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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by jvangeystel:
Does Hoyer get no credit for being in Seattle. It's like everyone forgot how good Seattle's defense is, especially in Seattle. Jesus give the man more than two games before you call for his head.

99 yards passing yesterday and no TDs in 8 qts. Yeah he gets no credit... Team would be more productive with just about anyone else right now on offense.

If Hoyer continues to be the QB, then he needs to start taking chances. Have that "gun-slinger" type of mentality.
Fans have no patience to let players fight through difficulties, that's for sure.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Fans have no patience to let players fight through difficulties, that's for sure.

ineptness is a bit different than difficulties
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
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Originally posted by NCommand:
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).

I know that's twice he's thrown picks to the middle LB. Honestly we might see Beathard sooner than we think if Hoyer keeps this rookie-like mistakes up.
Originally posted by NCommand:
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
against two great ILBs
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
against two great ILBs

You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Whaaaat? Noooo. Hoyer will do his job. Be the punching bag until we get some cohesion and beef up front. Beathard not starting nuthin until thats underway.


After next years draft. Oh, and well win more games with hoyer than our last two years combined.

Stop webzonin, like hoyer is messing up a playoff caliber machine. GMAB.

This has nothing to do with being playoff caliber,if Tim Rattay was our QB yesterday, were winning that game,and Shanahan/team gets a huge confidence builder going forward. Hoyer had one of the worst performances out of a 49ers QB since the post-Garcia era, and we've been Cleveland Browns worthy in that department

Kaepernick in 2013 when he was supposedly a "good" passer:

Vs Seattle- 46% completion rate, 4.5 yards per attempt, 127 yards passing, 0 TD's 3 ints for a rating of 20.1

Vs Colts- 48% completion rate, 5.6 YPA 0 TD, 1 int for a rating of 49.9


Vs Panthers- 50% completion rate, 91 yards, 4.1 YPA, 0 TD, 1 int, 42.0 rating.


2014 Vs Seattle- 55.2 completion rate, 121 yards, 4.2 YPA, 0 TD, 2 int at a 36.7 rating


2015 vs Cardnals- 47.4 completion rate, 67 yards, 3.5 YPA, 0 TD, 4 ints for a rating of 16.7

Vs Bears- 20% completion rate, 4 yards passing, .8 YPA, 0 TD, 0 int, 29 rating.

There was a host of games under 200 yards passing but these games above were some of the worst.

We would be no better with Rattay, Kaepernick or any other crappy QB (with most of the guys learning a new offense vs some of the best defenses in the NFL.)

Hoyer isn't our future. He will play better as the season moves on. By the end of the year he will have served his purpose which is to install the new offense. Get the o-line, WR's,TE's and RB's familiar with the new system then we take stock of what we have and draft needs. We also use free agency to address needs.

There will be a lot of needs on offense in the 2018 draft and free agency. QB being one of them. Same with WR, gaurd and perhaps center. There's going to be a lot of new faces on offense in 2018.

We have invested a lot on defense so it's very important our defense does better this year. We seem to be on that path. There's a 99% chance we'll have a different QB in 2018 along with a new WR opposite Garcon and new guys blocking up front.

The good news is our defense is on the right path. Offense will come along when we get better players. This is a total rebuild which you simply can't do in one year.
Dude holds on to the ball for way too long. Some of these sacks are completely on him.

Needs to learn that it's ok to throw it away sometimes.
We gotta use hoyer this yr to secure that high pick. Sucks but it is what it is
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Originally posted by crabman82:
We gotta use hoyer this yr to secure that high pick. Sucks but it is what it is

wonder if 49er all the time will call you out for that stuff
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
against two great ILBs

You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.

We face another great defense this Thurs.
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Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?

This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
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Originally posted by crabman82:
We gotta use hoyer this yr to secure that high pick. Sucks but it is what it is



Stay the course!!!
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Dude holds on to the ball for way too long. Some of these sacks are completely on him.

Needs to learn that it's ok to throw it away sometimes.

And when he did, he got an intentional grounding...LOL
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