The **OFFICIAL** Cam Newton Bandwagon!

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by dlance:
Has he taken the wonderlic yet. has his score for the wonderlic been leak out yet. I'm not sure how intelligence the guy is or is not. I really don't feel that picking him in the top 7 or maybe 10 would be a good move . but there really isn't much to tell us how smart he is or isn't.

Oh, the irony!

(Sorry bud, couldn't resist! )

Sorry about that I hope you never make any mistakes on here. It should have been intelligent, and I needed to capitalize plus add comas. And, your not sorry your just an

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Cam has BUST written all over his forehead! I really hope we don't even consider getting him!

I thought he had it tattooed on his forhead

He's already running his mouth about being an icon and entertainer without ever having played one friggin snap in the NFL.... I know it was taken out of context, but s**t, who says that about themselves?

Plus his demeanor and intelligence level tells a lot about the kid. Even when doing interviews. I was playing close attention to him during yesterday's QB workouts and he was always playing with his shorts, talking to other guys, goofing off, etc. when the QB coach was giving the group instruction. Where is the focus or show of good character? The willingness to be the best, regardless of the fact that its only a drill.

Some of the throws he was making during the drills also leave A LOT to wonder. Floaters, in-accurate, late, etc. etc.

Breaking News! Cam Newton plays with shorts! #1 indicator of NFL greatness. To put it into historical context.... Ryan Leaf played with his shorts during pre draft workouts while Peyton Manning did not. Then again Matt Ryan had 2 & 1/2 tugs on his shorts during the 2008 combine but that wasn't enough to prove he was a habitual shorts player. Also studies show that 83% of stats are made up.

If he cant perform well while in shorts, there is no way he will do better with pads.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by dlance:
Has he taken the wonderlic yet. has his score for the wonderlic been leak out yet. I'm not sure how intelligence the guy is or is not. I really don't feel that picking him in the top 7 or maybe 10 would be a good move . but there really isn't much to tell us how smart he is or isn't.

Oh, the irony!

(Sorry bud, couldn't resist! )

Sorry about that I hope you never make any mistakes on here. It should have been intelligent, and I needed to capitalize plus add comas. And, your not sorry your just an

...an ass hole(sometimes). Yes, I agree. I just couldn't resist because you were questioning the kids intelligence level, yet you couldn't even type a couple of sentences without making 6 serious grammatical errors.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by teeohh:

I don't get it

I just watched about 10min of his highlights and everyone is the same play he either throws the ball to his #1 target or runs

Not one snap under center, no reading of the defense, no progression.

He’s a one dimensional option shoot quarterback. It would take him years to master Harbaugh’s offense.

If he’s drafted early by a crappy team and starts early he will most likely fail. His best chance is to get taken by a decent team latter, sit and learn.

Hmm...he made plenty of throws where he is just sitting back in the pocket and then makin' the pass to the open guy.

A couple of days ago Mayock was going over him and said about 10% of his passes were NFL scenario reads. That's roughly 30-40 plays.

I'm not against Cam I just think there's a bigger developmental period than most Cam fans want to admit. Big Ben, Freeman. 3 year starters. I think he compares to them alot more than he does Vince but it's not a patient league anymore and he might get thrown into fire alot quicker than he should.

I think he is 2 years away, but it's not like he can't contribute from day 1. He can contribute in wildcat right away.

do we really want to pay mega bucks for a guy to ride the bench AND expose him to injury by having him run the ball?

our team isnt that deep in talent to afford this

We all know how this plays out. Alex starts year as starter. We lose and lose some more, fans chant Newton's name like crazy and Newton is starting by week 7.

Or if we draft Newton and free agency hasn't started Alex bolts and we get stuck with Cleo Lemon as our quarterback. Either way Newton is going to be starting very quickly for us.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Cam has BUST written all over his forehead! I really hope we don't even consider getting him!

I thought he had it tattooed on his forhead

He's already running his mouth about being an icon and entertainer without ever having played one friggin snap in the NFL.... I know it was taken out of context, but s**t, who says that about themselves?

Plus his demeanor and intelligence level tells a lot about the kid. Even when doing interviews. I was playing close attention to him during yesterday's QB workouts and he was always playing with his shorts, talking to other guys, goofing off, etc. when the QB coach was giving the group instruction. Where is the focus or show of good character? The willingness to be the best, regardless of the fact that its only a drill.

