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Hear me out... Carlos Rogers to FS?
Apr 3, 2013 at 5:18 PM
- niners789
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Draft a young safety, then grab the honey badger. The badger can return punts and cover the slot reciever, he will nuetrilize percy harvin for us. Let the rest of the corners fight for their jobs
Apr 3, 2013 at 7:05 PM
- buck
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I know that some have mentioned the possibility of Asomugha playing safety.
I read this.
The Niners do have a vacancy at strong safety with the departure of Dashon Goldson. Could Asomugha be in play there?
"No, we haven't talked about safety at all," Asomugha said. "I'm playing corner."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000157129/article/nnamdi-asomugha-i-have-a-bigger-chip-on-my-shoulder
I read this.
The Niners do have a vacancy at strong safety with the departure of Dashon Goldson. Could Asomugha be in play there?
"No, we haven't talked about safety at all," Asomugha said. "I'm playing corner."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000157129/article/nnamdi-asomugha-i-have-a-bigger-chip-on-my-shoulder
Apr 3, 2013 at 7:38 PM
- TheRickestRick
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I know its delusional but Im subscribing to the idea that there is a handshake agreement with Woodson that if the Niners feel uncomfortable at safety with the rookie they draft then they will bring him in.
Apr 3, 2013 at 7:48 PM
- KegBert
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Everyone to FS
Apr 3, 2013 at 9:46 PM
- Donnies49ers
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Originally posted by Antix:Lol. I swear every single year people start talking about moving one of our corners to safety and every year it doesn't happen. I just don't know why this concept is so popular around here.
It only happens when an elite corner gets old usually they go to a nickel....Ronnie Lott is hard to forget!
Apr 3, 2013 at 11:08 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by amg1713:
How many CBs have actually made the successful transition to safety? I think people undervalue how difficult playing safety actually is. You can't just take every aging corner and throw him in at safety and expect it to be a magical fit.
Ronnie Lott, Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, Aeneas Williams, LeRoy Butler, Troy Vincent, Ronde Barber ... It's happened a few times in the past.
Deion finished his career at FS, the Bengals moved Nate Clements to FS last year and Glover Quinn (who just signed a nice free agent deal with Detroit) started his career as a CB before making the move. It's clearly not always successful, but it is fairly common.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Apr 3, 2013 at 11:09 PM ]
Apr 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM
- LoneWolf
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We should move Kaep to center
Apr 3, 2013 at 11:35 PM
- Garce
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Originally posted by LoneWolf:
We should move Kaep to center
Kaep is ideal size for left tackle.
with defensive ends getting smaller and faster, he has the footwork and speed to keep up with him
not only that, hes strong as an ox.
Apr 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM
- martysofresh
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Originally posted by blm7754:
Culliver and Asomugha both have college experience at safety. They would be the candidates to move to FS... if anybody changes position.
I do see a bit of a log jam coming at CB. We will most definitely draft a slot CB. I'm calling it now, B.W. Webb will be a 49er. That would leave us with the following CBs:
Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Asomugha, Webb, Cox, and Brock.
We will only keep 5 of those guys, unless somebody switches to FS. Cox and Brock are both very good players, just not quite good enough to crack into our starting lineup. Brock is a great special teamer and Cox is young and very talented.
Tough decisions... there are no clear-cut starters IMO. Depth is very strong. Rogers has the biggest cap figure, but wouldn't provide too much relief if cut.
Webb is kinda who I want too. Ive been sayin it to my friends for the last couple of weeks. I think Cox gets the boot tho. Brock has the ST vaule but Cox is the better corner IMO. Rogers wouldnt save much if we cut him tho. Webb would be solid. Get a couple of safties, one to start and one back up Whitner
Apr 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM
- WildBill
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NA is not going to safety simply because he is at his best when in press coverage. If he has to play a zone coverage which is generally what the free safety does many times, he will be not as effective and misused.
Want to have a clearer idea on what the niners are going to do this year? Watch what they draft first and when. Will they take a Safety first or a CB. Then after the preseason is done you will also have an idea of what the niners were thinking. Don't think that they won't put Culliver or Carlos or even be satisfied with Dahl, these are the same people that took a DE and turned him into a FB. Many people didn't think much of Carlos when we got him, but he had a great first year. Dahl could turn out like that and surprise people. If they (brass) feel they have the talent and can do the job, they will do so. We are looking to next year, but right now the eye is on this year even though we will lose a lot of secondary help next year. The SB is within reach.
That is why I am for trading a couple of the picks if the option presents itself to gather higher round picks next year. Especially for rounds where we have comp picks, trade the non comp picks to move up or higher picks the following year. Then use the comp picks to grab sleepers that are big hit or miss (like a small school player) or had some injury baggage that dropped them like SC's RB.
Want to have a clearer idea on what the niners are going to do this year? Watch what they draft first and when. Will they take a Safety first or a CB. Then after the preseason is done you will also have an idea of what the niners were thinking. Don't think that they won't put Culliver or Carlos or even be satisfied with Dahl, these are the same people that took a DE and turned him into a FB. Many people didn't think much of Carlos when we got him, but he had a great first year. Dahl could turn out like that and surprise people. If they (brass) feel they have the talent and can do the job, they will do so. We are looking to next year, but right now the eye is on this year even though we will lose a lot of secondary help next year. The SB is within reach.
That is why I am for trading a couple of the picks if the option presents itself to gather higher round picks next year. Especially for rounds where we have comp picks, trade the non comp picks to move up or higher picks the following year. Then use the comp picks to grab sleepers that are big hit or miss (like a small school player) or had some injury baggage that dropped them like SC's RB.
Apr 4, 2013 at 1:56 AM
- WildBill
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Originally posted by Donnies49ers:
It only happens when an elite corner gets old usually they go to a nickel....Ronnie Lott is hard to forget!
Ronnie Lott was slow as molassas, but he was a student of the game. That is why a veteran CB that have been around can usually make the trasition if they are willing. There experience gives them that ability to see things in the pass situation, especially when they sit back there, they can see or read things that develope. The other key is that they know what their teammates tendencies are.
What I find funny is that the fans want a perfect cb, which doesn't exist. As good as Dieon was in the season he was with us, Jerry Rice and John Taylor owned him. Dieon would have a harder time compared to Lott cause Dieon relied on his physical talent where are Lott used not only his physicality but his mind. A lot of people get caught up in numbers at the combine, but if the person that is a student of the game will last longer cause they know what to do so that they are not that often out of position.
Apr 4, 2013 at 2:01 AM
- WildBill
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
^ the elephant in the room that no one is talking about = do you you really want a rookie starting at FS as we make our SB run?!?
Carlton Williamson started at SS as a rookie while Dwight Hicks a journeyman FA started FS when the niners won their first SB along with rookies Eric Wright and a guy named Ronnie Lott playing the corners.
Apr 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by WildBill:I think that was also Dwight Hicks' first assignment as a starter that season as well. There wasn't much experience back there and they tore up the league.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
^ the elephant in the room that no one is talking about = do you you really want a rookie starting at FS as we make our SB run?!?
Carlton Williamson started at SS as a rookie while Dwight Hicks a journeyman FA started FS when the niners won their first SB along with rookies Eric Wright and a guy named Ronnie Lott playing the corners.
Apr 4, 2013 at 9:32 AM
- Tman
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Bring in Manny Lawson
Apr 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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WTF is with people and CB's at Safety? Clements, Rogers, Nnamdi, Cullive, just STFU this isnt madden!!