QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 489

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Oct 4, 2018 at 9:41 AM

#7321

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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Niners99:
"How did Beathard deal with not always knowing what he just called in a huddle as a rookie last season?

"You just kind of try and put some of the key words together," Beathard explained. "'Ok, I know this guy, he's got an out route. Hopefully, he gets open.'"

Fantastic...

Good to know young QB's dont even know what the heck is going on, and are just praying the one route they remember gets open.

This is why you can't listen to the ignorant individuals who are oblivious to a lot of factors affecting one's play and call a player garbage in his rookie season, despite statistically outperforming many of the other top quarterbacks in the league by comparison to their rookies years. Not to mention doing so while trying to operate what is widely known as the most complicated scheme in the NFL and do it with an incredibly weak supporting cast missing linemen and receivers.

Are you talking about me? I never said Beathard was garbage. Its just discouraging to know that young QB's are literally calling plays that they hardly even remember, and are basically guessing on. No wonder guys look totally lost. He thinks he remembered one guy had an out route, so he was just going to look at that read and pray he got open. Meanwhile were all watching these games thinking our players are totally prepared.

No, no not at all. There were people out there calling Beathard trash in spite of what many would consider not that bad of a rookie season considering the circumstances. They wrote him off before he even had a chance to show what he could do with a year of learning and growing, and those are the people I'm referencing, the ones who don't take any other facts into consideration and make downright silly conclusions about players. Conclusions that are unwarranted, untrue, and based off emotion instead of a combination of ALL facts and reason/logic.

Oct 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM

#7322

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Niners99:
"How did Beathard deal with not always knowing what he just called in a huddle as a rookie last season?

"You just kind of try and put some of the key words together," Beathard explained. "'Ok, I know this guy, he's got an out route. Hopefully, he gets open.'"

Fantastic...

Good to know young QB's dont even know what the heck is going on, and are just praying the one route they remember gets open.

This is why you can't listen to the ignorant individuals who are oblivious to a lot of factors affecting one's play and call a player garbage in his rookie season, despite statistically outperforming many of the other top quarterbacks in the league by comparison to their rookies years. Not to mention doing so while trying to operate what is widely known as the most complicated scheme in the NFL and do it with an incredibly weak supporting cast missing linemen and receivers.

Are you talking about me? I never said Beathard was garbage. Its just discouraging to know that young QB's are literally calling plays that they hardly even remember, and are basically guessing on. No wonder guys look totally lost. He thinks he remembered one guy had an out route, so he was just going to look at that read and pray he got open. Meanwhile were all watching these games thinking our players are totally prepared.

No, no not at all. There were people out there calling Beathard trash in spite of what many would consider not that bad of a rookie season considering the circumstances. They wrote him off before he even had a chance to show what he could do with a year of learning and growing, and those are the people I'm referencing, the ones who don't take any other facts into consideration and make downright silly conclusions about players. Conclusions that are unwarranted, untrue, and based off emotion instead of a combination of ALL facts and reason/logic.

Spot on brotha. If nothing else, CJ has proven to be a more than capable backup which is exactly what we signed him for. Don't know why so many complain about that. Dude still stands tall in the pocket and takes the punishment after everything that happened to him last season as a rookie. That stuff ruins careers ala Gabbert and Carr most recently, guys get happy feet and skittish at any sign of pressure after taking that kind of punishment. Not CJ, kid shows no fear and gets nothing but respect from me. Can't coach that

Oct 4, 2018 at 12:10 PM

#7323

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I like what a saw last week from 2$ Steak! Let's hope he can keep it up!

Oct 4, 2018 at 12:28 PM

#7324

qnnhan7
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No Staley. No McG.

CJ may not survive much longer. All the injuries seemed worse than last year

Oct 4, 2018 at 12:49 PM

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SANTA CLARA – Four of the next six weeks, the 49ers will be featured on prime time, available to national television audiences.
The potential star power of Jimmy Garoppolo will not be on display, as Garoppolo underwent season-ending surgery this week to repair a torn ACL in his left knee.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that NFL officials would like the 49ers to trade for Philadelphia Eagles backup quarterback Nick Foles in order to draw better TV ratings. The 49ers' first prime time game is scheduled for Week 6 in Green Bay on "Monday Night Football." The 49ers then face the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday night in Week 7, the Raiders in Week 9 on Thursday night, and the New York Giants in Week 10 on Monday night.

This is from an article in the newsfeed. Pretty outrageous if it is true. The idea of the league having any say at all over who should play where so that their ratings don't drop would certainly signal the beginning of the end. Might as well just give all the players knifes and rename it the Hunger Games

Oct 4, 2018 at 12:56 PM

#7326

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If he can't beat the Cards, I'm not jumping on his wagon. Still skeptical about his play.

