49ers interested in trading for Revis (link provided)

Originally posted by thl408:
The more I hear about the 49ers not pursuing or interested in Revis, the more I think they are indeed interested and are pursuing Revis. Baalke has probably named his price, the Jet's GM laughed, Baalke says "call me back if you change your mind". And this is where we stand today.

Absolutely! And they need to trade him ASAP for draft picks THIS year. And now Revis himself wants out. Hold those cards closely Baalke.

FWIW . . .

Appearing on NFL Live Wednesday, ESPN's Ed Werder predicted that the Jets will not get a first-round pick for Darrelle Revis.

"I think it's unlikely that the Jets can get a No. 1 pick," said Werder. "I think a lot of teams might consider giving up a (second-round pick) or less. The Jets are dealing from a position of obvious weakness. Two reasons: He's coming off ACL surgery in the final year of his contract. (And) his contract demands really have potential suitors worried the most. Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing." In addition to the 49ers and Falcons, Werder mentioned the Bucs and Lions as potential Revis suitors.

Originally posted by DVDA:
He's worth a one year rental if the price is right. The 49ers wouldn't lose much by trading their original 2nd or one of the 3rds and some late round scraps for him. After the one year rental, Revis signs a huge deal with someone else and the 49ers get a 2nd or 3rd round comp. pick. This is the only way I see Baalke trading for him. The 49ers are smart enough to avoid paying a defensive player 16 million per year, so there is no way they trade for him as a long term solution.

Give up a 2nd rounder for a one-year rental in a draft where most of the talent is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Basically they could be foregoing a potential long-term starter at CB, NT, WR or another position for a guy coming off a major injury, one that is potentially more severe for a cornerback, with no guarantee of him performing at a high level, only to see him walk off into the sunset at the end of the season. It'd be one thing if he was not coming off the ACL tear and had just played well, but you're taking a huge risk, even if he passes all medical tests, there's a risk that he simply doesn't perform as might be expected.


Screw that.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
FWIW . . .

Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing.

This is the biggest factor IMO. Jets have s**t for leverage in this situation. Even if the Jets do trade him somewhere, there is no guarantee that his new team can get him signed to a long term deal and that he won't test the market. He cannot be franchised according to his contract, so any team acquiring him is going to be in a very risky position.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
FWIW . . .

Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing.

This is the biggest factor IMO. Jets have s**t for leverage in this situation. Even if the Jets do trade him somewhere, there is no guarantee that his new team can get him signed to a long term deal and that he won't test the market. He cannot be franchised according to his contract, so any team acquiring him is going to be in a very risky position.

...and THAT is why we are all of the sudden seeing all these reports of teams that are interested in doing a trade.

It was a NEW YORK paper who had the article this morning and now BOTH the 49ers and Falcons have responded by saying they have no interest.

Basically...the Jets are trying desparately to create a trade market where there isn't one. What that tells me is that he will in fact be traded and might be had for far less than some think.

We'll see tho.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
FWIW . . .

Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing.

This is the biggest factor IMO. Jets have s**t for leverage in this situation. Even if the Jets do trade him somewhere, there is no guarantee that his new team can get him signed to a long term deal and that he won't test the market. He cannot be franchised according to his contract, so any team acquiring him is going to be in a very risky position.

...and THAT is why we are all of the sudden seeing all these reports of teams that are interested in doing a trade.

It was a NEW YORK paper who had the article this morning and now BOTH the 49ers and Falcons have responded by saying they have no interest.

Basically...the Jets are trying desparately to create a trade market where there isn't one. What that tells me is that he will in fact be traded and might be had for far less than some think.

We'll see tho.

100% agree!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
FWIW . . .

Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing.

This is the biggest factor IMO. Jets have s**t for leverage in this situation. Even if the Jets do trade him somewhere, there is no guarantee that his new team can get him signed to a long term deal and that he won't test the market. He cannot be franchised according to his contract, so any team acquiring him is going to be in a very risky position.

...and THAT is why we are all of the sudden seeing all these reports of teams that are interested in doing a trade.

It was a NEW YORK paper who had the article this morning and now BOTH the 49ers and Falcons have responded by saying they have no interest.

Basically...the Jets are trying desparately to create a trade market where there isn't one. What that tells me is that he will in fact be traded and might be had for far less than some think.

We'll see tho.

100% agree!

Idzik (sp?) Trying to be Baalke?

Originally posted by Beeker:
Idzik (sp?) Trying to be Baalke?

LOL, that dude's armed with a penknife while Baalke's walking around with a double-barrel shotgun(No Biden).

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Beeker:
Idzik (sp?) Trying to be Baalke?

LOL, that dude's armed with a penknife while Baalke's walking around with a double-barrel shotgun(No Biden).

Good Ol' Joey!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Beeker:
Idzik (sp?) Trying to be Baalke?

LOL, that dude's armed with a penknife while Baalke's walking around with a double-barrel shotgun(No Biden).

Well...the cat is kinda out of the bag now.

The 49ers were somehow able to sell people on them wanting to keep Alex Smith and that he would NOT be vailable for free later in the offseason. Thats how they got what they got from the Chiefs.

