Originally posted by jimrat:
What happened to all the back yard football players don't work in the NFL guys at, Mayfield and Jackson look good lol
Mahomes and Darnold as well. Maybe we're entering the Sandlot era.
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Dec 23, 2018 at 5:01 PM
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Mahomes and Darnold as well. Maybe we're entering the Sandlot era.
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Dec 23, 2018 at 5:05 PM
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Watson also, I love the dual threat QB.Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by jimrat:What happened to all the back yard football players don't work in the NFL guys at, Mayfield and Jackson look good lol
Mahomes and Darnold as well. Maybe we're entering the Sandlot era.
Dec 23, 2018 at 5:14 PM
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Originally posted by rathman4481:Still would rank him the worst of the 1st rounders.
Based on what though? He's out there leading his team to wins. He made some great throws against a good Chargers defense too so he's not just doing it with his legs.
Honestly what has a guy like Rosen shown to put him above Lamar?
Dec 23, 2018 at 5:28 PM
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Originally posted by jimrat:What happened to all the back yard football players don't work in the NFL guys at, Mayfield and Jackson look good lol
I mean these guys aren't typical gimmick players. Mayfield is deadly accurate. His ball placement reminds me of Brees the year that Rivers was drafted and he really started balling out.
Jackson is more the stereotypical running QB but I think his passing ability exceeeds that of guys like Kaepernick and Vick as rookies. The sky is really the limit for how good he can be if he puts the work in.
Dec 26, 2018 at 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I mean these guys aren't typical gimmick players. Mayfield is deadly accurate. His ball placement reminds me of Brees the year that Rivers was drafted and he really started balling out.
Jackson is more the stereotypical running QB but I think his passing ability exceeeds that of guys like Kaepernick and Vick as rookies. The sky is really the limit for how good he can be if he puts the work in.
I didn't like Lamar at all early in his college career. I became a believer because I can't think of any football player that improved so much year-to-year.
QB Rating first 3 starts: 70, 58, 74
QB Rating most recent 3 starts: 100, 91, 101
The guy might not be articulate, but he has a football brain like a sponge.
He's basically already producing as a passer what Flacco did, and adds the running element. Keep in mind the Baltimore Ravens WR group is bottom of the barrel. John Brown and an old Crabtree.
Dec 26, 2018 at 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by jimrat:What happened to all the back yard football players don't work in the NFL guys at, Mayfield and Jackson look good lol
Well I've said or stated that they'll make good YouTube highlights in the NFL. But show me one that has won a Super Bowl or Super Bowls?
Dec 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:I didn't like Lamar at all early in his college career. I became a believer because I can't think of any football player that improved so much year-to-year.
QB Rating first 3 starts: 70, 58, 74
QB Rating most recent 3 starts: 100, 91, 101
The guy might not be articulate, but he has a football brain like a sponge.
He's basically already producing as a passer what Flacco did, and adds the running element. Keep in mind the Baltimore Ravens WR group is bottom of the barrel. John Brown and an old Crabtree.
Likewise. His improvement in his final year of college showed tremendous dedication. You don't suddenly wake up and get that much better by accident. I went from one of his biggest critics to thinking that he could be something special.
Dec 26, 2018 at 1:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Well I've said or stated that they'll make good YouTube highlights in the NFL. But show me one that has won a Super Bowl or Super Bowls?
Uh Baker, Lamar and Mahomes just started for their first year In their career
Dec 26, 2018 at 3:30 PM
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by Kolohe:Well I've said or stated that they'll make good YouTube highlights in the NFL. But show me one that has won a Super Bowl or Super Bowls?
Uh Baker, Lamar and Mahomes just started for their first year In their career
But I'm talking about in NFL history duhhhhh!!!
Dec 26, 2018 at 5:07 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
But I'm talking about in NFL history duhhhhh!!!
Steve Young, Russell Wilson
Jake the Snake and Tarkenton were pretty successful too. Can probably lump Favre into that category as well. There have been unconventional QBs that improvise on plays that were winners.
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Dec 26, 2018 at 5:23 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jimrat:
What happened to all the back yard football players don't work in the NFL guys at, Mayfield and Jackson look good lol
Mahomes and Darnold as well. Maybe we're entering the Sandlot era.
I think thats how qbs are gonna be like after brees and brady retires. O-line play has dipped imo in the last 5 years imo so qbs that can move around are going to be valued a lot more.
Dec 26, 2018 at 5:29 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by rathman4481:Still would rank him the worst of the 1st rounders.
Based on what though? He's out there leading his team to wins. He made some great throws against a good Chargers defense too so he's not just doing it with his legs.
Honestly what has a guy like Rosen shown to put him above Lamar?
I'd only take Baker over him right now.
Dec 26, 2018 at 5:41 PM
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John Elway and Roger Staubach also.Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by Kolohe:But I'm talking about in NFL history duhhhhh!!!
Steve Young, Russell Wilson
Jake the Snake and Tarkenton were pretty successful too. Can probably lump Favre into that category as well. There have been unconventional QBs that improvise on plays that were winners.
Dec 27, 2018 at 8:14 AM
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But I'm talking about in NFL history duhhhhh!!!
Steve Young, Russell Wilson
Jake the Snake and Tarkenton were pretty successful too. Can probably lump Favre into that category as well. There have been unconventional QBs that improvise on plays that were winners.
Horrible comparisons. Even though Young ran a lot in college, he could definitely pass from the pocket. Russell Wilson ran more of a Pro Style at Wisconsin than just the read-option. I'm pretty sure at NC State he was more spread than just run around like Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson.
Dec 27, 2018 at 8:14 AM
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Originally posted by jimrat:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:John Elway and Roger Staubach also.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But I'm talking about in NFL history duhhhhh!!!
Steve Young, Russell Wilson
Jake the Snake and Tarkenton were pretty successful too. Can probably lump Favre into that category as well. There have been unconventional QBs that improvise on plays that were winners.
Now we're just listing QB's WHO CAN run. lol