Some of the throws he was making during the drills also leave A LOT to wonder. Floaters, in-accurate, late, etc. etc.

Breaking News! Cam Newton plays with shorts! #1 indicator of NFL greatness. To put it into historical context.... Ryan Leaf played with his shorts during pre draft workouts while Peyton Manning did not. Then again Matt Ryan had 2 & 1/2 tugs on his shorts during the 2008 combine but that wasn't enough to prove he was a habitual shorts player. Also studies show that 83% of stats are made up.

If he cant perform well while in shorts, there is no way he will do better with pads.

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Mike Mayock said his opinion on Cam Newton hasn't changed based on today. He said that he found him to be intelligent and a nice kid.

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Here’s what Mayock likes about Newton:

“His throwing mechanics are excellent. If you compare him to the best runners in the last bunch of years of big quarterbacks – like Vince Young and Tim Tebow – his throwing mechanics are superior to both. He’s a big strong guy and we all know he can run.”

Here are Mayock’s concerns regarding Newton:

“To me, there’s two questions about Cam Newton: He comes out of a very simple pass offense in Auburn, and either the ball comes out or he comes out (after one read). Can he process and assimilate from a football IQ perspective the complicated NFL pass offense?

“Number two, there’s some baggage to the kid. And I say the same thing with Ryan Mallett (of Arkansas) … I’m amazed at how well those two kids throw the football. When you see them in a pair of gym shorts, you say I want them on my team. But you don’t play in gym shorts on Sunday. You better figure out their work ethic, their toughness and their football IQ.”

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NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said the 6-foot-5, 248-pounds Newton performed as expected.

"What do I think of Cam Newton? Nothing changed for me," he said. "He's got a big arm, better mechanics than Vince Young or Tim Tebow or any of those other big guys."

Mayock said the biggest questions about Newton weren't answered during physical testing.

"He's coming out of a pass offense where it's fairly simple, not a lot of reads," he said. "He didn't have a lot of patience in the pocket, and I'm not hitting him on any of those things because that's what he did to win a national championship. That's what he's supposed to do."

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NFL Network analyst Charles Davis: “I thought it was a good workout overall. Obviously, the athleticism came to the forefront in drills like the 40 and broad jump. That part was tremendous. While throwing, I thought the ball came out of his hand well. He wasn’t as accurate as the other guys — he missed on some balls and was high on some others — but those aren’t factors that dissuade me from thinking he’s an elite talent, because he is. Newton’s mechanics need refinement, but he has all of the basics, and I think he’s way ahead of the game compared to all of the guys he gets compared to, which I believe is unfair. He’s a guy teams will want to work with.”

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NFL.com senior analyst Pat Kirwan: “Had Newton worked out yesterday and dealt with all of the cameras today, he would have had a better workout. I didn’t think he was relaxed, and some of the things he did were out of tightness. I would have loved to have seen him take reps before or after (Arkansas QB) Ryan Mallett. I’m going back to watch more tape of Newton, especially his out routes and throws to his right. He had some mechanical issues, including not settling his feet, not transferring his weight correctly and releasing the ball high. He sailed a few balls in a row to his right. These things are correctable, and some he’ll correct himself. Newton was tremendous on the deep throws but was raw in his mechanics. His footwork isn’t as good as Mallett’s, but he’s a tremendous athlete. I don’t think Newton helped himself, but he’s still in the top 15.”

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INDIANAPOLIS -- No one really knew who George Whitfield Jr. was before Ben Roethlisberger's agent came up with the bright idea of hiring him to work with the Steelers' QB during his four-game suspension to start last season.

When Roethlisberger -- who wasn't allowed to work with his team during that time -- looked mostly sharp after his return and performed well enough to help the Steelers reach the Super Bowl, Whitfield became someone people around the NFL began to notice.

And that went a long way toward allowing him to land yet another prominent client: Cam Newton.

Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon, who has served as an advisor to Newton, was responsible for putting the teacher and student together.

Whitfield, 33, has spent the past six weeks working with Newton to prepare him for Sunday's QB drills at the NFL Scouting Combine. The emphasis on the sessions that took place in Whitfield's hometown of San Diego has been to prepare the Heisman Trophy winner to show league talent evaluators he can handle more than just the spread-style offense he has operated at Auburn, Florida and Blinn College in Texas.