The Jets have screwed themselves. The league now knows Revis will be traded no matter what. Revis won't be a Jet. That has screwed whatever leverage the Jets ever had.

Give em a 6th and next year's 7th. Not that we'll need em anyway.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DVDA:
He's worth a one year rental if the price is right. The 49ers wouldn't lose much by trading their original 2nd or one of the 3rds and some late round scraps for him. After the one year rental, Revis signs a huge deal with someone else and the 49ers get a 2nd or 3rd round comp. pick. This is the only way I see Baalke trading for him. The 49ers are smart enough to avoid paying a defensive player 16 million per year, so there is no way they trade for him as a long term solution.

Give up a 2nd rounder for a one-year rental in a draft where most of the talent is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Basically they could be foregoing a potential long-term starter at CB, NT, WR or another position for a guy coming off a major injury, one that is potentially more severe for a cornerback, with no guarantee of him performing at a high level, only to see him walk off into the sunset at the end of the season. It'd be one thing if he was not coming off the ACL tear and had just played well, but you're taking a huge risk, even if he passes all medical tests, there's a risk that he simply doesn't perform as might be expected.


Screw that.

Either your reading skills are lacking or you're too busy ignoring the rest of the post because you only see what you want to see. When he leaves the 49ers after one year the 49ers get a comp. pick for him. That means they would get the best corner in football in a contract year and they get a pick in the next draft. To simplify this for you:

49ers get:
Revis
2014 comp pick in 2nd or 3rd round

49ers lose:
2013 2nd or 3rd round pick
2013 late round picks

Now does this make sense to you?

Originally posted by DVDA:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DVDA:
He's worth a one year rental if the price is right. The 49ers wouldn't lose much by trading their original 2nd or one of the 3rds and some late round scraps for him. After the one year rental, Revis signs a huge deal with someone else and the 49ers get a 2nd or 3rd round comp. pick. This is the only way I see Baalke trading for him. The 49ers are smart enough to avoid paying a defensive player 16 million per year, so there is no way they trade for him as a long term solution.

Give up a 2nd rounder for a one-year rental in a draft where most of the talent is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Basically they could be foregoing a potential long-term starter at CB, NT, WR or another position for a guy coming off a major injury, one that is potentially more severe for a cornerback, with no guarantee of him performing at a high level, only to see him walk off into the sunset at the end of the season. It'd be one thing if he was not coming off the ACL tear and had just played well, but you're taking a huge risk, even if he passes all medical tests, there's a risk that he simply doesn't perform as might be expected.


Screw that.

Either your reading skills are lacking or you're too busy ignoring the rest of the post because you only see what you want to see. When he leaves the 49ers after one year the 49ers get a comp. pick for him. That means they would get the best corner in football in a contract year and they get a pick in the next draft. To simplify this for you:

49ers get:
Revis
2014 comp pick in 2nd or 3rd round

49ers lose:
2013 2nd or 3rd round pick
2013 late round picks

Now does this make sense to you?

Are there any 2nd round comp picks? I thought they go up to 3rds . But overall, it wouldn't be an awful trade, but the injury is still a big ?.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by DVDA:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DVDA:
He's worth a one year rental if the price is right. The 49ers wouldn't lose much by trading their original 2nd or one of the 3rds and some late round scraps for him. After the one year rental, Revis signs a huge deal with someone else and the 49ers get a 2nd or 3rd round comp. pick. This is the only way I see Baalke trading for him. The 49ers are smart enough to avoid paying a defensive player 16 million per year, so there is no way they trade for him as a long term solution.

Give up a 2nd rounder for a one-year rental in a draft where most of the talent is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Basically they could be foregoing a potential long-term starter at CB, NT, WR or another position for a guy coming off a major injury, one that is potentially more severe for a cornerback, with no guarantee of him performing at a high level, only to see him walk off into the sunset at the end of the season. It'd be one thing if he was not coming off the ACL tear and had just played well, but you're taking a huge risk, even if he passes all medical tests, there's a risk that he simply doesn't perform as might be expected.


Screw that.

Either your reading skills are lacking or you're too busy ignoring the rest of the post because you only see what you want to see. When he leaves the 49ers after one year the 49ers get a comp. pick for him. That means they would get the best corner in football in a contract year and they get a pick in the next draft. To simplify this for you:

49ers get:
Revis
2014 comp pick in 2nd or 3rd round

49ers lose:
2013 2nd or 3rd round pick
2013 late round picks

Now does this make sense to you?

Are there any 2nd round comp picks? I thought they go up to 3rds . But overall, it wouldn't be an awful trade, but the injury is still a big ?.

Correct...there are no 2nd round comp picks. 3rd is the highest and they are at the very end of the round.

Moreover, if you sign a free agent, you offset what you lost.

There is no guarantee of even a 3rd round pick.

Unlike most here, I'm definitely in favor of trading a 2nd or 3rd for a 1y rental of Revis. Not sure if he's our Deion of 94, but he could put us over the top nonetheless.

I think we need to be in win now mode...