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Baalke made 2 errors this offseason

I disagree. Gamble gave us great years and was greatly respected. It was the right thing to do with letting Gamble go home. It was Gambles dream job.
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Baalke has been great and getting 2 good draft picks for Smith was incredible but he's made 2 mistakes this offseason. The first was letting Tom Gamble leave and take a lateral position with the Eagles. The 2nd was not placing the franchise tag on Goldson. It's fine if he didn't want to give Goldson a longterm commitment but with a team ready for another super bowl run you don't start to go with rookies or players who don't know your system. Should've franchised Goldson and drafted his repacement to learn for a year. Goldson is as good as gone and Baalke let the wrong safety get out of town.

I'm not worried about the Gamble thing because Baalke knows better than any of us that he has a very deep and talented player evaluation staff.

I don't agree with the second point at all. I think Baalke understands the trend in the NFL as well as anyone. We all should be able to understand that the days of the hard-hitting safety who "blows up" receivers are coming to an end. What NFL defenses need now are cover guys. The refs are going to continue to call these unnecessary roughness penalties until that part of the game is all but gone. The NFL MUST do this because of the specter of massive lawsuits on head injuries. I think that has more to do with their reticence to pay a lot of money to Goldson than any other factor.
  • LVJay
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
LV "Jay" -- 1 post

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Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
LV "Jay" -- 1 post

"agreeing" with

Las Vegas (LV) Wally

hmmmmmmm

... yea yea, i know what it looks like, but believe me, it's pure coincidence.
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by kent:
The only issue I see with these moves is the unfortunate timing with Gamble. I would imagine that he has a pretty good idea of the 49ers draft board which would not be something you would want another team to have prior to the draft. I'm sure this was discussed before he was allowed to move on, however.

I think the draft board, assuming there is one at this point, is in such a state of flux given FA has not even begun. Gamble won't give them anything that is not already on the Internet, IMHO

Plus, we haven't had any pro days, which are HUGE.

I think there might be a "board" post combine but that is by no means the board that we will 6 weeks from now. Plus, teams bring in players, etc.
That may well be true, though GMs will typically say that the board is all but done well before the combine. Scouts having done their work and the combine/workouts resulting in only minor adjustments. They may be blowing smoke but my guess is that their boards are waaaayyy more stable than the many mocks shown by the draft "experts". I am very dubious of the "rising" and "falling" status talked about in the press. My guess is that is limited to undisclosed injuries and character issues rather than staffs "going back to the tape".
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Baalke has been great and getting 2 good draft picks for Smith was incredible but he's made 2 mistakes this offseason. The first was letting Tom Gamble leave and take a lateral position with the Eagles. The 2nd was not placing the franchise tag on Goldson. It's fine if he didn't want to give Goldson a longterm commitment but with a team ready for another super bowl run you don't start to go with rookies or players who don't know your system. Should've franchised Goldson and drafted his repacement to learn for a year. Goldson is as good as gone and Baalke let the wrong safety get out of town.

So he was supposed to force Gamble to stick with the 49ers, even if he had his heart on returning home, being in Philly where his father once held a similar position? Good luck acquiring future talent in the front office that way.
the new league year hasn't even started yet.
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the new league year hasn't even started yet.



This thread is fail
Originally posted by pickle:
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This is the smartest statement on 49ers webzone, 99% think they know what 49ers are doing enjoy reading the 99% who is employed with 49ers and letting us 1% know what is going to happen. Thank You
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
TheStick45, What I'm saying is if we can afford to bring in a Smith or Welker we could certainly afford to give Goldson a contract extension. Both Smith and Welker will be looking for a big contract.

You're assuming that they are doing anymore than just kicking rocks with those players. Baalke will do what he always does, talk to a variety of players, and then wait until the spending frenzy has died down and go for the best values still left in free agency.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 9, 2013 at 11:14 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
TheStick45, What I'm saying is if we can afford to bring in a Smith or Welker we could certainly afford to give Goldson a contract extension. Both Smith and Welker will be looking for a big contract.

You're assuming that they are doing anymore than just kicking rocks with those players. Baalke will do what he always does, talk to a variety of players, and then wait until the spending frenzy has died down and go for the best values still left in free agency.

Exactly, the only FA we signed early on was Randy Moss, but he came out of retirement and was looking for a contender like us. We will let the super contracts go by, and see what's left. After all, we signed Goldson for cheap because he didn't get the contract he wanted last year. I'm sure another player will fit the bill this year too.

Plus, I'm sure future contracts are definitely present in their minds too. Franchise guys like Kaep, Aldon, Crab, Iupati, and A. Davis will be coming up quickly. If we can get our D-line back to what is was last year and the beginning of last year, then we won't need stellar play in the secondary, it will take care of itself.
Nothing wrong with doing due diligence with free agents available at positions of need. As it relates to Goldson, I like him, but but he's the 6th best player on our defense behind Justin Smith and all of our linebackers. You can't make the 6th best player on your D the highest paid (or damn close to it) at his position. On the subject of Tom Gamble, why would he block the man from leaving? Do you want to deter quality front office people from coming to the 49ers? At the present time, I see no errors made this offseason. It looks like he won't overpay for any of our free agents, made a great trade with the Chiefs for that second round pick, and is ensuring we have enough cap space to sign/extend guys in 2013 and 2014.

There are a few things left on the checklist that he has to accomplish, but he's off to a solid start.
Goldson ain't worth what he's asking though yes he's good but not 7+mill a yr good he makez to many dumb unneeded mistakes ... I'd like to see us take a chance on Louis delmas frm details has injury problems but could come alot cheaper....
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