Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama | Page 56

adrianlesnar · 2018-11-03T20:07:22-07:00

Went into the Bama LSU game liking Brumfield at guard. Left the game being amazed by Quinnen Williams. This might get me crucified here but....what if we pick 3rd or 4th (raiders, giants, arizona), Bosa is gone, and there are no trade back opportunities. Do we reach on a ER just to fill a need? I say we take best player available. I know I know, IDL in the first...AGAIN. But Armstead is walking, and Solly might net something in a trade. We can move Buck to big end, which will have him lined up like a 3-4 DE, and not at all a position he is inexperienced at. He can actually play the Bennet roll, and move inside in nickel, but Williams will be our three down 3T. Do we pass on potential Aaron Donald level production and game wrecking ability, just to reach on an ER? We can use our 2nd to get whoever is left out of Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, Brian Burns, Clellin Ferrell, and Jachai Polite, even if we need to trade up slightly. And then theres still later picks like Chase Winovich, and FA options. I have a feeling I know which posters will agree with me, and which will hate this idea, but what say you?!

Jan 1, 2019 at 10:26 AM

#826

gold49digger
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
I don't see the point in trading down when there are two elite prospects and we are in a position to land one of them. We take whichever one is left and if it is Williams then we address edge in FA and later in the draft.

We are not the Jets or Cards, we are only picking this high due to the slew of injuries which befell us, including our stud QB and RB. When you get "lucky" like this in the draft, you take the elite prospect unless someone goes crazy for a QB and makes you an offer you can't refuse.

This. If there were a definitive number 2 edge behind Bosa we should take him but Quinnen is possibly the best player in this draft so it would be hard to pass him up.

Jan 1, 2019 at 1:39 PM

#827

flynhayn15
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
That's the point. The team needs to upgrade Watson and Marsh much more than the only position of strength on the team.

You go by what a draft board looks like, not what you wished it looks like.

Draft boards are never set in December for a reason. I personally don't think the gap between the top two and everyone else is as big as you think it is. Remember how big the gap was between Clowney and Mack the December before the draft?

Jan 1, 2019 at 1:40 PM

#828

okdkid
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Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
That's the point. The team needs to upgrade Watson and Marsh much more than the only position of strength on the team.

You go by what a draft board looks like, not what you wished it looks like.

Draft boards are never set in December for a reason. I personally don't think the gap between the top two and everyone else is as big as you think it is. Remember how big the gap was between Clowney and Mack the December before the draft?

You're right.

Bosa/Williams/Allen are all very close overall.

Jan 1, 2019 at 2:27 PM

#829

Nastastical
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Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
That's the point. The team needs to upgrade Watson and Marsh much more than the only position of strength on the team.

You go by what a draft board looks like, not what you wished it looks like.

Draft boards are never set in December for a reason. I personally don't think the gap between the top two and everyone else is as big as you think it is. Remember how big the gap was between Clowney and Mack the December before the draft?

You're right.

Bosa/Williams/Allen are all very close overall.

IMO I don't think they are just yet, but there is a ton of time to change that.

[ Edited by Nastastical on Jan 1, 2019 at 2:28 PM ]

Jan 1, 2019 at 2:41 PM

#830

LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
I don't see the point in trading down when there are two elite prospects and we are in a position to land one of them. We take whichever one is left and if it is Williams then we address edge in FA and later in the draft.

We are not the Jets or Cards, we are only picking this high due to the slew of injuries which befell us, including our stud QB and RB. When you get "lucky" like this in the draft, you take the elite prospect unless someone goes crazy for a QB and makes you an offer you can't refuse.

This. If there were a definitive number 2 edge behind Bosa we should take him but Quinnen is possibly the best player in this draft so it would be hard to pass him up.

Agree

IMO, he will be an instant IMPACT player and only get better s time goes on.

Jan 2, 2019 at 4:49 AM

#831

Dshearn
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
That's the point. The team needs to upgrade Watson and Marsh much more than the only position of strength on the team.

You go by what a draft board looks like, not what you wished it looks like.

Draft boards are never set in December for a reason. I personally don't think the gap between the top two and everyone else is as big as you think it is. Remember how big the gap was between Clowney and Mack the December before the draft?

You're right.

Bosa/Williams/Allen are all very close overall.

I think williams is a generational player and goes first. The only reason his sack numbers were not higher is the fact it took Saban a minute to figure out he had a 3 down player. The dude spent a lot of games on the sideline on 3rd down.

Jan 2, 2019 at 4:53 AM

#832

Ensatsu
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Its a very good thing that Lynch, Kyle and Saleh will get an extremely close look at Josh Allen at the Sr. Bowl.

If they're not absolutely blown away by him as an edge prospect, then I don't see how they pass up QW.

Them coaching there will probably make them even more critical of players faults

Jan 2, 2019 at 6:18 AM

#833

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think williams is a generational player and goes first. The only reason his sack numbers were not higher is the fact it took Saban a minute to figure out he had a 3 down player. The dude spent a lot of games on the sideline on 3rd down.

How "generational" we talking? That word gets overused lol.

Jan 2, 2019 at 6:44 AM

#834

Heroism
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think williams is a generational

[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 2, 2019 at 6:45 AM ]

Jan 2, 2019 at 7:13 AM

#835

illinois9er
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think williams is a generational player and goes first. The only reason his sack numbers were not higher is the fact it took Saban a minute to figure out he had a 3 down player. The dude spent a lot of games on the sideline on 3rd down.

How "generational" we talking? That word gets overused lol.

Are we talking Fournette generational?!?!

Jan 2, 2019 at 7:31 AM

#836

mayo49
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I wouldn't be surprised come draft day that the Cards go QWill.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 2, 2019 at 8:05 AM ]

Jan 2, 2019 at 7:33 AM

#837

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I watched most of bamas games this year cause I love Tua, Williams is an absolute monster. He is also very well developed as a player, doesn't just rely on natural ability. He is someone that can be a pro bowler his rookie year and would be a massive plus for our defense.

Idk who we are going to pick but I wouldn't be upset if it was him

[ Edited by tankle104 on Jan 2, 2019 at 9:08 AM ]

Jan 2, 2019 at 8:45 AM

#838

BigBug415
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Originally posted by tankle104:
I watched most of bamas games this year cause I love Tua, Williams is an absolute monster. He is also very well developed as a player, doesn't just reply on natural ability. He is someone that can be a pro bowler his rookie year and would be a massive plus for our defense.

Idk who we are going to pick but I wouldn't be upset if it was him

I agree. 💯👍

Jan 2, 2019 at 8:48 AM

#839

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Jan 2, 2019 at 8:54 AM

#840

genus49
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think williams is a generational

Lmao...perfect gif.