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Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Jcool:

Such a vague, John-Lynch-Type comment.

This team is going to need depth everywhere, with the exception of the d-line. As a GM, you should always be looking to improve your team any opportunity you get.

yah improve it but not gut it and risk the future

Well yea, of course. You aim for a win-win situation, but not every negotiation works that way. Sometimes, you have to give up a little extra. Ramsey is worth it.

we gonna have room to pay ramsey highest paid cb money, buckner probably 2nd highest paid DT behind donald and Kittle to a possible highest paid TE contract? On top of that resign good depth guys like blair and armstead? Im 100% sure all this we need to trade for Ramsey talk is moot since Lynch is not going to mortgage the future for guy like him. Were not KC who clearly is all in SB or bust f**k the future mode, lets see what happens when Mahomes gets 200 plus mil who gets cut/traded and whose going to be unhappy if theyre forced to take a pay cut.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
How much draft capital would it take to move up from 20 to lets say 3? Cause if Ramsey was in the draft knowing what they know about him he would be a top 3 pick if not 1. So you give up a 1 and you receive Ramsey the other 1 is the payment for that opportunity to get him. He is under contact for 2 years still there is plenty of time to get everyone covered.

It doesn't matter that hes under contract for 2 more years. He wants to be payed now. And if you refuse, he can just demand a trade again or just sit out.

I think I saw somewhere he will honor the last 2 years of his contract but is dead set on going to Free Agency.

If thats the case, that wouldn't be that bad.

It is if you are giving up two first round picks to acquire said player.

Late picks. Better than drafting Jimmie Ward and Garrett with those late 1st picks.

This regime did not draft those guys though. And you don't cough up 2 late first rounders for a 2 year rental.

Right, they drafter Thomas and Foster

And why does he have to be a 2 year rental?

If there is truth to him wanting to play out his rookie deal and test the market then that is what you get. You don't want to get into a bidding war for his services on the open market.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Jcool:

Such a vague, John-Lynch-Type comment.

This team is going to need depth everywhere, with the exception of the d-line. As a GM, you should always be looking to improve your team any opportunity you get.

yah improve it but not gut it and risk the future

Well yea, of course. You aim for a win-win situation, but not every negotiation works that way. Sometimes, you have to give up a little extra. Ramsey is worth it.

we gonna have room to pay ramsey highest paid cb money, buckner probably 2nd highest paid DT behind donald and Kittle to a possible highest paid TE contract? On top of that resign good depth guys like blair and armstead? Im 100% sure all this we need to trade for Ramsey talk is moot since Lynch is not going to mortgage the future for guy like him. Were not KC who clearly is all in SB or bust f**k the future mode, lets see what happens when Mahomes gets 200 plus mil who gets cut/traded and whose going to be unhappy if theyre forced to take a pay cut.

Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.
[ Edited by braap49er on Sep 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM ]
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Jcool:

Such a vague, John-Lynch-Type comment.

This team is going to need depth everywhere, with the exception of the d-line. As a GM, you should always be looking to improve your team any opportunity you get.

yah improve it but not gut it and risk the future

Well yea, of course. You aim for a win-win situation, but not every negotiation works that way. Sometimes, you have to give up a little extra. Ramsey is worth it.

we gonna have room to pay ramsey highest paid cb money, buckner probably 2nd highest paid DT behind donald and Kittle to a possible highest paid TE contract? On top of that resign good depth guys like blair and armstead? Im 100% sure all this we need to trade for Ramsey talk is moot since Lynch is not going to mortgage the future for guy like him. Were not KC who clearly is all in SB or bust f**k the future mode, lets see what happens when Mahomes gets 200 plus mil who gets cut/traded and whose going to be unhappy if theyre forced to take a pay cut.

Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

BINGO! Nothing is sweeter than being a super bowl hopeful year in year out. Im not selling my soul to win 1 and go to hell for 10 years and its not even a guarantee you'll win it if you go all in.
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

Paying a few guys isnt a problem but what FA exactly are they breaking the bank for?
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

Paying a few guys isnt a problem but what FA exactly are they breaking the bank for?
What free agents would the Niners have to break the bank for? People need to realize that this team is built and they will only be adding depth and drafted players from here on out with the exception of left tackle.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

The Niner had no issue dealing out contracts to Kwon and Ford either.

The Pats signing Gilmore was smart but they did not trade for him instead landed him via FA. Nor have they ever dealt as much capital as the Jags want for Ramsey for any one player.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

The Niner had no issue dealing out contracts to Kwon and Ford either.

The Pats signing Gilmore was smart but they did not trade for him instead landed him via FA. Nor have they ever dealt as much capital as the Jags want for Ramsey for any one player.
Not really sure what Kwon and Ford have to do with this? And it's not entirely true to say they have not given up draft capital to get a player they covet since they sent a first and third for Brandin cooks. They recognized that he would lift there team and got him.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

The Niner had no issue dealing out contracts to Kwon and Ford either.

