Sacramento Kings 2009-2010 thread

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Opinions are like a55holes, everyone has one. Evans is ROY because he has been the best all year. Curry has had the best second half. They are both special. Jennings, Collison or whoever else isn't even on their level.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Opinions are like a55holes, everyone has one. Evans is ROY because he has been the best all year. Curry has had the best second half. They are both special. Jennings, Collison or whoever else isn't even on their level.

Thats it though. Yes Curry has been good the 2nd half, but he's not been better in the 2nd half either. He's much more inconsistant, then add the fact that Evans has almost had 3 triple doubles in 4 games.

Really not that bad of a game. But a couple frustrating things...

- Nobody stepping up with Tyreke. Couldn't find another player to get hot. Reke was doing everything he could and we had plenty of open shots. But not one person stepped up.

- Free throw shooting. The Lakers were poor as well, but this has been an ongoing problem for us, especially down the stretch. 71% isn't terrible, but it needs to be improved.

- Second chance points. We don't have a single guy right now who will just rip a rebound. I mean secure a damn rebound. Not tip it over there, or weakly grab it. Rip the damn ball down. Could have used Brockman so many times over the past few weeks.

Other than that, you just tip your hat to a better team. There's just not a lot of room for error against the Lakers.

Originally posted by ninerfan21:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Opinions are like a55holes, everyone has one. Evans is ROY because he has been the best all year. Curry has had the best second half. They are both special. Jennings, Collison or whoever else isn't even on their level.

Thats it though. Yes Curry has been good the 2nd half, but he's not been better in the 2nd half either. He's much more inconsistant, then add the fact that Evans has almost had 3 triple doubles in 4 games.

It's a tossup. Both have been great in the second half. The times I have seen Curry play I have been amazed. I've seen Evans play almost every game and I know how special he is. It'll be fun to see these guys play in Northern Cali for a long time hopefully.

Originally posted by SacRock14:
Really not that bad of a game. But a couple frustrating things...

- Nobody stepping up with Tyreke. Couldn't find another player to get hot. Reke was doing everything he could and we had plenty of open shots. But not one person stepped up.

- Free throw shooting. The Lakers were poor as well, but this has been an ongoing problem for us, especially down the stretch. 71% isn't terrible, but it needs to be improved.

- Second chance points. We don't have a single guy right now who will just rip a rebound. I mean secure a damn rebound. Not tip it over there, or weakly grab it. Rip the damn ball down. Could have used Brockman so many times over the past few weeks.

Other than that, you just tip your hat to a better team. There's just not a lot of room for error against the Lakers.

This is so true. This pissed me off all game, early on Spencer had a couple rebounds taken from him... still a fun game to watch. I knew it would be competitive.

Good game, guys. You fought hard and benefited most when Kobe and Bynum were on the bench. Just came up a little short against a better team. Like most teams in the NBA, the laker bigs and their length were too much for you.

Originally posted by SacRock14:
Really not that bad of a game. But a couple frustrating things...

- Nobody stepping up with Tyreke. Couldn't find another player to get hot. Reke was doing everything he could and we had plenty of open shots. But not one person stepped up.

- Free throw shooting. The Lakers were poor as well, but this has been an ongoing problem for us, especially down the stretch. 71% isn't terrible, but it needs to be improved.

- Second chance points. We don't have a single guy right now who will just rip a rebound. I mean secure a damn rebound. Not tip it over there, or weakly grab it. Rip the damn ball down. Could have used Brockman so many times over the past few weeks.

Other than that, you just tip your hat to a better team. There's just not a lot of room for error against the Lakers.

co-signed. To be honest though usually I'd be really pissed after a loss to the lakers. But I'm not right now. IMO this was actually a good game for us, they're just the NBA champions with a more experienced team. They've been together 3 years now, starting line up all vets, the best or 2nd best player in the NBA, and we still hung with them 3 games now despite our best player being a rookie, our bigs being weak/inexperienced, being the youngest team in the league at only about 22 years average age, 3rd coach in 3 years, etc.

