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  • dj43
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The speculation about Jimmy going to the Jets while Wilson learns how to play at an NFL level is interesting. I don't see Jimmy going there. The Jets are going to give Wilson another year before they pull the plug on him. For Jimmy to go there is not improving his chances to play one bit.

I will just put this out there: the best move for Garoppolo and the team is to stay in SF until someone beats him out of the job. Forget all that talk about not being able to sign this guy or that guy. There will be a big cap jump next year and Marathe is a genius at using the cap to gain a particular result. QB is the most important position on the team. Hence, you spend money there and fit the rest of the team around it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah but I'm told Rich sucks and doesn't know football lol. Jimmy is playing good ball right now.

say that without grinding your teeth though
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.

  • okdkid
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Originally posted by dj43:
The speculation about Jimmy going to the Jets while Wilson learns how to play at an NFL level is interesting. I don't see Jimmy going there. The Jets are going to give Wilson another year before they pull the plug on him. For Jimmy to go there is not improving his chances to play one bit.

I will just put this out there: the best move for Garoppolo and the team is to stay in SF until someone beats him out of the job. Forget all that talk about not being able to sign this guy or that guy. There will be a big cap jump next year and Marathe is a genius at using the cap to gain a particular result. QB is the most important position on the team. Hence, you spend money there and fit the rest of the team around it.

I think they'd move on from Wilson if they land Garoppolo. But not before. Garoppolo is going to have a market. He clearly will be the most sought after FA QB. And Saleh won't get him unless Jimmy is the guy. Jimmy doesn't have to pretend like he needs to compete for a starting gig with another franchise. He'll be the guy.
[ Edited by okdkid on Nov 23, 2022 at 10:58 AM ]
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua
Originally posted by okdkid:
I think they'd move on from Wilson if they land Garoppolo. But not before. Garoppolo is going to have a market. He clearly will be the most sought after FA QB. And Saleh won't get him unless Jimmy is the guy. Jimmy doesn't have to pretend like he needs to compete for a starting gig with another franchise. He'll be the guy.

We gotta pump the brakes on this stuff I saw the same posts a year ago at this time.. it's like we don't learn from history / the past.. one game at a time ppl
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Oh....my.....lord. Did you just say Kyle shouldn't/wouldn't have immense game-planning if we had, say, Josh Allen?

No. That's not what I said. My comments were on the abilities of Josh Allen compared to Jimmy G.

You can literally gameplan around Josh Allen's talents. He's the kind of QB that's developing into a player you can ask to go win you the game. Carry the load.

With Jimmy....you give him everything and you generally ask him to get the ball to his playmakers and not f**k up.

Another failed spin, btw.

These are 2 players that are just in completely different categories. If you have some ideas on Kyle's gameplanning abilities you should share them with NC.

No, you really did say, but it was cut out, "when immense game-planning isn't necessary". There's no, 'spin' to it. You're saying you don't have to set up each play and the big shots perfectly. Nice attempt to walk it back though.

You didn't see the game-plan being pass-heavy? The past number of times we've faced Vance Joseph he's gone to a 6 man-front to contain the wide-zone. In 2019 Kyle abandoned the run early and Jimmy threw for over 700 yards in 2 games. This game, Kittle talked about how they saw ARI come out in a 6 man-front again and that's why they called 21 passes to 7 runs in the first half and then 7 passes to 28 runs in the 2nd half.

The gameplan was, if ARI came out in a 6 man-front, we were going to pass the ball. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative.
they stacked the box, and we did just that. Kyle called like 10+ passing plays in a row or something at one point.

I heard reports time and time again that the plan was to shut down the run and make Jimmy G beat them.

he did just that.

Lets see how that works with playoff defenses. Luckily we have some good teams coming up on the schedule to gauge this.

yeah, it's going to be testing the team in many areas during these next several games. Saints could be tricky given the turn around time after all the travel and short week. thankfully they're at home for a while.
19 & 21 the offense as decent but never ran smoothly as of current. If we can keep the rhythm from now till then.. I think Jimmy will have a great post season.

si siente bien, Bebe !

for sure. has to stay healthy too
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua

Joking, of course. Thought the would give that away
  • dj43
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by dj43:
The speculation about Jimmy going to the Jets while Wilson learns how to play at an NFL level is interesting. I don't see Jimmy going there. The Jets are going to give Wilson another year before they pull the plug on him. For Jimmy to go there is not improving his chances to play one bit.

I will just put this out there: the best move for Garoppolo and the team is to stay in SF until someone beats him out of the job. Forget all that talk about not being able to sign this guy or that guy. There will be a big cap jump next year and Marathe is a genius at using the cap to gain a particular result. QB is the most important position on the team. Hence, you spend money there and fit the rest of the team around it.

I think they'd move on from Wilson if they land Garoppolo. But not before. Garoppolo is going to have a market. He clearly will be the most sought after FA QB. And Saleh won't get him unless Jimmy is the guy. Jimmy doesn't have to pretend like he needs to compete for a starting gig with another franchise. He'll be the guy.

