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Jan 15, 2018 at 7:21 AM
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Originally posted by walker807:
Originally posted by 4912:
Is this dude even going to be able to contribute coming off his injury? I mean is he going to be better than Bowman was?

I'm not sure I'd stick a bunch of stock in Malcom Smith.

We should definitely try to bring in another starter.

Can't really compare the 2. Smith is coming off a pretty standard upper body injury with a full year to recover since it happened in TC. Bowman suffered one of the worst knee injuries ever and followed that up with a ruptured achellis. I expect Smith will be a full recovery.

Yes totally agree that they are completely different injuries as far as being able to recover from.

I meant as far as his effectiveness in the Defense. If MS can come back healthy and play at his 2015 level and if Foster can stay healthy and out not suspended and if we can some how land Raquan Smith, then SNAP we will be in business!!!!
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:07 AM
Do we really need Roquan though? M. Smith and Foster are two of our starting LB's, does Roquan play the other spot, or does he play what Foster or Malcolm play?
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Do we really need Roquan though? M. Smith and Foster are two of our starting LB's, does Roquan play the other spot, or does he play what Foster or Malcolm play?

I think there has been talk of Roquan at WILL, Foster at MIKE and some talk of Malcolm at SAM (although I'd like to hear Hero's thoughts on this move).

That would be a s**tload of speed.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 15, 2018 at 8:16 AM ]
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Do we really need Roquan though? M. Smith and Foster are two of our starting LB's, does Roquan play the other spot, or does he play what Foster or Malcolm play?

Don't need Roquan imo. Smith and Foster can both probably play Will or Mike, but neither of them is a Sam.

Roquan is strictly a Will. Some may disagree, but dude is undersized and not all that physical.
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:24 AM
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Do we really need Roquan though? M. Smith and Foster are two of our starting LB's, does Roquan play the other spot, or does he play what Foster or Malcolm play?

I agree ... a lock down corner, edge rusher is a much bigger need for the 1st rd pick.
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:25 AM
If all three were good "fits" for those spots, then I would be total game for that. Speed kills, and having that in our LB core would be huge. Foster needs to get his you know what together, and stop making these stupid mistakes. Perhaps management needs to show him some film on the life of Alson Smith. How he was awesome early, but couldn't stop making stupid mistakes, and has cost him tens of millions due to it. Also Aldon hasn't played in 2 years now, and who knows if and when his suspension will be taken off?
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:06 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think there has been talk of Roquan at WILL, Foster at MIKE and some talk of Malcolm at SAM (although I'd like to hear Hero's thoughts on this move).

That would be a s**tload of speed.

I'm not sure Malcolm is a SAM. The SAM's main responsibility is setting the edge and covering the flats. It's an absolute must that the SAM is able to set the edge. Im not sure Malcolm is stout enough for that.

I'd love for us to squire Bruce Irvin for SAM and if we don't then draft Tremaine Edmunds.

I think Malcolm can be a great WILL. He knows the system and like Brock Coyle did, can make sure everyone is in the proper positions.

I'd also be going after Micah Kiser for MLB in the 3rd as insurance for the meat-head
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:14 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think there has been talk of Roquan at WILL, Foster at MIKE and some talk of Malcolm at SAM (although I'd like to hear Hero's thoughts on this move).

That would be a s**tload of speed.

Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 15, 2018 at 9:19 AM ]
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:15 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
The good news is it was an upper body injury so he probably hasn't lost any speed.

Exactly. I think Smith will be a solid player for us. Almost like having a coach out there to as he is a very smart, savvy veteran who knows this system inside-out
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:36 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:38 AM
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Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.



Jan 15, 2018 at 10:06 AM
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.

I can live with this until we get a real 3-down LEO.
Jan 15, 2018 at 10:08 AM
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.

I think we can expect Saleh to do something like that here. With four big guys up front, and rotational depth behind them, you don't need 250 pounds LBs to stop the run game. Speed and quickness to deal with David Johnson and Todd Gurley is what we will need for the next 5 years.
Jan 15, 2018 at 10:13 AM
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.

Except we don't have guys like Campbell (AA is trash and will be lucky to make the team as a backup) Day is not a NT. and we don't have a speed rusher like Ngakoue. We really don't have anything close to Jax DL.
[ Edited by TheHYDE49er on Jan 15, 2018 at 10:13 AM ]
Jan 15, 2018 at 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey NC, did you happen to catch yesterdays JAX game?

I just realized that JAX adjusted their scheme to accommodate the three talented LBs they've got, and play 3 off-ball LBs in base. They appear to run an over front as their base alignment. Their "big personnel", as you like to say , protects those three smaller(but hyper-athletic) LBs.

Saleh could do that if they drafted Roquan. Otherwise, Malcolm Smith can play with his thumbs on the bench.

We have the personnel to run a big front like JAK.

5T- Solomon Thomas
NT- Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Arik Armstead

SAM- Malcolm Smith
MIKE- Reuben Foster
WILL- Roquan Smith

Those 3 linebackers flying around would be unreal.

Except we don't have guys like Campbell (AA is trash and will be lucky to make the team as a backup) Day is not a NT. and we don't have a speed rusher like Ngakoue. We really don't have anything close to Jax DL.

We don't have anything close to their depth and quality of edge rushers. But Buckner, Thomas and Day is a great start with the interior pass rush.
[ Edited by Hopper on Jan 15, 2018 at 10:29 AM ]
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