can be that final piece, so need to get him the experience sooner rather than later.

2. 49ers win the SB. Okay, they pull it out. Guess what? That means even more patience is available for Lance since the team has made it to the top, and Lance longterm has the most potential to keep that top level for years to come, so gotta get him playing time to reach that level sooner rather than later. Less pressure on Shanalynch, so why not use that to their advantage to get Lance going?

The logical choice in either scenario is to bring the future into the present and start Lance in 2023.

Strongly disagree with #2. Imagine the hot seat Shanalynch would be on if they won the SB, let Jimmy walk and essentially the exact same team led by Trey goes 7-10 the next year, or if Trey gets hurt... again. They don't get "less pressure" for a mistake like that. And I think they deserve a ton of criticism for even being in this position by using all the draft capital to move up for a QB that they had not even decided on yet. It was as simple as taking the best available QB from their original draft position... they weren't going to start whoever that was in his first year anyway.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He got hurt start 1 year 1, start 2 year 2. TL is hard to rely on as a locked in plug and play he will give us 17 games kind of guy. Real need for another guy in the room, which may or may not be JG. Also a need for competition, if ppl are just handed stuff without earning it that makes for soft players.

There are plenty of vets they can bring in to be the #2 at far less cost than Jimmy G.

Lance is no more at risk for injury than Jimmy or any other QB in this league. It's rare to have a starter capable backup. This year only had that scenario due to very weird circumstances.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We can win 2 superbowls with Jimmy and posters will still be asking to improve the qb position.

It makes no sense

We lost a SB with Jimmy already….

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

I'm no Himmy super fan but if we win a super bowl I'll be saying we shouldn't break up a good thing. Not the most talented QB but if he gets the job done then let's run it back.

I really don't see a scenario where they bring back Jimmy G for 2023. He's played really well the last month, but he still is not a QB that is going to will his team to victory as an off schedule playmaker, which is often needed in the playoffs, and that's the intrigue and potential with Lance.

Here's the two ways this plays out IMO, and they both lead to Jimmy being gone in 2023:

1. 49ers don't win the SB. Even if Jimmy continues to play really well, if they don't win the SB it's hard to see them sticking with him when they want to see Lance bring that extra level that will get them over the top. Pressure still there on Shanalynch, so gotta see if Lance can be that final piece, so need to get him the experience sooner rather than later.

2. 49ers win the SB. Okay, they pull it out. Guess what? That means even more patience is available for Lance since the team has made it to the top, and Lance longterm has the most potential to keep that top level for years to come, so gotta get him playing time to reach that level sooner rather than later. Less pressure on Shanalynch, so why not use that to their advantage to get Lance going?

The logical choice in either scenario is to bring the future into the present and start Lance in 2023.

Strongly disagree with #2. Imagine the hot seat Shanalynch would be on if they won the SB, let Jimmy walk and essentially the exact same team led by Trey goes 7-10 the next year, or if Trey gets hurt... again. They don't get "less pressure" for a mistake like that. And I think they deserve a ton of criticism for even being in this position by using all the draft capital to move up for a QB that they had not even decided on yet. It was as simple as taking the best available QB from their original draft position... they weren't going to start whoever that was in his first year anyway.

They have to see if Lance is the generational talent they expect him to be. You can only kick that can down the road so long. They locked themselves into that path when they made the trade. Winning the SB this year gives them at least another five years to do whatever the hell they want. That hot seat will be ice cold no matter what happens in 2023 under Lance if they are coming off a SB win this year. Can't hold onto Jimmy G because they fear the result with Lance. Fear is the mind killer.

Some Chiefs fans feared moving on from the very good Alex Smith for the unknown in Patrick Mahomes. If you want to find out how good that young potential high ceiling QB is, sometimes you gotta set aside the known and roll the dice.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We can win 2 superbowls with Jimmy and posters will still be asking to improve the qb position.

It makes no sense

We lost a SB with Jimmy already….

What does that mean for Joe Burrow?

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

I'm no Himmy super fan but if we win a super bowl I'll be saying we shouldn't break up a good thing. Not the most talented QB but if he gets the job done then let's run it back.

I really don't see a scenario where they bring back Jimmy G for 2023. He's played really well the last month, but he still is not a QB that is going to will his team to victory as an off schedule playmaker, which is often needed in the playoffs, and that's the intrigue and potential with Lance.

Here's the two ways this plays out IMO, and they both lead to Jimmy being gone in 2023:

1. 49ers don't win the SB. Even if Jimmy continues to play really well, if they don't win the SB it's hard to see them sticking with him when they want to see Lance bring that extra level that will get them over the top. Pressure still there on Shanalynch, so gotta see if Lance can be that final piece, so need to get him the experience sooner rather than later.

2. 49ers win the SB. Okay, they pull it out. Guess what? That means even more patience is available for Lance since the team has made it to the top, and Lance longterm has the most potential to keep that top level for years to come, so gotta get him playing time to reach that level sooner rather than later. Less pressure on Shanalynch, so why not use that to their advantage to get Lance going?

The logical choice in either scenario is to bring the future into the present and start Lance in 2023.

Strongly disagree with #2. Imagine the hot seat Shanalynch would be on if they won the SB, let Jimmy walk and essentially the exact same team led by Trey goes 7-10 the next year, or if Trey gets hurt... again. They don't get "less pressure" for a mistake like that. And I think they deserve a ton of criticism for even being in this position by using all the draft capital to move up for a QB that they had not even decided on yet. It was as simple as taking the best available QB from their original draft position... they weren't going to start whoever that was in his first year anyway.

They have to see if Lance is the generational talent they expect him to be. You can only kick that can down the road so long. They locked themselves into that path when they made the trade. Winning the SB this year gives them at least another five years to do whatever the hell they want. That hot seat will be ice cold no matter what happens in 2023 under Lance if they are coming off a SB win this year. Can't hold onto Jimmy G because they fear the result with Lance. Fear is the mind killer.

My man I get what you're saying. But I'm a fan of this team to see super bowl wins and I honestly couldn't care less if we wasted 3 firsts on Lance by just winning with Jimmy G.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We can win 2 superbowls with Jimmy and posters will still be asking to improve the qb position.

It makes no sense

We lost a SB with Jimmy already….

What does that mean for Joe Burrow?

The world is his

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We can win 2 superbowls with Jimmy and posters will still be asking to improve the qb position.

It makes no sense

Announcer: "49ers are the 2022 Super Bowl champions!"

WZ: "hell yeah, we're getting a 3rd round pick! Zero chance he's back next year"