"He's much further ahead than the perception of where people think he is, running the spread-option offense," Whitfield told me here earlier Saturday during an interview on Sirius NFL Radio. "Imagine your company car is an automatic. When he got to Florida, he was given a spread deal, he was given the same deal at Blinn, and he was given the same deal at Auburn. It doesn't mean the kid does not know how to drive a manual, stick-shift car."

Whitfield's business card lists him as a "Professional Quarterback Builder." He also likes being called a "Quarterback Doctor" and "Quarterback Mechanic." Just don't call him a trainer, because he doesn't "really spend time with these guys in the weight room on conditioning and things like that."

Whitfield played quarterback at Tiffin University in Ohio and in the Arena Football League. He also worked as a graduate assistant at Iowa and was a training-camp intern under then-San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. During that time, Whitfield worked with all of the Chargers quarterbacks, including Philip Rivers.

That helped pave the way for Whitfield to begin his training center for quarterbacks. He works mostly with high school players, but everything changed when he got the chance to work with Roethlisberger -- and now Newton.

Whitfield has seen rapid development in a quarterback who some draft analysts believe could be a top-three draft pick.

"Once we got on the board, he was very bright, very articulate," Whitfield said. "He could not just lay out coverages and where people belong. He could also give you the indicating factors of why this coverage actually is going to wind up rolling down or why this back-side, boundary corner is actually more aggressive than he looks.

"As a student on the field, he's what I call an 'active learner.' Some guys kind of nod; they just want to get it and let it wash over me and get to the next rep. Cam will stop you and slow you down. (He'll say) 'Let me see that again ... walk me through that ... what is that step for again?'"

All of the workouts are videotaped, and Whitfield and Newton review them every two days. They often watch them standing up, so Whitfield can take Newton through a walk-through while watching the tape.

"I'll leave and come back later and see him still in some corner of the room working at it," Newton said. "He doesn't really repeat the same things and same missteps too many times. I think, as a student, if you have that type of pride, you can kind of leapfrog in your process, no matter what your starting point is."

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Cam has BUST written all over his forehead! I really hope we don't even consider getting him!

I thought he had it tattooed on his forhead

He's already running his mouth about being an icon and entertainer without ever having played one friggin snap in the NFL.... I know it was taken out of context, but s**t, who says that about themselves?

Plus his demeanor and intelligence level tells a lot about the kid. Even when doing interviews. I was playing close attention to him during yesterday's QB workouts and he was always playing with his shorts, talking to other guys, goofing off, etc. when the QB coach was giving the group instruction. Where is the focus or show of good character? The willingness to be the best, regardless of the fact that its only a drill.

Some of the throws he was making during the drills also leave A LOT to wonder. Floaters, in-accurate, late, etc. etc.

Breaking News! Cam Newton plays with shorts! #1 indicator of NFL greatness. To put it into historical context.... Ryan Leaf played with his shorts during pre draft workouts while Peyton Manning did not. Then again Matt Ryan had 2 & 1/2 tugs on his shorts during the 2008 combine but that wasn't enough to prove he was a habitual shorts player. Also studies show that 83% of stats are made up.

If he cant perform well while in shorts, there is no way he will do better with pads.

Seems some of the "experts" don't exactly share the same opinion as you do.

Quote:
Mike Mayock said his opinion on Cam Newton hasn't changed based on today. He said that he found him to be intelligent and a nice kid.

http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/41977119533826048

Quote:
Here’s what Mayock likes about Newton:

“His throwing mechanics are excellent. If you compare him to the best runners in the last bunch of years of big quarterbacks – like Vince Young and Tim Tebow – his throwing mechanics are superior to both. He’s a big strong guy and we all know he can run.”

Here are Mayock’s concerns regarding Newton:

“To me, there’s two questions about Cam Newton: He comes out of a very simple pass offense in Auburn, and either the ball comes out or he comes out (after one read). Can he process and assimilate from a football IQ perspective the complicated NFL pass offense?

“Number two, there’s some baggage to the kid. And I say the same thing with Ryan Mallett (of Arkansas) … I’m amazed at how well those two kids throw the football. When you see them in a pair of gym shorts, you say I want them on my team. But you don’t play in gym shorts on Sunday. You better figure out their work ethic, their toughness and their football IQ.”

Quote:
NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said the 6-foot-5, 248-pounds Newton performed as expected.