The reason I don't think the Jets would make that move is the same reason the 49ers might force Jimmy to leave while turning over the keys to Lance: they are too invested in draft capital at this point to admit they made a mistake. To that point, neither side has seen enough of their draft pick to make a major jump to another option. It is a catch-22 for both sides.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by dj43:
The speculation about Jimmy going to the Jets while Wilson learns how to play at an NFL level is interesting. I don't see Jimmy going there. The Jets are going to give Wilson another year before they pull the plug on him. For Jimmy to go there is not improving his chances to play one bit.

I will just put this out there: the best move for Garoppolo and the team is to stay in SF until someone beats him out of the job. Forget all that talk about not being able to sign this guy or that guy. There will be a big cap jump next year and Marathe is a genius at using the cap to gain a particular result. QB is the most important position on the team. Hence, you spend money there and fit the rest of the team around it.

I think they'd move on from Wilson if they land Garoppolo. But not before. Garoppolo is going to have a market. He clearly will be the most sought after FA QB. And Saleh won't get him unless Jimmy is the guy. Jimmy doesn't have to pretend like he needs to compete for a starting gig with another franchise. He'll be the guy.

The reason I don't think the Jets would make that move is the same reason the 49ers might force Jimmy to leave while turning over the keys to Lance: they are too invested in draft capital at this point to admit they made a mistake. To that point, neither side has seen enough of their draft pick to make a major jump to another option. It is a catch-22 for both sides.

I truly believe that the 49ers feel a lot better about Lance than the Jets feel about Wilson, and that these opinions of resigning Jimmy would seem ridiculous had Trey not been injured.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua

This seems like a combination of last year with this year. Im still waiting for Jimmy G to Jimmy G it up but he has outplayed at least a 3rd of those QBs on that list this year. Now talent-wise, I get it. But you failed to expand on your rankings and the deciding factors. For example Jackson has a 16/7 TD/Int ratio, Jimmy 15/4 with more yards and a higher completion percentage.Now Jackson can run the balls off a horse but just saying as a passer, he is beating a few players on this list... but so is Geno Smith lol. Preconceptions are a thing.

I'm still holding my breath everytime he drops back and throws it past 10 yards but the man should get his due. Last time he played this well was against the saints in 2019, take it for what its worth. But in this season, he's doing his job.
[ Edited by TheRickestRick on Nov 23, 2022 at 11:16 AM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah but I'm told Rich sucks and doesn't know football lol. Jimmy is playing good ball right now.

say that without grinding your teeth though

Say what? Jimmy is playing good ball right now? I've said that through out Jimmy's career a ton of different times…not sure why people have to either love or hate him…then try to call out other poster as if they can only have one stance?
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 23, 2022 at 11:16 AM ]
  • okdkid
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua

This is not a 2022 list. Rodgers? Brady? Sure. Three years ago. This is a social media list. Not a list of the best performing QBs in 2022.
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua

This seems like a combination of last year with this year. Im still waiting for Jimmy G to Jimmy G it up but he has outplayed at least a 3rd of those QBs on that list this year. Now talent-wise, I get it. But you failed to expand on your rankings and the deciding factors. For example Jackson has a 16/7 TD/Int ratio, Jimmy 15/4 with more yards and a higher completion percentage.Now Jackson can run the balls off a horse but just saying as a passer, he is beating a few players on this list... but so is Geno Smith lol. Preconceptions are a thing.

I'm still holding my breath everytime he drops back and throws it past 10 yards but the man should get his due. Last time he played this well was against the saints in 2019, take it for what its worth. But in this season, he's doing his job.

Yeah I'm for sure giving credit for previous success. Unless people wanna say Geno Smith is a top 5 QB in the league.
[ Edited by Hysterikal on Nov 23, 2022 at 11:19 AM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by okdkid:
15-4 TD to Int ratio, top 10 in most relevant QB metrics and people still hating. Goes to show that people are irrational and will not alter a viewpoint in the presence of new information.

"hE iS wHo He iS"

Yeah a dope top 10 QB in 2022.

Brain. Plasticity.


1.Josh Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Lamar
4. Joe Cool
5. Herbert
6. Hurts
7. Rodgers
8. Brady
9. Prescott
10. Tua

This seems like a combination of last year with this year. Im still waiting for Jimmy G to Jimmy G it up but he has outplayed at least a 3rd of those QBs on that list this year. Now talent-wise, I get it. But you failed to expand on your rankings and the deciding factors. For example Jackson has a 16/7 TD/Int ratio, Jimmy 15/4 with more yards and a higher completion percentage.Now Jackson can run the balls off a horse but just saying as a passer, he is beating a few players on this list... but so is Geno Smith lol. Preconceptions are a thing.

I'm still holding my breath everytime he drops back and throws it past 10 yards but the man should get his due. Last time he played this well was against the saints in 2019, take it for what its worth. But in this season, he's doing his job.

Yeah I'm for sure holding giving credit for previous success. Unless people wanna say Geno Smith is a top 5 QB in the league.

According to Furlow, Geno Smith is better than Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow. Passer rating FTW!
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