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DK Metcalf

I've watched more on this kid, He's wicked good.

My guess is after the Combine etc he'll be picked in the teens easy. If he falls anywhere past that we should do what it takes to move up and get him.

(Assuming we pick #1 and draft defense because our defense is horrific)
Calvin Johnson was a freak. AJ Green is a stud. Julio Jones is amazing. Odell Beckham. Randy Moss. Larry Fitzgerald. All first rounders. All likely to make the Hall. No SB wins.

I'll trust in Shanny to get production out of anyone on the offensive side of the ball. We need defensive playmakers.
Originally posted by midrdan:
Calvin Johnson was a freak. AJ Green is a stud. Julio Jones is amazing. Odell Beckham. Randy Moss. Larry Fitzgerald. All first rounders. All likely to make the Hall. No SB wins.

I'll trust in Shanny to get production out of anyone on the offensive side of the ball. We need defensive playmakers.

You make a good point, but when you have a legit qb, a true #1 WR puts an offense over the top.

Now we're nowhere near being a complete "team" and I would rather build the defense and upgrade the o-line first, but it's one of those keep him in the corner of your eye types.

If the opportunity is there to snag what may be a huge upgrade at wr we should look at it in comparison to other options (talking draft here after our first pick)
Is it possible this guy is there for the 49ers at the top of the 2nd?
Originally posted by daragon:
Is it possible this guy is there for the 49ers at the top of the 2nd?

no chance, but we can hope and pray.
Originally posted by Dman11:
Originally posted by daragon:
Is it possible this guy is there for the 49ers at the top of the 2nd?

no chance, but we can hope and pray.

Usually anyone we're talking about now will end up top ten by draft day.
Dream scenario of mine would be to take Bosa and 1 of Metcalf, Harmon or Harry fall to their 2 round pick, yes it's a dream, I know..
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Dream scenario of mine would be to take Bosa and 1 of Metcalf, Harmon or Harry fall to their 2 round pick, yes it's a dream, I know..

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I've been a fan of SF since 1970. Mom took myself and 4 brothers to Dallas vs SF at Kezar stadium.
We had John Brodie, Steve Spurrier, George Mira for QBs "all where Heisman winners. The only receiver
I remember from that game was Ted Kwalick TE and Gene Washington WR. We had the leagues best defense and Dallas was #2.
Dick Nolan had just come over from Dallas where he was the defensive coordinator and took the head coaching job.

The game I was at was awesome. We were on the home side at the 35 yard line. I remember hearing the players yelling
back and forth at each other. We were ahead 28 to 0 at one point and lost 35 to 28.

We had a pretty good running game with Ken Willard up the middle but it would have made a difference if we
had another wide receiver to throw to. Maybe we would have won the championship that year. That was before
Ted Marchibroda, then Monte Clark, then our miraclus happened and Eddie Debartolo bought the team and hired Joe Thomas.
We then got Bill Walsh who understood the importance of good talent at the receiver position examples are Jerry Rice, John Taylor,
Dwight Clark, Russ Francis, Garry Johnson, etc. Even our backs could catch the ball. Earl Cooper FB, Roger Craig FB

Point is we need DK Metcalf. The guy's tape tells the story. We should not pass up on this guy no mater where we are in the draft order.
Best scenario is to trade our number one and move back a few slots to make sure we get him. We then can take the best OT available.

Round two I'd go for best corner available
Then get best safety available.
just make sure these guys have ball skills
or get free agents if there are any

Defense is the last piece of the puzzle. You have to have offense to stay in the game.
Plus it's fun to watch. I was thrilled when we went 2 - 14 in Walsh's first year with Steve Deburg.
We were a machine going up and down the field on offense.
I knew it was just a matter of time before we got the defensive guys we needed and they hauled them in
the 81 draft when we got Lott and the rest of the guys.

One more thing. Can anyone tell me who our edge rusher was in 1981 when we won the supper bowl?
we ran a 3-4
It was Dwaine Board with 0 sacks

Ronnie Lott rookie year, 1981: 7 interceptions
Dwight Hicks 1981 9 interceptions
Eric Wright : 1981 3 interceptions
Carlton Williamson: 1981 4 interceptions


Originally posted by afce:
I've been a fan of SF since 1970. Mom took myself and 4 brothers to Dallas vs SF at Kezar stadium.
We had John Brodie, Steve Spurrier, George Mira for QBs "all where Heisman winners. The only receiver
I remember from that game was Ted Kwalick TE and Gene Washington WR. We had the leagues best defense and Dallas was #2.
Dick Nolan had just come over from Dallas where he was the defensive coordinator and took the head coaching job.

The game I was at was awesome. We were on the home side at the 35 yard line. I remember hearing the players yelling
back and forth at each other. We were ahead 28 to 0 at one point and lost 35 to 28.