Oct 4, 2018 at 12:57 PM

#7327

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Originally posted by 49ers81:
SANTA CLARA – Four of the next six weeks, the 49ers will be featured on prime time, available to national television audiences.
The potential star power of Jimmy Garoppolo will not be on display, as Garoppolo underwent season-ending surgery this week to repair a torn ACL in his left knee.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that NFL officials would like the 49ers to trade for Philadelphia Eagles backup quarterback Nick Foles in order to draw better TV ratings. The 49ers' first prime time game is scheduled for Week 6 in Green Bay on "Monday Night Football." The 49ers then face the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday night in Week 7, the Raiders in Week 9 on Thursday night, and the New York Giants in Week 10 on Monday night.

This is from an article in the newsfeed. Pretty outrageous if it is true. The idea of the league having any say at all over who should play where so that their ratings don't drop would certainly signal the beginning of the end. Might as well just give all the players knifes and rename it the Hunger Games

Ratings go through the roof if the game announcers start calling Beathard —Beat Hard. The power of splitting his name is like the power unleashed splitting atoms

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM ]

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:06 PM

#7328

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Originally posted by 49ers81:
SANTA CLARA – Four of the next six weeks, the 49ers will be featured on prime time, available to national television audiences.
The potential star power of Jimmy Garoppolo will not be on display, as Garoppolo underwent season-ending surgery this week to repair a torn ACL in his left knee.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that NFL officials would like the 49ers to trade for Philadelphia Eagles backup quarterback Nick Foles in order to draw better TV ratings. The 49ers' first prime time game is scheduled for Week 6 in Green Bay on "Monday Night Football." The 49ers then face the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday night in Week 7, the Raiders in Week 9 on Thursday night, and the New York Giants in Week 10 on Monday night.

This is from an article in the newsfeed. Pretty outrageous if it is true. The idea of the league having any say at all over who should play where so that their ratings don't drop would certainly signal the beginning of the end. Might as well just give all the players knifes and rename it the Hunger Games

If CJ starts winning they won't be complaining.

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:10 PM

#7329

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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
SANTA CLARA – Four of the next six weeks, the 49ers will be featured on prime time, available to national television audiences.
The potential star power of Jimmy Garoppolo will not be on display, as Garoppolo underwent season-ending surgery this week to repair a torn ACL in his left knee.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that NFL officials would like the 49ers to trade for Philadelphia Eagles backup quarterback Nick Foles in order to draw better TV ratings. The 49ers' first prime time game is scheduled for Week 6 in Green Bay on "Monday Night Football." The 49ers then face the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday night in Week 7, the Raiders in Week 9 on Thursday night, and the New York Giants in Week 10 on Monday night.

This is from an article in the newsfeed. Pretty outrageous if it is true. The idea of the league having any say at all over who should play where so that their ratings don't drop would certainly signal the beginning of the end. Might as well just give all the players knifes and rename it the Hunger Games

If CJ starts winning they won't be complaining.

This. As long as the games are close and entertaining people will watch. And like you said if CJ doea something crazy like winning in GB they won't have any issues.

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:17 PM

#7330

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NFL officials would like 49ers to trade for Foles, lol.

Fake news is real.

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:18 PM

#7331

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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
NFL officials would like 49ers to trade for Foles, lol.

Fake news is real.

Lol. Nfl trying to help us out?

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:24 PM

#7332

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
NFL officials would like 49ers to trade for Foles, lol.

Fake news is real.

Lol. Nfl trying to help us out?

Can you imagine the repercussion if it were to actually happen? So much credibility would be lost. It's totally fake news.

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:34 PM

#7333

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Originally posted by niners94:
If he can't beat the Cards, I'm not jumping on his wagon. Still skeptical about his play.

Yeah me too. I guess I saw a different game than those who are all the sudden high on Beathard. He played a 23 ranked D and turned the ball over 3 times.

Oct 4, 2018 at 1:46 PM

#7334

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Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by niners94:
If he can't beat the Cards, I'm not jumping on his wagon. Still skeptical about his play.

Yeah me too. I guess I saw a different game than those who are all the sudden high on Beathard. He played a 23 ranked D and turned the ball over 3 times.

Three times? Beathard was only actually responsible for one turnover. And their pass defense was better than that going in from what I recall, despite playing the Chiefs and Rams who have the #8 and #1 offenses in the NFL respectively. Their defense isn't a bottom feeder unit.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM ]

Oct 4, 2018 at 2:06 PM

#7335

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Originally posted by Antix:
This. As long as the games are close and entertaining people will watch. And like you said if CJ doea something crazy like winning in GB they won't have any issues.

Even if CJ puts on enough of a prime time show and beats the Packers, there will be people that complain we didn't line him up at Edge and have him sack Rodgers 3 times.