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5 fumbles and a pick

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Taking a snap from under center in the rain, much heavier rain to be exact. I am always comparing him and Alex and he is doing a lot of things Alex cant/wont, I just want a clean game from him. Chicago he was perfect IMO and played the best game so far....and I rank it top 3 in games this year. I just dont want to have to worry about something that should be automatic.

Just curious. What games would you rank top three(in order..most impressive being 1)?
Bills, Chicago, Arz
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Notice how the fumble crap is only being overblown on this message board. I have not heard one NFL media outlet today that has not heaped praise on Kap and our team, not one of them is saying "oh my god , this guys the next Rex Grossman and his fumbling will cost the niners a superbowl" , honestly I havent heard anything close to that

Things like that get hidden in the news by the win..be assured if we had lost, there would have been a lot of talk about how they were all missed opportunities.

As I said, it is being mentioned..but as a "look how he overcame it"...wins do that for you.

http://www.csnne.com/football-new-england-patriots/patriots-talk/Kaepernicks-triumph-didnt-go-as-planned?blockID=814493&feedID=3352

Because of the weather, Kaepernick fumbled four snaps from center. But he recovered all of them.

"Just a wet ball, mishandling it," said Kapernick. "One hundred percent my fault."

"Yeah, we were having some difficulties there," said Harbaugh. "We just kept working at it, talking about it. The ball was hitting and squirting off [Kaepernick]'s hand. He moved his guide hand, his left hand a little further to the right, and his top hand a little further to the right, and that helped."

Kaepernick didn't let the weather affect his mindset. He also didn't let his lone interception affect him much. After getting picked off by Devin McCourty when he tried to force one down the middle of the field early in the third quarter, Kaepernick showed his confidence driving the team down field to score a touchdown. Then he went right back to the same throw two possessions later, hitting Crabtree over the middle in between two defenders for a 27-yard strike and a touchdown that put San Francisco up 31-3.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Dec 17, 2012 at 4:33 PM ]
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Things like that get hidden in the news by the win..be assured if we had lost, there would have been a lot of talk about how they were all missed opportunities.

How many QBs over the past 10 years have outplayed Brady at home in December?
The 49ers didn't lose and if they did I would imagine that the defense giving up all those TDs in a row and Akers would have been the top culprits over the 4 bungled snaps.
Originally posted by midrdan:
The original poster recognized that Kaep played great but made a legitimate comment regarding turnovers. Why are people jumping down his throat? The bottom line is the QB is young and will make mistakes, as most young QBs do. He made mistakes in the Rams game, Dolphins game, etc. We had a great team win, our QB threw exceptionally well given the weather conditions, but ball security needs to be a priority come playoffs. It is a concern that he has thrown a couple of INTs off of misreads and has fumbled almost 10 times in 5 games. If those bounces don't go our way last night, we lose. I don't want to get bounced in the playoffs because of the QB/Center exchange.

Agreed. It's not a big deal to mention a legitimate concern. We're all fans here just trying to emphasize the point that we really hope to clean up all the little mistakes that you can't have in the playoffs if you want to make a legitimate Super Bowl run.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Tom Brady didn't seem to have a problem.

How many snaps did he take under center?
Originally posted by Jakemall:
At least one qb played in the same circumstances....nice try to turn it around when I already put it on you :P Honestly, I couldn't look it up now if I wanted...work internet..amazing that I can even get here.

Has that one QB ever lost a game like this in December at home? Is that one QB arguably the best ever?
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
The fumbled snaps criticism is so overblown its ridiculous. How many of the fumbled stats can you say are definitively his fault and not the centers (or shared faults)? ZERO. The weather conditions were miserable. I am not saying I am happy with the amount the ball was on the turf yesterday, but its certainly understandable given the weather.

If you want to make criticisms about how Kap needs to take better care of the ball and hold it against his body when moving in the pocket or scrambling, fine, I can totally get behind that. But for there to be a 20 page thread about his fumbles in freezing rainy conditions? Its a joke.

How many fumbled snaps did the rest of the league have combined yesterday? I'm sure more than our game had rain... I suspect that the Colin Goodwin exchange beat them all...combined.

Go ahead and count how many games were played in 35 degree weather in a constant downpour. I'll wait.

At least one qb played in the same circumstances....nice try to turn it around when I already put it on you :P Honestly, I couldn't look it up now if I wanted...work internet..amazing that I can even get here.

I turned it around because aside from Tom Brady, there wasnt a single other QB that played in conditions that were even close to the ones Kap played in. Now if you want to compare him to Brady, thats a different story. But to compare the conditions to all the other ones which QBs played in yesterday is ridiculous.
People who go watch every play with their fingers crossed praying to god "please dont lets us make a mistake, please dont let please dont lets us make a mistakes us make a mistake, are expecting their team to make a mistake. Expecting your team to make mistakes is expecting your team to lose. Thats a loser mentality, and WE WANT WINNERS *please excuse the MS reference*
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As I said, it is being mentioned..but as a "look how he overcame it"...wins do that for you.

http://www.csnne.com/football-new-england-patriots/patriots-talk/Kaepernicks-triumph-didnt-go-as-planned?blockID=814493&feedID=3352

Because of the weather, Kaepernick fumbled four snaps from center. But he recovered all of them.