We had a pretty good running game with Ken Willard up the middle but it would have made a difference if we
had another wide receiver to throw to. Maybe we would have won the championship that year. That was before
Ted Marchibroda, then Monte Clark, then our miraclus happened and Eddie Debartolo bought the team and hired Joe Thomas.
We then got Bill Walsh who understood the importance of good talent at the receiver position examples are Jerry Rice, John Taylor,
Dwight Clark, Russ Francis, Garry Johnson, etc. Even our backs could catch the ball. Earl Cooper FB, Roger Craig FB

Point is we need DK Metcalf. The guy's tape tells the story. We should not pass up on this guy no mater where we are in the draft order.
Best scenario is to trade our number one and move back a few slots to make sure we get him. We then can take the best OT available.

Round two I'd go for best corner available
Then get best safety available.
just make sure these guys have ball skills
or get free agents if there are any

Defense is the last piece of the puzzle. You have to have offense to stay in the game.
Plus it's fun to watch. I was thrilled when we went 2 - 14 in Walsh's first year with Steve Deburg.
We were a machine going up and down the field on offense.
I knew it was just a matter of time before we got the defensive guys we needed and they hauled them in
the 81 draft when we got Lott and the rest of the guys.

One more thing. Can anyone tell me who our edge rusher was in 1981 when we won the supper bowl?
we ran a 3-4
It was Dwaine Board with 0 sacks

Ronnie Lott rookie year, 1981: 7 interceptions
Dwight Hicks 1981 9 interceptions
Eric Wright : 1981 3 interceptions
Carlton Williamson: 1981 4 interceptions


officially my favorite post ever.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by midrdan:
Calvin Johnson was a freak. AJ Green is a stud. Julio Jones is amazing. Odell Beckham. Randy Moss. Larry Fitzgerald. All first rounders. All likely to make the Hall. No SB wins.

I'll trust in Shanny to get production out of anyone on the offensive side of the ball. We need defensive playmakers.

You make a good point, but when you have a legit qb, a true #1 WR puts an offense over the top.

Now we're nowhere near being a complete "team" and I would rather build the defense and upgrade the o-line first, but it's one of those keep him in the corner of your eye types.

If the opportunity is there to snag what may be a huge upgrade at wr we should look at it in comparison to other options (talking draft here after our first pick)

This is true. One major difference between Jerry Rice and all the other top all time receivers is who he had throwing to him. A top flight receiver + top fight QB is a wicked combination. I've never been on the we need a #1 receiver bandwagon, but if one is in reach, why not?
Originally posted by Dman11:
Originally posted by afce:
I've been a fan of SF since 1970. Mom took myself and 4 brothers to Dallas vs SF at Kezar stadium.
We had John Brodie, Steve Spurrier, George Mira for QBs "all where Heisman winners. The only receiver
I remember from that game was Ted Kwalick TE and Gene Washington WR. We had the leagues best defense and Dallas was #2.
Dick Nolan had just come over from Dallas where he was the defensive coordinator and took the head coaching job.

The game I was at was awesome. We were on the home side at the 35 yard line. I remember hearing the players yelling
back and forth at each other. We were ahead 28 to 0 at one point and lost 35 to 28.

We had a pretty good running game with Ken Willard up the middle but it would have made a difference if we
had another wide receiver to throw to. Maybe we would have won the championship that year. That was before
Ted Marchibroda, then Monte Clark, then our miraclus happened and Eddie Debartolo bought the team and hired Joe Thomas.
We then got Bill Walsh who understood the importance of good talent at the receiver position examples are Jerry Rice, John Taylor,
Dwight Clark, Russ Francis, Garry Johnson, etc. Even our backs could catch the ball. Earl Cooper FB, Roger Craig FB

Point is we need DK Metcalf. The guy's tape tells the story. We should not pass up on this guy no mater where we are in the draft order.
Best scenario is to trade our number one and move back a few slots to make sure we get him. We then can take the best OT available.

Round two I'd go for best corner available
Then get best safety available.
just make sure these guys have ball skills
or get free agents if there are any

Defense is the last piece of the puzzle. You have to have offense to stay in the game.
Plus it's fun to watch. I was thrilled when we went 2 - 14 in Walsh's first year with Steve Deburg.
We were a machine going up and down the field on offense.
I knew it was just a matter of time before we got the defensive guys we needed and they hauled them in
the 81 draft when we got Lott and the rest of the guys.

One more thing. Can anyone tell me who our edge rusher was in 1981 when we won the supper bowl?
we ran a 3-4
It was Dwaine Board with 0 sacks

Ronnie Lott rookie year, 1981: 7 interceptions
Dwight Hicks 1981 9 interceptions
Eric Wright : 1981 3 interceptions
Carlton Williamson: 1981 4 interceptions


officially my favorite post ever.

So what was Fred Dean's role?
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If Shanny has a hard on for this guy, you can believe he'll get him AND we'll still get an (impactful) ER.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
So what was Fred Dean's role?

Um, he didn't play for the Niners in '81 or for quite some time then.

Afce doesn't take into account the great backfield, nor the changing nature of the game. We can pick up receivers, tight ends, whatever, later. A genuine franchise-class edge is rare and hard to come by. Bosa will transform our D.
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