Baalke is great. He will look into the big name players, but if the contract demands or draft pick compensation gets to high he will bail.
There's no way we trade a 1st or 2nd for him or pay him 16mil a yr. The Jets have no leverage right now. Revis is coming off a major injury with only a year left on his contract and big demands. They've gotten to the point that they will have to trade him. Revis wants to be a 49er so hopefully he came down on his salary demands when they discussed a long term contract at the combine. I doubt it. The 49ers supposedly said they want to do something day one in FA.
That means Ballke will agree to terms with one of the other to CB's like Keenan Lewis. They then go to the Jets with a low ball offer something like a 4th and 5th this year and a 3rd next year. They take it or we sign a CB effectively closing forever the only real market for him. We'll probably go plan B and pass on him.
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Mar 7, 2013 at 6:45 AM
- jobiwon
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Mar 7, 2013 at 6:57 AM
- Youngone
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One year rental! Get us a ring then let him go!
Mar 7, 2013 at 6:57 AM
- dtg_9er
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49ers are now a team of destination desire for FAs due to their success, so Baalke doesn't have to over pay. If Revis is too expensive there are a number of other CBs who could fit into the niners defense. They do need a guy who loves supporting the run defense.
I agree with you Kolohe, that a first and second would be too high, but those are the highest numbers I've heard the pundits throw around and see that as the asking price or starting point. The real number should be lower.
I agree with you Kolohe, that a first and second would be too high, but those are the highest numbers I've heard the pundits throw around and see that as the asking price or starting point. The real number should be lower.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
If I was an NFL GM I would not give up a 1st and 2nd round pick for Revis. Difference between Revis and the Alex Smith trade is that, the QB position is far more important than good CB, also Revis holds out when he doesn't get what he wants and hes coming off a season ending injury. A 2nd round pick is thee most I would give for Revis, his trade value will drop even more so if or when Nmandi Asomugha gets released. Why push for Revis and his high demands when the market will consist of Sean Smith, Antoine Cason, Derek Cox and Quentin Jammer sure Revis is far superior but they will come much cheaper and can be #1 CBs on most teams.
Mar 7, 2013 at 7:03 AM
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So what hotel will Revis be staying in?
Mar 7, 2013 at 7:23 AM
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
So what hotel will Revis be staying in?
Same one Adalius Thomas did
Mar 7, 2013 at 8:40 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
So what hotel will Revis be staying in?
he's not a FA, no visits unless deal is done
Mar 7, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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Originally posted by socal9er42:
I was watching ESPN yesterday and they talked extensively about where Revis would go and how much it would take to get him. They were metioning at least a 1st round selection along with a late 2nd or early third and then something additional (picks /players). Going by speculation in NY and on their fan websites, it would be considerably more that what the niners got for Smith.
I'm not sure about what they could get, but there is some logic to it - arguably the best CB in the NFL is worth more on the market than a QB who, while he had a couple of good stretches, was constantly on the verge of losing his starting job on a team which, until the last two years, was in the bottom third of the league.
These posts that say he will only cost a 2nd /3rd and some late rounders confuse me.
Revis value in a vacuum would be a first and a second.
We aren't in a vacuum.
1) ACL.
2) One year on contract.
3) Can't be franchised.
4) Demanding 16 mil per year.
5) Jets are actively shopping him.
6) History of holdouts.
ALL of the above lower his value.
Mar 7, 2013 at 8:57 AM
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Originally posted by Marvin49:Originally posted by socal9er42:I was watching ESPN yesterday and they talked extensively about where Revis would go and how much it would take to get him. They were metioning at least a 1st round selection along with a late 2nd or early third and then something additional (picks /players). Going by speculation in NY and on their fan websites, it would be considerably more that what the niners got for Smith.
I'm not sure about what they could get, but there is some logic to it - arguably the best CB in the NFL is worth more on the market than a QB who, while he had a couple of good stretches, was constantly on the verge of losing his starting job on a team which, until the last two years, was in the bottom third of the league.
These posts that say he will only cost a 2nd /3rd and some late rounders confuse me.
Revis value in a vacuum would be a first and a second.
We aren't in a vacuum.
1) ACL.
2) One year on contract.
3) Can't be franchised.
4) Demanding 16 mil per year.
5) Jets are actively shopping him.
6) History of holdouts.
ALL of the above lower his value.
Yes. And there are other options for instance in the draft, whereas at the qb position, as we frequently had to remind several posters, there was very little else a qb-hungry team could do.
Mar 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM
- GNielsen
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If they're going to trade picks, I'd rather they trade to move up in the first so that they can get one of the two top corners. I agree with Grant Cohen on this - either Milliner or Rhodes (which they could probably get into the teens to select) can step right in and be a productive cover corner at a low cost with a long career ahead of him. In fact, they probably have enough picks to move up in the first and the second. They could get a top notch starting corner and one of the better defensive linemen with their first two picks that way.
Mar 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM
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Baalke's WAYYY too smart.
Marvin has a great a list and I haven't seen any other intelligent input as to why we's sign Revis.
Marvin has a great a list and I haven't seen any other intelligent input as to why we's sign Revis.
Mar 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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While I would love to have Revis as a 1 year rental, don't want to mortgage the future either. Those that bring up the Dieon Sanders effect are forgetting that we did not pay any compensation for getting him. Plus we all know even if he does make a come back the money he wants is absurbed and will affect team chemistry and cause envy. Not to mention we will need that money to resign CK who is far more valuable to our future than Revis.
Mar 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
If they're going to trade picks, I'd rather they trade to move up in the first so that they can get one of the two top corners. I agree with Grant Cohen on this - either Milliner or Rhodes (which they could probably get into the teens to select) can step right in and be a productive cover corner at a low cost with a long career ahead of him. In fact, they probably have enough picks to move up in the first and the second. They could get a top notch starting corner and one of the better defensive linemen with their first two picks that way.
Don't want to mortgage the future either, no guarentees they are as good as you think till they suit up and have to face Fritz and Megatron. Look at Patrick Peterson-high pick, just a so so corner.
Mar 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by WildBill:
Don't want to mortgage the future either, no guarentees they are as good as you think till they suit up and have to face Fritz and Megatron. Look at Patrick Peterson-high pick, just a so so corner.
Right, but there is no guarantee that Revis is still the same player he was before his injury either. At least when you roll the dice on a high draft pick at the corner position, you can be pretty sure you're going to get a starter at the lowest possible cost.
Mar 7, 2013 at 1:49 PM
- jdt84_2
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Originally posted by GNielsen:Right, but there is no guarantee that Revis is still the same player he was before his injury either. At least when you roll the dice on a high draft pick at the corner position, you can be pretty sure you're going to get a starter at the lowest possible cost.
there is no guarntee that the rookie ever becomes a steerer
Mar 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM
- HudsonValley
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by WildBill:
Don't want to mortgage the future either, no guarentees they are as good as you think till they suit up and have to face Fritz and Megatron. Look at Patrick Peterson-high pick, just a so so corner.
Right, but there is no guarantee that Revis is still the same player he was before his injury either. At least when you roll the dice on a high draft pick at the corner position, you can be pretty sure you're going to get a starter at the lowest possible cost.
In those 2 scenarios, I think Revis is the better bet. He "might" not be the same shutdown corner, but he's still an above average guy even with the knee injury that most OCs will try to pass away from. A rookie corner will need at least 2 yrs in the making, and by that time other needs will arise for this team.
We're built to win NOW, and I think we need to take advantage of this 2-3 year window. Revis is the better option, IMO.