Do we need to get better to beat them? Hell yes. But we have a bunch of room for improvement, Casspi and Donte are both going to improve a lot, JT/Hawes should improve, we might be able to draft Cousins or Aldrich, Landry is still getting better and he's getting more comfortable as a starter, Cisco's still coming back from surgery, THIS team has only really been together for 14 games since the deadline, so I think we have a lot of room to improve. We need some more spot up shooters to benefit from Reke's penetration and we need a banger/rebounder like a Demarcus Cousins or a Cole Aldrich. But we're going to keep getting better.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Obviously that person doesnt know much about basketball or sports in general.

That person deserves to get hit by a bus. Do they know Jennings is shooting like 35%, and has had a buttload of games where he has a bunch of turnovers? He talks about Tyreke being selfish but the last game against MN he could've easily had 20 assists if we had guys who could actually shoot. The only guy who consistently knocks down the open shots Reke gets him is Cisco. Plus Jennings plays with a top 10 center, something Tyreke can't even dream of yet. Bucks are a veteran team in a much weaker conference.

As for Collison, PLEASE. He's had some good games for sure, but Tyreke is better and Collison IS a ball dominant player, except that he's a bit like CP3 and Nash in that he dribbles the ball forever looking for open players rather than to get himself open. But he can't make it happen like Tyreke can, you need a game winning shot you would rather depend on Reke to get it than Collison. Plus Reke is a better defender than Collison, and ANY other rookie. Collison's team is actually pretty good. That moron want to tell me that Okafor or Posey wouldn't play on a team like the Celtics, Heat, Spurs, etc? Because Posey was a critical player for the Cs and the Heat's championship runs the last few years, so when he says only THornton and West would play at all on playoff teams he doesn't know what he's talking about. Okafor would be an upgrade at center for a team like the spurs, would play over dampier on a team like Dallas, would help a team like the Cs who need rebounding, etc. Collison is good but Tyreke is FRANCHISE PLAYER type of good.

As for Curry, yeah he's had some sick games and he can shoot the lights out and he's a good passer. But he's just as turnover prone as Tyreke is. Then he b***hes about Nellie's crazy system but come on, if they didn't play at that pace then Curry wouldn't have as many assists and shots as he does. He wouldn't get as many open 3s. His numbers would be lower for sure. I could be wrong on this, haven't checked it myself, but I have read that the Warriors average 12-15 more posessions per game than us. If Tyreke was on that team he'd be averaging 25/7/7 already. Plus Tyreke has a few game winning plays already, he has some clutch factor to him. His team is better than the warriors record wise and so are his stats.

Yeah we might have a lot of talent, and we might not have too many wins, but we had a lot better winning % before KMart came back, and now that he's gone we started playing decently again. Plus Tyreke doesn't play with any role players. We just have a lot of young talent that is VERY inconsistent, and that's hard for a young PG like Reke. Beno's shot is on one night, and other night's he's only good for that 15 foot shot. Donte Greene is another streaky guy, and isn't a guy who can be consistently counted on to knock down open 3s yet. Casspi was that type of player earlier in the season, but he hit the rookie wall so hard it pretty much knocked him out and he's not guarenteed to hit that shot at a good clip anymore either. Udoka's a brick layer. Landry's a good offensive player, but he's a 17/7 guy and he's helped us a lot but he's only been here 13 games. Spencer is real inconsistent, he plays like a bad ass sometimes like that game earlier in the year against LA, and then other times he's non existant.

If Tyreke was playing on that hornets team with a post scorer like West who was established, 3 point shooters in Posey and Peja, a goalie in the paint in Okafor, he'd be doing better than Collison(which he already is, but he'd take it up another notch), and they'd be winning more games while CP3 is out. The guy you posted from ESPN obviously doesn't know basketball and is just another dumbass Rubio homer who wanted us to take Rubio, or he's a Jennings/Curry fan who has a vendetta against Reke because he's nearly a lock for ROY. But I wouldn't read the ESPN boards, nobody from there ever knows what the hell they're talking about.

Also, there's a difference between a talented team and a talented team full of rookies and sophmores.

Best comparison of Tyreke's footwork on the drive has been similar to Ginobli only Tyreke is a little more powerful but needs to be a better finisher.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Obviously that person doesnt know much about basketball or sports in general.

