Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by nicedraw94080:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by nicedraw94080:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by nicedraw94080:
Let me guess , Pippen should be in this picture too?
No. It's that...
1) Some of the people included are ridiculous. Dan Majerle, Rik Smits, John Starks? Was Hersey Hawkins not available?
2) The Bulls won 6 titles. Most of the legit players in that pic had careers that spanned 2-3 times that long. I mean hell, Stockton & Malone were together for EIGHTEEN YEARS and only won the West twice. But it was MJ and MJ alone that prevented them from winning titles.
Most of these players were scoring guards. Just so happens Jordan was lucky to be in a league without any dominant Front Court players and the ones who were supremely dominant were power forwards in the West who ended up knocking each other out and even their teams had undersized Guards.
Jordan was the lucky one?
Yet, Jordan was the guard that never had any dominant front court players on his championship rosters besides maybe Rodman who was one dimensional.
Oh, you mean in a league with very little front court domination? Yes, he was lucky to be in his prime in the 90's. I'm not saying he isn't a top 3 player of all time. Personally, I don't think he's the best player ever. He doesn't win 6 if he were in his prime in the 80's.
Take a look at Kobe, who would have won more than 5 rings if it weren't for a dominant big man named Tim Duncan. Jordan never had to deal with that kind of player. You can say Ewing all you want but at that point, Ewing was nothing more than a 10 foot shooter who occasionally took it in strong.
Now, where was all the talent during Jordan's ear? In the West where they all battled each other out and sometimes out of contention such as Hakeem and Robinson. What happened the year after Jordan's second retirement. The "great" team he battled against in the East playoffs, the Knicks, went to the Finals (without Ewing) and got beat down by the Spurs.
Jordan was fortunate enough that all the talent was in the Western Conference and when it came to the Finals, the Bulls had favorable mathups. Kobe/Shaq Lakers would have beaten some of those Bulls teams and so would have the Spurs.
Oh god. The years Tim won 2 of his titles were 05 and 07 when the Lakers were not even in contention. The reason Kobe didnt win those years arent because of Tim Duncan, it's because of the fact that he let Shaq leave and LA didnt replace him until Pau Gasol came along. The only year Duncan straight up cockblocked Kobe is 2003. The other years SA won (99 lockout year) was before Kobe established himself as a great player, and when Kobe had no help, which was partially Kobe's own fault.
I will go ahead and say that if the Bulls had come back for 99 with Jordan/Pippen/Rodman and played in the lockout year they would've won it again over DRob/Timmy.