Originally posted by Cisco0623:before the game ,. some told us seattle does not have a great defense anymore... now they do. confusing
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:against two great ILBs
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
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Sep 18, 2017 at 9:27 AM
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Sep 18, 2017 at 9:29 AM
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Originally posted by kray28:
Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?
This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
be careful, you will be called sour or a troll , even last year with gabbert and chip they managed to score points...i am sure this will raise alot of hackles. but it is what it is. they should sign cousins and use that number one overall pick to get a bonafide wide out.. if they even can spot one
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:30 AM
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Originally posted by kray28:
Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?
This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
Wait............ I thought last years team was the worst team & are u trying to say that Trent Baalke is still running the show? Last time i checked the talent we got in this years draft thus far has been pretty darn good. What am i missing here?
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:31 AM
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Originally posted by pelos21:giving hoyer the coach and the overall putrid offense a pass simply by saying we are facing good defenses is denial and deflection in my opinion
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:against two great ILBs
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
We face another great defense this Thurs.
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:34 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:what kind of sorry response is this ? you take a crazy response and try to turn it into a fact
Originally posted by Cisco0623:before the game ,. some told us seattle does not have a great defense anymore... now they do. confusing
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:against two great ILBs
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
14 pt underdogs this week. Vegas wasn't expecting our Defense to show up
+Packers only scored off turnovers deep in Seattle territory and couldn't move the ball all game last week.
Seattle Defense can carry that team still
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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Reading this thread always makes me go to the Draft War Room forum.
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:before the game ,. some told us seattle does not have a great defense anymore... now they do. confusingOriginally posted by Cisco0623:Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:against two great ILBsOriginally posted by NCommand:The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
What dumbass said THAT? Show me...
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Sep 18, 2017 at 9:37 AM
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Hoyer is a backup QB, no point in getting mad at a backup qb playing like a backup QB.
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:37 AM
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LK
Last year was bad, this year is worse. Baalke's fingerprints are still all over the place. It will take years to remove the stench. Still, the new regime has already had one offseason to try to improve things....but have clearly gone in the opposite direction.
The 49ers are right now easily the worst team in the NFL (the Lambs might be worse, but even their s**tty offense can score TDs sometimes).
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by kray28:
Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?
This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
Wait............ I thought last years team was the worst team & are u trying to say that Trent Baalke is still running the show? Last time i checked the talent we got in this years draft thus far has been pretty darn good. What am i missing here?
Last year was bad, this year is worse. Baalke's fingerprints are still all over the place. It will take years to remove the stench. Still, the new regime has already had one offseason to try to improve things....but have clearly gone in the opposite direction.
The 49ers are right now easily the worst team in the NFL (the Lambs might be worse, but even their s**tty offense can score TDs sometimes).
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:i wonder what else someone can tell CC, so gullible
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:before the game ,. some told us seattle does not have a great defense anymore... now they do. confusing
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:against two great ILBs
The two things that concern me the most about Hoyer is his inability to recognize the backside blitz (which almost ended his season) and making the same mistake over the middle (2 INT's and near a 3rd).
You hit the nail on the head there, great point. While he ins't great he should improve for us. The o-line played much better thank god. We did face two top defenses tho.
What dumbass said THAT? Show me...
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Sep 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Fans have no patience to let players fight through difficulties, that's for sure.
Yep. First two games vs tough defenses. He's a journeyman QB but he's definitely capable of playing well, just like he did with the Bears last year. The schedule gets easier and I expect the offense to look better. The first year of Shanahan installing his offense is going to look ugly.
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:40 AM
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Good example of how terrible this team is. They somehow manage to get a 2nd and 1, and can't get one friggin yard in 2 tries. Both downs are off target/terrible passes by Hoyer.
Why are you passing on 2nd and 1? Is the running game that pathetic?
Why are you passing on 2nd and 1? Is the running game that pathetic?
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:41 AM
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Originally posted by kray28:
LK
Last year was bad, this year is worse. Baalke's fingerprints are still all over the place. It will take years to remove the stench. Still, the new regime has already had one offseason to try to improve things....but have clearly gone in the opposite direction.
The 49ers are right now easily the worst team in the NFL (the Lambs might be worse, but even their s**tty offense can score TDs sometimes).
Ridiculous statement for multiple reasons. How can you make any kind of judgement after only two weeks? You need at least a quarter of the season and maybe more. And even if you judge on only two weeks you are wrong (imo).
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:44 AM
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Originally posted by kray28:
LK
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by kray28:
Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?
This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
Wait............ I thought last years team was the worst team & are u trying to say that Trent Baalke is still running the show? Last time i checked the talent we got in this years draft thus far has been pretty darn good. What am i missing here?
Last year was bad, this year is worse. Baalke's fingerprints are still all over the place. It will take years to remove the stench. Still, the new regime has already had one offseason to try to improve things....but have clearly gone in the opposite direction.
The 49ers are right now easily the worst team in the NFL (the Lambs might be worse, but even their s**tty offense can score TDs sometimes).
You do know Rome wasnt build in 1 day right? This team was trash from top to bottom u have to start somewhere, U dont see a vastly improved defense? If not u need to go see an optometrist u might need glasses. Its a start the defense was horrendous last year & now its starting to look like something that will be a cornerstone for years to come, yeah the offense isn't were it is is suppose to be but like i said u cant do everything in 1 offseason. Ohh & u should wait till the Season is actually over b4 u start ur overreacting rants. Who's to say the offense wont improve by years end
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:45 AM
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Originally posted by kray28:
LK
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by kray28:
Hoyer is a clown. Yes, he will help tank for the pick. But what's the point when the talent evaluation is terrible and they'll blow the top pick?
This team right now is the worst the Niners have ever been in my 30 years of watching the team.
Wait............ I thought last years team was the worst team & are u trying to say that Trent Baalke is still running the show? Last time i checked the talent we got in this years draft thus far has been pretty darn good. What am i missing here?
Last year was bad, this year is worse. Baalke's fingerprints are still all over the place. It will take years to remove the stench. Still, the new regime has already had one offseason to try to improve things....but have clearly gone in the opposite direction.
The 49ers are right now easily the worst team in the NFL (the Lambs might be worse, but even their s**tty offense can score TDs sometimes).
Dude. Relax.
What exactly is it you were expecting at this point. I was disappointed in the O vs Carolina but it wasn't shocking but the Seattle game was pretty much what I expected.
They are starting over. New complex offensive system that won't be mastered overnight. This isn't a college offense that simplifies everything for the QB. There is a reason people viewed Shanahan as the QB killer. It takes time.
Don't you worry. The 49ers are going to win just enough games this year to ensure they either can't get or have to give up the farm to get one of the top QBs in the draft. They have had three big factors here early....1) Complex new offense with tons of new players, 2) Bad interior O-Line play, and 3) Played against 2 of the best front 7s in the NFL.
This result isn't exactly shocking...which leads me back to my question...What were you expecting exactly?