That person deserves to get hit by a bus. Do they know Jennings is shooting like 35%, and has had a buttload of games where he has a bunch of turnovers? He talks about Tyreke being selfish but the last game against MN he could've easily had 20 assists if we had guys who could actually shoot. The only guy who consistently knocks down the open shots Reke gets him is Cisco. Plus Jennings plays with a top 10 center, something Tyreke can't even dream of yet. Bucks are a veteran team in a much weaker conference.

As for Collison, PLEASE. He's had some good games for sure, but Tyreke is better and Collison IS a ball dominant player, except that he's a bit like CP3 and Nash in that he dribbles the ball forever looking for open players rather than to get himself open. But he can't make it happen like Tyreke can, you need a game winning shot you would rather depend on Reke to get it than Collison. Plus Reke is a better defender than Collison, and ANY other rookie. Collison's team is actually pretty good. That moron want to tell me that Okafor or Posey wouldn't play on a team like the Celtics, Heat, Spurs, etc? Because Posey was a critical player for the Cs and the Heat's championship runs the last few years, so when he says only THornton and West would play at all on playoff teams he doesn't know what he's talking about. Okafor would be an upgrade at center for a team like the spurs, would play over dampier on a team like Dallas, would help a team like the Cs who need rebounding, etc. Collison is good but Tyreke is FRANCHISE PLAYER type of good.

As for Curry, yeah he's had some sick games and he can shoot the lights out and he's a good passer. But he's just as turnover prone as Tyreke is. Then he b***hes about Nellie's crazy system but come on, if they didn't play at that pace then Curry wouldn't have as many assists and shots as he does. He wouldn't get as many open 3s. His numbers would be lower for sure. I could be wrong on this, haven't checked it myself, but I have read that the Warriors average 12-15 more posessions per game than us. If Tyreke was on that team he'd be averaging 25/7/7 already. Plus Tyreke has a few game winning plays already, he has some clutch factor to him. His team is better than the warriors record wise and so are his stats.

Yeah we might have a lot of talent, and we might not have too many wins, but we had a lot better winning % before KMart came back, and now that he's gone we started playing decently again. Plus Tyreke doesn't play with any role players. We just have a lot of young talent that is VERY inconsistent, and that's hard for a young PG like Reke. Beno's shot is on one night, and other night's he's only good for that 15 foot shot. Donte Greene is another streaky guy, and isn't a guy who can be consistently counted on to knock down open 3s yet. Casspi was that type of player earlier in the season, but he hit the rookie wall so hard it pretty much knocked him out and he's not guarenteed to hit that shot at a good clip anymore either. Udoka's a brick layer. Landry's a good offensive player, but he's a 17/7 guy and he's helped us a lot but he's only been here 13 games. Spencer is real inconsistent, he plays like a bad ass sometimes like that game earlier in the year against LA, and then other times he's non existant.

If Tyreke was playing on that hornets team with a post scorer like West who was established, 3 point shooters in Posey and Peja, a goalie in the paint in Okafor, he'd be doing better than Collison(which he already is, but he'd take it up another notch), and they'd be winning more games while CP3 is out. The guy you posted from ESPN obviously doesn't know basketball and is just another dumbass Rubio homer who wanted us to take Rubio, or he's a Jennings/Curry fan who has a vendetta against Reke because he's nearly a lock for ROY. But I wouldn't read the ESPN boards, nobody from there ever knows what the hell they're talking about.

Also, there's a difference between a talented team and a talented team full of rookies and sophmores.

Best comparison of Tyreke's footwork on the drive has been similar to Ginobli only Tyreke is a little more powerful but needs to be a better finisher.

Yup.

nice gif of Tyreke's amazing-ness:

that move by Tyreke on Artest

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Obviously that person doesnt know much about basketball or sports in general.

That person deserves to get hit by a bus. Do they know Jennings is shooting like 35%, and has had a buttload of games where he has a bunch of turnovers? He talks about Tyreke being selfish but the last game against MN he could've easily had 20 assists if we had guys who could actually shoot. The only guy who consistently knocks down the open shots Reke gets him is Cisco. Plus Jennings plays with a top 10 center, something Tyreke can't even dream of yet. Bucks are a veteran team in a much weaker conference.