The Pats signing Gilmore was smart but they did not trade for him instead landed him via FA. Nor have they ever dealt as much capital as the Jags want for Ramsey for any one player.
Not really sure what Kwon and Ford have to do with this? And it's not entirely true to say they have not given up draft capital to get a player they covet since they sent a first and third for Brandin cooks. They recognized that he would lift there team and got him.

Uhhh yeah because they're in super bowl mode. When you're only a piece or two from making a super bowl team then you go for it. People want to mortgage the future when we don't even know if the Niners are super bowl contenders. If the Niners are only a CB away from being contenders then hell yeah, you trade for him. It's too early right now to judge how the team is currently. We'll see later this season where the Niners stand, hopefully on top.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

The Niner had no issue dealing out contracts to Kwon and Ford either.

The Pats signing Gilmore was smart but they did not trade for him instead landed him via FA. Nor have they ever dealt as much capital as the Jags want for Ramsey for any one player.
Not really sure what Kwon and Ford have to do with this? And it's not entirely true to say they have not given up draft capital to get a player they covet since they sent a first and third for Brandin cooks. They recognized that he would lift there team and got him.

They got a 4th round pick back on that trade for Cooks. They have never given up two firsts or anything close to that for one player.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Jcool:

Such a vague, John-Lynch-Type comment.

This team is going to need depth everywhere, with the exception of the d-line. As a GM, you should always be looking to improve your team any opportunity you get.

yah improve it but not gut it and risk the future

Well yea, of course. You aim for a win-win situation, but not every negotiation works that way. Sometimes, you have to give up a little extra. Ramsey is worth it.

we gonna have room to pay ramsey highest paid cb money, buckner probably 2nd highest paid DT behind donald and Kittle to a possible highest paid TE contract? On top of that resign good depth guys like blair and armstead? Im 100% sure all this we need to trade for Ramsey talk is moot since Lynch is not going to mortgage the future for guy like him. Were not KC who clearly is all in SB or bust f**k the future mode, lets see what happens when Mahomes gets 200 plus mil who gets cut/traded and whose going to be unhappy if theyre forced to take a pay cut.

Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

BINGO! Nothing is sweeter than being a super bowl hopeful year in year out. Im not selling my soul to win 1 and go to hell for 10 years and its not even a guarantee you'll win it if you go all in.

First off, all of this speculation of blowing our entire cap on re-signing Ramsey is just that: speculation.

Second, we have our FQB signed right now, and that is the most important key to maintaining success long-term. If you're assuming that we are going to be paying Buckner 2nd highest DL money, and Kittle to the highest paid TE money, than that means we are hamstringing ourselves form being to sign other elite talent to key positions of need, correct? If so, why the hell would we do that if we are trying to maintain success long-term?

Third, yes I'm sure it's all moot because Lynch hasn't been able to trade for an elite player thus far. Missed out on Mack and OBJ.

Finally, we've already somewhat mortgaged part of the future KC can cut and trade whoever they want because as long as they have Mahomes, they will be in the playoff picture. Same situation with Russell Wilson & Seattle.
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Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Thank you. Our goal is to win multiple Super Bowls and be on top for a long time like the Patriots. We don't want to win one super bowl and then start all over again and suck ass for another 10 years.

interesting that you brought up the Patriots cause they had no problems paying Gilmore what 65mil in 2017 and are able to add free agents and keep there core players.

The Niner had no issue dealing out contracts to Kwon and Ford either.

The Pats signing Gilmore was smart but they did not trade for him instead landed him via FA. Nor have they ever dealt as much capital as the Jags want for Ramsey for any one player.
Not really sure what Kwon and Ford have to do with this? And it's not entirely true to say they have not given up draft capital to get a player they covet since they sent a first and third for Brandin cooks. They recognized that he would lift there team and got him.

Uhhh yeah because they're in super bowl mode. When you're only a piece or two from making a super bowl team then you go for it. People want to mortgage the future when we don't even know if the Niners are super bowl contenders. If the Niners are only a CB away from being contenders then hell yeah, you trade for him. It's too early right now to judge how the team is currently. We'll see later this season where the Niners stand, hopefully on top.

We're getting there w/out Ramsey. BB / Brady will go into retirement after the Niners smash that ass in the SB #Bookit
Originally posted by LVJay:
We're getting there w/out Ramsey. BB / Brady will go into retirement after the Niners smash that ass in the SB #Bookit

WOOT WOOT!!!!!
Originally posted by LVJay:
We're getting there w/out Ramsey. BB / Brady will go into retirement after the Niners smash that ass in the SB #Bookit

Lol
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