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How much info can the Packers get from Tolzien?

Scott Tolzien has a lot of information on our system....do you think he can give the Packers any intel to help limit our offense?

Wallace never really had enough time to get to know our system ...but I'm thinking Green Bay picked up these guys to pick their brains, they dont want to be humiliated again at the stick, but it's going to happen ....and after the game, either Tolzien or Wallace will be released after they served their purpose....just my 2 cents ....what ya'll think?


their 3-4 defense couldnt slow us down last year , I dont think they have any answers to what is going to be thrown at them
all of it
  • cciowa
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he can tell them anything he wants, they can not simulate what our offense can do in practice, no amount of intell from two scrub qbs can stop our line from imposing our will on them and no amount of intell from two scrub qbs will prevent rogers from laying flat on his back. in other words,, if we do what we do and take care of the things we can control,,, it just does not matter
Everything but the actual gameplan
Let the Packs study our whole playbook in a week ..not knowing which ones we're going to run on game day. Wasting their time and efforts on s**t we might not even run during the game.
Unless the 49ers have put some kind of strong computer security in place, a player (who thinks he will be cut) could copy his playbook onto a flash drive and take it with him when he leaves.

A copy of the 49er playbook would be a valuable thing to have to "sell" to a new team.

I know I am looking at things from with dark, unethical point of view, but I think you have to think about the risks, when you choose to provide the players with iPads to hold the playbook.
There's no way in hell they'll have the Niner play book crammed in a week's time. Even if that were remotely possible, it says nothing about the Pack's defense's ability to execute on the level of our offense. It's not as though we were the only team to expose their horrible defense last year.
Realistically, he probably knows last year's playbook, along with the language and signals of the base formations. However I'm pretty sure it's all been revamped, and the new playbook isn't given out along with the specific gameplan until the coaches have chosen their QBs. That said I have zero doubt that the coaching staff have already thought this out, and the fact that releasing tenured QBs is nothing new in the league.
Now more than ever, every player that leaves our team is an "informant" it seems like. Wasn't this the case in the past? He can give them some intel, but the gameplan changes every week. The audible calls, etc. Do you guys think Tolzien can give them a real advantage?
Originally posted by davidb:
Unless the 49ers have put some kind of strong computer security in place, a player (who thinks he will be cut) could copy his playbook onto a flash drive and take it with him when he leaves.

A copy of the 49er playbook would be a valuable thing to have to "sell" to a new team.

I know I am looking at things from with dark, unethical point of view, but I think you have to think about the risks, when you choose to provide the players with iPads to hold the playbook.

it really depends on how the iOS app is set up. it's not as easy as you think it is to copy the info to a flash drive.
  • Chico
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i'm sure our coaches are way ahead of them. They are showing similar formations & running different plays. it's a chess match. Plus, even if they know our plays, it's a matter of executing and stopping our BEAST of players...you might be able to contain them, but you CAN'T stop them! lol
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by davidb:
Unless the 49ers have put some kind of strong computer security in place, a player (who thinks he will be cut) could copy his playbook onto a flash drive and take it with him when he leaves.

A copy of the 49er playbook would be a valuable thing to have to "sell" to a new team.

I know I am looking at things from with dark, unethical point of view, but I think you have to think about the risks, when you choose to provide the players with iPads to hold the playbook.

it really depends on how the iOS app is set up. it's not as easy as you think it is to copy the info to a flash drive.

No way in hell an NFL team wouldn't think of that. There has to be security measures in place. If not, every teams playbook would be floating around the league.
[ Edited by sacniner on Sep 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM ]
Originally posted by davidb:
Unless the 49ers have put some kind of strong computer security in place, a player (who thinks he will be cut) could copy his playbook onto a flash drive and take it with him when he leaves.

A copy of the 49er playbook would be a valuable thing to have to "sell" to a new team.

I know I am looking at things from with dark, unethical point of view, but I think you have to think about the risks, when you choose to provide the players with iPads to hold the playbook.

Yeah, I would bet a billion dollar company has put enough security in place to prevent players from downloading the whole playbook onto a flash drive.
Originally posted by Disp:
Yeah, I would bet a billion dollar company has put enough security in place to prevent players from downloading the whole playbook onto a flash drive.

Just like the power going out at the Supoerbowl.....as Lewis has said its a conspiracy.
There really isn't much he can give them. Yes, he can give them some insight, but he doesn't have a clue what the overall plan of attack will be be exactly. The Niners could try to do what they did in the playoff game or they can just do something completely different. Yes, he may know the playbook, but that really doesn't matter. He's not hearing the play call so that he can tip things off and by the time he reads something its too late. Its not like a game where the defense people start stealing the offensive signals which happens more at the lower levels. I know, I have done it and it can work but that info still has to be relayed onto the field quickly. In reality, they picked up Scott because he grew up in Northern Illinois, went to the University of Wisconsin and plays quarterback which Green Bay needs on the bench.

I have read how teams bring in players to pick their minds. It just really doesn't help all that much. More is learned through film study than anything.