As for Collison, PLEASE. He's had some good games for sure, but Tyreke is better and Collison IS a ball dominant player, except that he's a bit like CP3 and Nash in that he dribbles the ball forever looking for open players rather than to get himself open. But he can't make it happen like Tyreke can, you need a game winning shot you would rather depend on Reke to get it than Collison. Plus Reke is a better defender than Collison, and ANY other rookie. Collison's team is actually pretty good. That moron want to tell me that Okafor or Posey wouldn't play on a team like the Celtics, Heat, Spurs, etc? Because Posey was a critical player for the Cs and the Heat's championship runs the last few years, so when he says only THornton and West would play at all on playoff teams he doesn't know what he's talking about. Okafor would be an upgrade at center for a team like the spurs, would play over dampier on a team like Dallas, would help a team like the Cs who need rebounding, etc. Collison is good but Tyreke is FRANCHISE PLAYER type of good.

As for Curry, yeah he's had some sick games and he can shoot the lights out and he's a good passer. But he's just as turnover prone as Tyreke is. Then he b***hes about Nellie's crazy system but come on, if they didn't play at that pace then Curry wouldn't have as many assists and shots as he does. He wouldn't get as many open 3s. His numbers would be lower for sure. I could be wrong on this, haven't checked it myself, but I have read that the Warriors average 12-15 more posessions per game than us. If Tyreke was on that team he'd be averaging 25/7/7 already. Plus Tyreke has a few game winning plays already, he has some clutch factor to him. His team is better than the warriors record wise and so are his stats.

Yeah we might have a lot of talent, and we might not have too many wins, but we had a lot better winning % before KMart came back, and now that he's gone we started playing decently again. Plus Tyreke doesn't play with any role players. We just have a lot of young talent that is VERY inconsistent, and that's hard for a young PG like Reke. Beno's shot is on one night, and other night's he's only good for that 15 foot shot. Donte Greene is another streaky guy, and isn't a guy who can be consistently counted on to knock down open 3s yet. Casspi was that type of player earlier in the season, but he hit the rookie wall so hard it pretty much knocked him out and he's not guarenteed to hit that shot at a good clip anymore either. Udoka's a brick layer. Landry's a good offensive player, but he's a 17/7 guy and he's helped us a lot but he's only been here 13 games. Spencer is real inconsistent, he plays like a bad ass sometimes like that game earlier in the year against LA, and then other times he's non existant.

If Tyreke was playing on that hornets team with a post scorer like West who was established, 3 point shooters in Posey and Peja, a goalie in the paint in Okafor, he'd be doing better than Collison(which he already is, but he'd take it up another notch), and they'd be winning more games while CP3 is out. The guy you posted from ESPN obviously doesn't know basketball and is just another dumbass Rubio homer who wanted us to take Rubio, or he's a Jennings/Curry fan who has a vendetta against Reke because he's nearly a lock for ROY. But I wouldn't read the ESPN boards, nobody from there ever knows what the hell they're talking about.

I agree with you on most every point, but Evans isn't the best defensive rookie. It's Holiday at #1, and Collison at #2, IMO. Evans is decent though, and has the tools to get better, and is definitely the best rookie overall.

“Steph’s a phenomenal player, but Tyreke — that’s a grown-ass man.” -Kobe Bryant

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:
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albapepper117 (3/16/2010 at 1:10 PM) Report Violation
And the Evans bandwagon is getting really old. Curry and Collison are both better and Jennings is a winner, something that Evans certainly is NOT.

Curry's team could be good if it wasn't coached by a maniac who wouldn't even start arguably the best player on his team in Randolph and likes playing 5 players UNDER 6'7.

Collison is in an impossible position seeing as how only David West and fellow rookie Thornton could fit in a playoff rotation.

Jennings, while he has slipped significantly in the scoring category, is on a team that is suddenly in the playoff hunt, something happen suspiciously happened after Jennings arrival.

Evans just keeps finding ways to lose. There's plenty of talent on the Kings. There's no way they should be this bad. And who would want to play with Evans? He's the definition of a ball-hog and scores largely because he has the ball ALL of 40+ minutes.

Winning is what matters. Jennings is a winner.

