Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by evil:

If edge rusher is not a position to spend top money on, then why do elite edge rushers make more than elite linebackers and elite defensive backs?

Why do the very good to elite edge rushers they rarely if ever hit the open market in their prime?

Why is edge rusher widely considered a premium position and the most important outside of QB?

All facts evil, the market is what dictates those things. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's right way to go about building a winning team tho

Many were surprised Dorsey passed on Chubb for ward but he's sharp and knows how to build a winner

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
So true

If the earth was round, you wouldn't be able to see boats on the horizon; If his last name wasn't Bosa, you wouldn't want him.

All space photos are CGI; All of Bosa's plays are against bad tackles.

We haven't returned to the moon since 1969 because we never went; Bosa didn't return to the field because he's a quitter.

All NASA astronauts are globalist shills; All draftniks are Bosa agent shills.

Hahahahahahaha

When we had no chance at Bosa people b***hed about not having a shot, now it's a possibility and the skeptics are making up weird claims.

It truly is frustrating to read some of this stuff.

This is true. Back when we beat Denver and then Seattle, seems like there was a total meltdown and the front office/KS totally messed up tanking for Bosa. Now it seems a very large minority are totally convinced that Bosa isn't worth the number 2 pick.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by evil:

If edge rusher is not a position to spend top money on, then why do elite edge rushers make more than elite linebackers and elite defensive backs?

Why do the very good to elite edge rushers they rarely if ever hit the open market in their prime?

Why is edge rusher widely considered a premium position and the most important outside of QB?

All facts evil, the market is what dictates those things. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's right way to go about building a winning team tho

Many were surprised Dorsey passed on Chubb for ward but he's sharp and knows how to build a winner

He also had his team invest the #1 pick in the same position as Chubb the year before.

We have an opportunity to get an elite pass rusher (a general consensus). We cannot pass that up. Now if we're able to get 2 ERs this offseason, then great!!

Don't over think this. Take bosa at 2

Originally posted by cjsmoove:

Could Josh Allen go number 1,,??

I don't even think he goes top 3.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by evil:

If edge rusher is not a position to spend top money on, then why do elite edge rushers make more than elite linebackers and elite defensive backs?

Why do the very good to elite edge rushers they rarely if ever hit the open market in their prime?

Why is edge rusher widely considered a premium position and the most important outside of QB?

All facts evil, the market is what dictates those things. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's right way to go about building a winning team tho

Many were surprised Dorsey passed on Chubb for ward but he's sharp and knows how to build a winner

He also had his team invest the #1 pick in the same position as Chubb the year before.

We have an opportunity to get an elite pass rusher (a general consensus). We cannot pass that up. Now if we're able to get 2 ERs this offseason, then great!!

This. And the market dictates it as such because it is as such.


Clearly Bo is trolling this thread in an attempt to rile others up. He has offered up nothing to back up his claims.

Originally posted by bopicksix:
And they won't pay flowers either, hence they don't pay the premium that the market fetches at the position. Draft wise, Premium capital as in a #2 which is worth 2+ mid round 1sts and some

yeah,...but look who they have had @ QB for a couple decades. That kinda plays into that

Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
I just personally want trade down to around 4-5 and grab a few extra picks

Yeah but just what exactly has Lynch done to make you trust him so much with lower picks? This isin't Bill Walsh we're talking about.

He's fumbled enough with picks,...when I'm #2 in the draft and my staff is inexperienced at this point in drafting good players consistently,...I want the guy that's closer to a guarantee.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Allen gets a f**k ton of unblocked sacks with lesser flim? Also, I didn't know injuries were hereditary? He's not a better pass rusher at this pt just isn't.

Lol,...who on that Kentucky defense was drawing all of the attention then,...thus, freeing up Allen??

The thing about Allen is you KNEW he was the impact player on their team,...whereas Bosa was fortunate to play with much more talent on his side of the ball. Allen dominated anyway.

Penalizing speedrushers for "free sacks" is akin to penalizing WRs and QBs for completions with "no/little coverage."

It just doesn't make sense,...and the battles Allen has won at the highest % in FBS when he was "covered" is completely inexplainable via your "free sacks" theory.

Player after player after player has said that Allen is HELL to match up with and the best player they played against in the SEC. Not that he's sneaky and likes to cheat his way into getting his sack numbers up,...lol. If you like Bosa more,...that's fine. Just don't make up silly stuff off the top of your head to justify it.

Originally posted by evil:

This. And the market dictates it as such because it is as such.


Clearly Bo is trolling this thread in an attempt to rile others up. He has offered up nothing to back up his claims.

Just sharing my opinion and I have backed it up with legitimate examples. Not sure why it bothers so many people that others have an opinion that is not shared by the majority. Youve made some valid points which is why I even bothered responding to you. Agree to disagree

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

He also had his team invest the #1 pick in the same position as Chubb the year before.

We have an opportunity to get an elite pass rusher (a general consensus). We cannot pass that up. Now if we're able to get 2 ERs this offseason, then great!!

I think Dorsey picked mahamoes in the first round that year. It was a good pick

Originally posted by cjsmoove:

Could Josh Allen go number 1,,??

I really doubt it.

My guess is ARI selects Murray or the raiders trade up and select Murray.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

He also had his team invest the #1 pick in the same position as Chubb the year before.

We have an opportunity to get an elite pass rusher (a general consensus). We cannot pass that up. Now if we're able to get 2 ERs this offseason, then great!!

I think Dorsey picked mahamoes in the first round that year. It was a good pick

Mahomes was a wild card. He was picked 10th overall if I remember correctly. Had evaluators known how good he was going to be, he's be 1st overall.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Pressure up the middle is certainly more of a challenge for opposing qbs, so yes finding a dominant IDL, fast/ versitile mlbs/safety's and elite corner/s is first order of business,, theeenn piece in some easy to find, inexpensive, highly productive talent at edge

Duh gais, fill every single defensive position with prowbowl caliber player first. then find your measly edge. First order of business is to fill literally every other position. Then find the highly productive easy to find inexpensive guy, because you know, theres tons of highly productive guys who are inexpensive. You're sitting there typing that the market dictates the cost of these edge rushers....you realise you're saying supply and demand...right?!?!? If high productivity guys were easy to find, then they really would be inexpensive

Originally posted by ayleswbj11:

I just personally want trade down to around 4-5 and grab a few extra picks

I agree, IF they get a great offer it's best to trade down