"What do I think of Cam Newton? Nothing changed for me," he said. "He's got a big arm, better mechanics than Vince Young or Tim Tebow or any of those other big guys."

Mayock said the biggest questions about Newton weren't answered during physical testing.

"He's coming out of a pass offense where it's fairly simple, not a lot of reads," he said. "He didn't have a lot of patience in the pocket, and I'm not hitting him on any of those things because that's what he did to win a national championship. That's what he's supposed to do."

Quote:
NFL Network analyst Charles Davis: “I thought it was a good workout overall. Obviously, the athleticism came to the forefront in drills like the 40 and broad jump. That part was tremendous. While throwing, I thought the ball came out of his hand well. He wasn’t as accurate as the other guys — he missed on some balls and was high on some others — but those aren’t factors that dissuade me from thinking he’s an elite talent, because he is. Newton’s mechanics need refinement, but he has all of the basics, and I think he’s way ahead of the game compared to all of the guys he gets compared to, which I believe is unfair. He’s a guy teams will want to work with.”

Quote:
NFL.com senior analyst Pat Kirwan: “Had Newton worked out yesterday and dealt with all of the cameras today, he would have had a better workout. I didn’t think he was relaxed, and some of the things he did were out of tightness. I would have loved to have seen him take reps before or after (Arkansas QB) Ryan Mallett. I’m going back to watch more tape of Newton, especially his out routes and throws to his right. He had some mechanical issues, including not settling his feet, not transferring his weight correctly and releasing the ball high. He sailed a few balls in a row to his right. These things are correctable, and some he’ll correct himself. Newton was tremendous on the deep throws but was raw in his mechanics. His footwork isn’t as good as Mallett’s, but he’s a tremendous athlete. I don’t think Newton helped himself, but he’s still in the top 15.”

And a piece on Cam to add to the overall discussion :

Quote:
INDIANAPOLIS -- No one really knew who George Whitfield Jr. was before Ben Roethlisberger's agent came up with the bright idea of hiring him to work with the Steelers' QB during his four-game suspension to start last season.

When Roethlisberger -- who wasn't allowed to work with his team during that time -- looked mostly sharp after his return and performed well enough to help the Steelers reach the Super Bowl, Whitfield became someone people around the NFL began to notice.

And that went a long way toward allowing him to land yet another prominent client: Cam Newton.

Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon, who has served as an advisor to Newton, was responsible for putting the teacher and student together.

Whitfield, 33, has spent the past six weeks working with Newton to prepare him for Sunday's QB drills at the NFL Scouting Combine. The emphasis on the sessions that took place in Whitfield's hometown of San Diego has been to prepare the Heisman Trophy winner to show league talent evaluators he can handle more than just the spread-style offense he has operated at Auburn, Florida and Blinn College in Texas.

"He's much further ahead than the perception of where people think he is, running the spread-option offense," Whitfield told me here earlier Saturday during an interview on Sirius NFL Radio. "Imagine your company car is an automatic. When he got to Florida, he was given a spread deal, he was given the same deal at Blinn, and he was given the same deal at Auburn. It doesn't mean the kid does not know how to drive a manual, stick-shift car."

Whitfield's business card lists him as a "Professional Quarterback Builder." He also likes being called a "Quarterback Doctor" and "Quarterback Mechanic." Just don't call him a trainer, because he doesn't "really spend time with these guys in the weight room on conditioning and things like that."

Whitfield played quarterback at Tiffin University in Ohio and in the Arena Football League. He also worked as a graduate assistant at Iowa and was a training-camp intern under then-San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. During that time, Whitfield worked with all of the Chargers quarterbacks, including Philip Rivers.

That helped pave the way for Whitfield to begin his training center for quarterbacks. He works mostly with high school players, but everything changed when he got the chance to work with Roethlisberger -- and now Newton.

Whitfield has seen rapid development in a quarterback who some draft analysts believe could be a top-three draft pick.

"Once we got on the board, he was very bright, very articulate," Whitfield said. "He could not just lay out coverages and where people belong. He could also give you the indicating factors of why this coverage actually is going to wind up rolling down or why this back-side, boundary corner is actually more aggressive than he looks.

"As a student on the field, he's what I call an 'active learner.' Some guys kind of nod; they just want to get it and let it wash over me and get to the next rep. Cam will stop you and slow you down. (He'll say) 'Let me see that again ... walk me through that ... what is that step for again?'"

