DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Since07:

Good point about the coaching staff. Don't get me wrong Id want him to start but fully expect him to be 2nd string behind TJE

And I see no reason to believe that. Buckner is a much better prospect than Armstead was a year ago. Its not like the 49ers have any stellar talent to keep him on the bench. TJE is a backup, always has been and I don't see Dial being able to hold off Buckner who is outstanding as a run defender but also brings a pass rush element.

Anything is possible but with his familiarity with the scheme Kelly runs, with the coaching staff, with Armstead, I don't see him being in a situation typical for most rookies and I hope he takes advantage of that. Buckner not being a starter Week 1 would be somewhat of a disappointment imo. Just as I expected Patrick Willis to start from Day 1, Buckner should start at DE from Day 1 and never look back.

In the last the team has seemed concerned about endurance, strength and experience when it comes to getting defensive lineman in the game. Buckner was one of the most used college players last year so endurance is a check. By all accounts he does not need to bulk up much. His experience in the same defense as is being implemented here may alleviate concerns re: experience. I guess we'll see, but Buckner seems like hes about as game ready a college defensive line as you're going to get.

i wonder if they'll rotate him in early on in the season to get his feet wet with him eventually starting.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Since07:
I just explained why I don't think he'll start. If you're asking me for a reason I dont have one. That's why I say imma lol when he doesn't

But none of that is really applicable. Different coaching staff, different players......I havent seen any real argument as to why he wouldnt start beyond "well Aldon Smith didnt start."



Aldon didnt play all three downs because they didnt trust him against the run. He was also far more raw, having started about half the games that Buckner did.


Buckner is a much more game ready prospect. He is coming out as a senior, highly experienced, capable agaibst both the passand the run.

He has already played under the current coach and his role would be basically the same as it was in college. No reason to not expect him to be a starter while Dial gets bumped to NT or a rotational role.

Good point about the coaching staff. Don't get me wrong Id want him to start but fully expect him to be 2nd string behind TJE

nah that's gonna be AA.

Lol, neither one of those guys will be behind TJE... unless TJE improved DRAMATICALLY, I fully expect him to be an assistant to Tomsula once he gets hired as our new Chief of Janitorial Operations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just curious. And I'm too tired and lazy to look. Anyone checked a Seahawks, cards, or Rams message board to see what their fans think of this pick? Happy we took him? Worried? We talk about who they pick up. Just curious what other side thinks.

Originally posted by frozen49er:

Just curious. And I'm too tired and lazy to look. Anyone checked a Seahawks, cards, or Rams message board to see what their fans think of this pick? Happy we took him? Worried? We talk about who they pick up. Just curious what other side thinks.

He was ranked by many experts as a top 3 player in this draft, so getting him at 7 is hard to dislike for anybody.

OTC, a few pages back you gave the nod to TJE over Purcell....how so? It seemed when tomsul finally put Purcell in, he was making tackles or pressuring , right and left. He shoulda had way more PT than he got....but that was tomsul, so....

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

OTC, a few pages back you gave the nod to TJE over Purcell....how so? It seemed when tomsul finally put Purcell in, he was making tackles or pressuring , right and left. He shoulda had way more PT than he got....but that was tomsul, so....

He goes for a ride against double teams. Need to sit his ass down and not surrender a HUGE running lane.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
OTC, a few pages back you gave the nod to TJE over Purcell....how so? It seemed when tomsul finally put Purcell in, he was making tackles or pressuring , right and left. He shoulda had way more PT than he got....but that was tomsul, so....

He goes for a ride against double teams. Need to sit his ass down and not surrender a HUGE running lane.

Thats where lack of playing time and real reps come into play. he needs that PT

Originally posted by frozen49er:
Just curious. And I'm too tired and lazy to look. Anyone checked a Seahawks, cards, or Rams message board to see what their fans think of this pick? Happy we took him? Worried? We talk about who they pick up. Just curious what other side thinks.

.NET Nation trying to call him as overrated as they can get away with, as usual.

This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Reid, Ward, Armstead, all look to be part of a future core group to make another playoff run. Ward came on strong late last season and looked very good. Armstead should be a fulltime starter this year. Reid has been the best safety out of his draft class and a starter from Day 1.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Reid, Ward, Armstead, all look to be part of a future core group to make another playoff run. Ward came on strong late last season and looked very good. Armstead should be a fulltime starter this year. Reid has been the best safety out of his draft class and a starter from Day 1.

He writes something negative then runs away when someone actually post something with actual facts....really no point in commenting on his posts.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Reid, Ward, Armstead, all look to be part of a future core group to make another playoff run. Ward came on strong late last season and looked very good. Armstead should be a fulltime starter this year. Reid has been the best safety out of his draft class and a starter from Day 1.

Do you even pop tartt bruh?

The three you mentioned. Buckner, and wiliams, if he ever gets and stays healthy. could mean huge things for our d. A solid core. And we have a million young cb's with a lot of promise, Some solid rotational d line players. Our d is ready just needs a coach imo.

Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Reid, Ward, Armstead, all look to be part of a future core group to make another playoff run. Ward came on strong late last season and looked very good. Armstead should be a fulltime starter this year. Reid has been the best safety out of his draft class and a starter from Day 1.

Do you even pop tartt bruh?

The three you mentioned. Buckner, and wiliams, if he ever gets and stays healthy. could mean huge things for our d. A solid core. And we have a million young cb's with a lot of promise, Some solid rotational d line players. Our d is ready just needs a coach imo.

Tartt was drafted in the 2nd.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
This is the only first round pick baalke got right in the past 4 years.

Reid, Ward, Armstead, all look to be part of a future core group to make another playoff run. Ward came on strong late last season and looked very good. Armstead should be a fulltime starter this year. Reid has been the best safety out of his draft class and a starter from Day 1.

all those guys are awful or average at best. lol

Did Buckner graduate early? I ask cause, we always have problems with drafting Oregon players as that school graduates late and NFL rules state they can't practice with teams unless their school graduates. They can go to rookie camp and I think OTAs but not TC.

That was a problem for Arik, he had to sit and couldn't get any reps. That probably set him back some. With a full off season and the strides Arik made last year and teaming with a more polished Buckner, If those two get together that is going to be a good cohesion.