"Just a wet ball, mishandling it," said Kapernick. "One hundred percent my fault."

"Yeah, we were having some difficulties there," said Harbaugh. "We just kept working at it, talking about it. The ball was hitting and squirting off [Kaepernick]'s hand. He moved his guide hand, his left hand a little further to the right, and his top hand a little further to the right, and that helped."

Kaepernick didn't let the weather affect his mindset. He also didn't let his lone interception affect him much. After getting picked off by Devin McCourty when he tried to force one down the middle of the field early in the third quarter, Kaepernick showed his confidence driving the team down field to score a touchdown. Then he went right back to the same throw two possessions later, hitting Crabtree over the middle in between two defenders for a 27-yard strike and a touchdown that put San Francisco up 31-3.

The fact that Kaepernick overcame the snap issue, the INT, the crowd, his defense giving up points on every drive until the score was tied and overcame it all to win the game was impressive.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Taking a snap from under center in the rain, much heavier rain to be exact. I am always comparing him and Alex and he is doing a lot of things Alex cant/wont, I just want a clean game from him. Chicago he was perfect IMO and played the best game so far....and I rank it top 3 in games this year. I just dont want to have to worry about something that should be automatic.

Just curious. What games would you rank top three(in order..most impressive being 1)?
Bills, Chicago, Arz

hmm....interesting. So, the win last night, ranks below Bills and Arizona?
[ Edited by Bay2Bay9erAllday on Dec 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM ]
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Taking a snap from under center in the rain, much heavier rain to be exact. I am always comparing him and Alex and he is doing a lot of things Alex cant/wont, I just want a clean game from him. Chicago he was perfect IMO and played the best game so far....and I rank it top 3 in games this year. I just dont want to have to worry about something that should be automatic.

Just curious. What games would you rank top three(in order..most impressive being 1)?
Bills, Chicago, Arz

Would probably agree with this, just considering how the Cardinals have been embarrassing so many top QBs (not just the bad ones), but couldn't do the same to us. New England definitely in the top 5 of games though. Tremendous win, but hard to put in top 3 because of the missed opportunities, points left off the board, and little mistakes that could've been costly.
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Weather was a factor in yesterdays game if you were watching, (maybe you were listening on the radio because you dont seem to notice the weather).
So you mean to tell me that leading up to this game, your watching every other game Kap has started and your saying "dont drop the ball, dont drop he ball" then apparently thats how YOU watch games. But dont make it out to be an epidemic, youve been reaching since yesterdays win, how bout making a positive comment without a backhanded slight against Kap or the offense, I dont know if you got it in you quite frankly. Even those of us, myself included, who wanted Kap to start had to give props to alex when he balled out, or when he won a big game that was less than perfect. We get it , your skeptical of Kap, but youve never taken an NFL snap and you shouldnt generalize an experience that youll never have, and you definitely shouldnt compare your 11 year old self to a pro qb.
Its an epidemic when it happens every week. I've made many positive comments that you and others keep over looking, would you like me to repost all of them for you? FYI the kid is chasing the record for most fumbles in a season, and he hasn't played a full season.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Notice how the fumble crap is only being overblown on this message board. I have not heard one NFL media outlet today that has not heaped praise on Kap and our team, not one of them is saying "oh my god , this guys the next Rex Grossman and his fumbling will cost the niners a superbowl" , honestly I havent heard anything close to that

Things like that get hidden in the news by the win..be assured if we had lost, there would have been a lot of talk about how they were all missed opportunities.

As I said, it is being mentioned..but as a "look how he overcame it"...wins do that for you.

http://www.csnne.com/football-new-england-patriots/patriots-talk/Kaepernicks-triumph-didnt-go-as-planned?blockID=814493&feedID=3352

Because of the weather, Kaepernick fumbled four snaps from center. But he recovered all of them.

"Just a wet ball, mishandling it," said Kapernick. "One hundred percent my fault."

"Yeah, we were having some difficulties there," said Harbaugh. "We just kept working at it, talking about it. The ball was hitting and squirting off [Kaepernick]'s hand. He moved his guide hand, his left hand a little further to the right, and his top hand a little further to the right, and that helped."

Kaepernick didn't let the weather affect his mindset. He also didn't let his lone interception affect him much. After getting picked off by Devin McCourty when he tried to force one down the middle of the field early in the third quarter, Kaepernick showed his confidence driving the team down field to score a touchdown. Then he went right back to the same throw two possessions later, hitting Crabtree over the middle in between two defenders for a 27-yard strike and a touchdown that put San Francisco up 31-3.

Yea clearly the wet ball was a problem for Kap, he didnt have that glove on his off hand to start the game
It's unfair to compare Kap to by far the greatest QB of all time. However, it's also inexcusable to have that many botched snaps in a single game. Most qbs don't have that many in a season or even their entire careers. The weather is no excuse for that many botched snaps. We're lucky that they didn't cost us the game. Hopefully it's something that they'll be able to fix going forward.
it sucks some people can't enjoy success