Obviously that person doesnt know much about basketball or sports in general.

That person deserves to get hit by a bus. Do they know Jennings is shooting like 35%, and has had a buttload of games where he has a bunch of turnovers? He talks about Tyreke being selfish but the last game against MN he could've easily had 20 assists if we had guys who could actually shoot. The only guy who consistently knocks down the open shots Reke gets him is Cisco. Plus Jennings plays with a top 10 center, something Tyreke can't even dream of yet. Bucks are a veteran team in a much weaker conference.

As for Collison, PLEASE. He's had some good games for sure, but Tyreke is better and Collison IS a ball dominant player, except that he's a bit like CP3 and Nash in that he dribbles the ball forever looking for open players rather than to get himself open. But he can't make it happen like Tyreke can, you need a game winning shot you would rather depend on Reke to get it than Collison. Plus Reke is a better defender than Collison, and ANY other rookie. Collison's team is actually pretty good. That moron want to tell me that Okafor or Posey wouldn't play on a team like the Celtics, Heat, Spurs, etc? Because Posey was a critical player for the Cs and the Heat's championship runs the last few years, so when he says only THornton and West would play at all on playoff teams he doesn't know what he's talking about. Okafor would be an upgrade at center for a team like the spurs, would play over dampier on a team like Dallas, would help a team like the Cs who need rebounding, etc. Collison is good but Tyreke is FRANCHISE PLAYER type of good.

As for Curry, yeah he's had some sick games and he can shoot the lights out and he's a good passer. But he's just as turnover prone as Tyreke is. Then he b***hes about Nellie's crazy system but come on, if they didn't play at that pace then Curry wouldn't have as many assists and shots as he does. He wouldn't get as many open 3s. His numbers would be lower for sure. I could be wrong on this, haven't checked it myself, but I have read that the Warriors average 12-15 more posessions per game than us. If Tyreke was on that team he'd be averaging 25/7/7 already. Plus Tyreke has a few game winning plays already, he has some clutch factor to him. His team is better than the warriors record wise and so are his stats.

Yeah we might have a lot of talent, and we might not have too many wins, but we had a lot better winning % before KMart came back, and now that he's gone we started playing decently again. Plus Tyreke doesn't play with any role players. We just have a lot of young talent that is VERY inconsistent, and that's hard for a young PG like Reke. Beno's shot is on one night, and other night's he's only good for that 15 foot shot. Donte Greene is another streaky guy, and isn't a guy who can be consistently counted on to knock down open 3s yet. Casspi was that type of player earlier in the season, but he hit the rookie wall so hard it pretty much knocked him out and he's not guarenteed to hit that shot at a good clip anymore either. Udoka's a brick layer. Landry's a good offensive player, but he's a 17/7 guy and he's helped us a lot but he's only been here 13 games. Spencer is real inconsistent, he plays like a bad ass sometimes like that game earlier in the year against LA, and then other times he's non existant.

If Tyreke was playing on that hornets team with a post scorer like West who was established, 3 point shooters in Posey and Peja, a goalie in the paint in Okafor, he'd be doing better than Collison(which he already is, but he'd take it up another notch), and they'd be winning more games while CP3 is out. The guy you posted from ESPN obviously doesn't know basketball and is just another dumbass Rubio homer who wanted us to take Rubio, or he's a Jennings/Curry fan who has a vendetta against Reke because he's nearly a lock for ROY. But I wouldn't read the ESPN boards, nobody from there ever knows what the hell they're talking about.

I agree with you on most every point, but Evans isn't the best defensive rookie. It's Holiday at #1, and Collison at #2, IMO. Evans is decent though, and has the tools to get better, and is definitely the best rookie overall.

“Steph’s a phenomenal player, but Tyreke — that’s a grown-ass man.” -Kobe Bryant

Kobe's quote is right. I've never seen a rookie guard as physically advanced as Tyreke. It's why I knew he'd be ROY before the season began.

As far as the Curry, Tyreke argument goes. We'll see who has the better career

I am now a Kobe fan!

Originally posted by marshniners24:
I am now a Kobe fan!

Because he said something about Tyreke's ass? Always knew Kobe was sketchy