All of the workouts are videotaped, and Whitfield and Newton review them every two days. They often watch them standing up, so Whitfield can take Newton through a walk-through while watching the tape.

"I'll leave and come back later and see him still in some corner of the room working at it," Newton said. "He doesn't really repeat the same things and same missteps too many times. I think, as a student, if you have that type of pride, you can kind of leapfrog in your process, no matter what your starting point is."

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by dlance:
Has he taken the wonderlic yet. has his score for the wonderlic been leak out yet. I'm not sure how intelligence the guy is or is not. I really don't feel that picking him in the top 7 or maybe 10 would be a good move . but there really isn't much to tell us how smart he is or isn't.

Oh, the irony!

(Sorry bud, couldn't resist! )

Sorry about that I hope you never make any mistakes on here. It should have been intelligent, and I needed to capitalize plus add comas. And, your not sorry your just an

Originally posted by submoa:
cam could be metro.... looks like he shaves his arm pits:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6166674

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Cam has BUST written all over his forehead! I really hope we don't even consider getting him!

I thought he had it tattooed on his forhead

He's already running his mouth about being an icon and entertainer without ever having played one friggin snap in the NFL.... I know it was taken out of context, but s**t, who says that about themselves?

Plus his demeanor and intelligence level tells a lot about the kid. Even when doing interviews. I was playing close attention to him during yesterday's QB workouts and he was always playing with his shorts, talking to other guys, goofing off, etc. when the QB coach was giving the group instruction. Where is the focus or show of good character? The willingness to be the best, regardless of the fact that its only a drill.

Some of the throws he was making during the drills also leave A LOT to wonder. Floaters, in-accurate, late, etc. etc.

Breaking News! Cam Newton plays with shorts! #1 indicator of NFL greatness. To put it into historical context.... Ryan Leaf played with his shorts during pre draft workouts while Peyton Manning did not. Then again Matt Ryan had 2 & 1/2 tugs on his shorts during the 2008 combine but that wasn't enough to prove he was a habitual shorts player. Also studies show that 83% of stats are made up.

If he cant perform well while in shorts, there is no way he will do better with pads.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by submoa:
cam could be metro.... looks like he shaves his arm pits:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6166674

great, he is gonna molest the center

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Cam has BUST written all over his forehead! I really hope we don't even consider getting him!

I thought he had it tattooed on his forhead

He's already running his mouth about being an icon and entertainer without ever having played one friggin snap in the NFL.... I know it was taken out of context, but s**t, who says that about themselves?

Plus his demeanor and intelligence level tells a lot about the kid. Even when doing interviews. I was playing close attention to him during yesterday's QB workouts and he was always playing with his shorts, talking to other guys, goofing off, etc. when the QB coach was giving the group instruction. Where is the focus or show of good character? The willingness to be the best, regardless of the fact that its only a drill.

Some of the throws he was making during the drills also leave A LOT to wonder. Floaters, in-accurate, late, etc. etc.

Breaking News! Cam Newton plays with shorts! #1 indicator of NFL greatness. To put it into historical context.... Ryan Leaf played with his shorts during pre draft workouts while Peyton Manning did not. Then again Matt Ryan had 2 & 1/2 tugs on his shorts during the 2008 combine but that wasn't enough to prove he was a habitual shorts player. Also studies show that 83% of stats are made up.

If he cant perform well while in shorts, there is no way he will do better with pads.

I was talking about the "playing with his shorts" comment not playing with shorts on....

Originally posted by valrod33:
Wesley Bunting WesBunting

Radio host says a tape exists that implicates Cam Newton in pay-for-play scheme | National Football Post http://t.co/i2Al37q

Originally posted by valrod33:
Wesley Bunting WesBunting

Radio host says a tape exists that implicates Cam Newton in pay-for-play scheme | National Football Post http://t.co/i2Al37q

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According to Barrett Sallee of CollegeFootballNews.com, however, Moore contradicted himself regarding the amount supposedly offered by Tennessee. In an interview on Mississippi-based 1st Call with Matt Wyatt one day before the interview in Mobile, Moore stated that Tennessee offered $150,000 for Newton’s services and not $200,000.

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Moore proclaimed the NCAA heard at least some of the tapes last fall before Auburn declared Newton ineligible and the NCAA quickly reinstated him without conditions. If the NCAA found no wrongdoing, then what's the problem? Did the governing body hear all of the tapes?