Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by dj43:
Yes, really. There are a lot of teams out there that are struggling with their current QB. They would love to have a guy who can lead the league in percentage and be high on the yards/att. list, as well as reading defenses well.

I agree.

But, does it make sense for a team to wait for him to become a free agent in March?

Given the quarterbacks in the 2013 draft class, some team like Kansas City, which should have the first pick in the draft, would love to get Smith.

Smith would solve one major problem and having him would let them pick best player available.

See what Harbaugh decides tomorrow. If Kaepernick is named the starter, Smith may want a trade.

If I were Baalke, I would work with Smith and Smith's agent to arrange a trade. .

I would accept a 2nd round pick in 2013 and a 4th round pick in 2014 from the Chiefs.

you do not trade him this year for gods sake. am i wrong?

Wow I can agree with you sometimes. Why would we trade him this year. What would it prove? That the front office truly does hate him?

agree with my friend P.A. if alex does lose his job and it is apparant he is not starting next year i would still keep him for the rest of this year cuz then who would we have for a back up we can trust in a big game? now IF he gets to be a problem child, which i do not foresee, then you do whatever you need to do. I hope it will not come down to that, he has always been a class act. Of course we are in kind of uncharted waters

Everyone needs to realize the only way the 49ers will get rid of Alex is by release. It makes no sense to take a $1M dead money hit for a draft pick, which is likely late round, no one will pay a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for him. Not even 4th, maybe 5th. Plus 20+ Teams? Alex had a shot to leave, Miami looked at him, they went with David Garrard, now gone, and Tannehill. And they didn't want him.

Yeah, Alex might be playing better than 15-20 QBs in the league while playing on our team but he probably wouldn't do as well playing on a less talented team with a new system, etc. Teams know we will have to cut him because if they think Kap will start next year we can't pay Alex 8.75 to back him up. As much as I would love to have both unless he re-structures down to backup money at like 2 mil a year we will probably cut him. I would say we get a 4-5th at most but if AB is correct and we have a 1 mil cap hit instead of no cap hit with us releasing him not sure it's worth it. It's sad but it's the way it has to be if we want to keep guys like Goldson around and work on saving money for extensions for Justin, Aldon, Iupati, AD, Brown, Kap, Culliver, etc. Guys like Rogers will probably have to go after 2013... Haralson, Goodwin, etc along with Alex this year. Too many good players and not enough money... I guess it's a good problem to have compared to the dark era where we had 35-40 mil in cap room with no good players to re-sign.

I honestly think that renegotiating a lower salary with Smith to be Kaepernick's backup is a real possibility. I would love for that to happen. He would be a great backup for us, and if he had to come in, we would all/most feel pretty confident that he can do the job well enough for us to win.

I do think we could easily find a trade partner that would let him start. However, we ALL know how Smith is with new systems before Harbaugh. I'm not sure any team that signs him or trades for him will want to wait a full year or more for him to excel in their system. I believe that if Smith leaves SF, he will be out of the league in 2-3 years.

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Everyone needs to realize the only way the 49ers will get rid of Alex is by release. It makes no sense to take a $1M dead money hit for a draft pick, which is likely late round, no one will pay a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for him. Not even 4th, maybe 5th. Plus 20+ Teams? Alex had a shot to leave, Miami looked at him, they went with David Garrard, now gone, and Tannehill. And they didn't want him.

This. Absolutely.

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:
I honestly think that renegotiating a lower salary with Smith to be Kaepernick's backup is a real possibility. I would love for that to happen. He would be a great backup for us, and if he had to come in, we would all/most feel pretty confident that he can do the job well enough for us to win.

I do think we could easily find a trade partner that would let him start. However, we ALL know how Smith is with new systems before Harbaugh. I'm not sure any team that signs him or trades for him will want to wait a full year or more for him to excel in their system. I believe that if Smith leaves SF, he will be out of the league in 2-3 years.

Kaep will be pulling down less than a million next year as a starter. How low do you go for Smith?

I think Alex will be gone next spring. Unless he stays as part of the coaching staff. Nah, that's too crazy.

Originally posted by ayetee:

I think Alex will be gone next spring. Unless he stays as part of the coaching staff. Nah, that's too crazy.

LOL - that's not just crazy, but flat out stupid. Why would he retire to coach when he can play in the league and get Millions for another decade?

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Everyone needs to realize the only way the 49ers will get rid of Alex is by release. It makes no sense to take a $1M dead money hit for a draft pick, which is likely late round, no one will pay a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for him. Not even 4th, maybe 5th. Plus 20+ Teams? Alex had a shot to leave, Miami looked at him, they went with David Garrard, now gone, and Tannehill. And they didn't want him.

The only way the 49ers release him is if they are convinced, not just hoping, that Tolzien is ready to take over the back up role and win games against good teams. Remember, this 49er team is poised to go deep into the playoffs right now. Without a QUALITY backup, someone who can win games, all the rest of this talent goes to waste. If Smith is allowed to walk, and Tolzien is not able to carry the load, the season is down the drain.

Smith may decide it is time to leave on his own. However, he won't go to just any team. He has had all that junk he will ever want. Hence, I see him staying here for $4-6MILLION or some other appropriate amount, rather than go somewhere else and get beat up on a bad team. After all, he has made plenty of money. No reason to go somewhere else unless he has a good OL and a chance to go to the playoffs.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Everyone needs to realize the only way the 49ers will get rid of Alex is by release. It makes no sense to take a $1M dead money hit for a draft pick, which is likely late round, no one will pay a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for him. Not even 4th, maybe 5th. Plus 20+ Teams? Alex had a shot to leave, Miami looked at him, they went with David Garrard, now gone, and Tannehill. And they didn't want him.

The only way the 49ers release him is if they are convinced, not just hoping, that Tolzien is ready to take over the back up role and win games against good teams. Remember, this 49er team is poised to go deep into the playoffs right now. Without a QUALITY backup, someone who can win games, all the rest of this talent goes to waste. If Smith is allowed to walk, and Tolzien is not able to carry the load, the season is down the drain.

Smith may decide it is time to leave on his own. However, he won't go to just any team. He has had all that junk he will ever want. Hence, I see him staying here for $4-6MILLION or some other appropriate amount, rather than go somewhere else and get beat up on a bad team. After all, he has made plenty of money. No reason to go somewhere else unless he has a good OL and a chance to go to the playoffs.

If Alex walks before the end of this season, it will cost him a big chunk of the 8 mil he received this summer, not to mention the kind of damage to his reputation as a player so it probably won't happen and he will play out this year however difficult it may seem to us. As for the Niners to pay him five to eight times what Kaep receives for Alex to play backup next year, it ain't gonna happen.

I don't want Alex Smith to be traded. I want the best of both worlds apparently. Alex Smith would be nice back-up under Kaepernick. I really believe in my heart that Alex Smith is not worthy of starting in this league on a team that has a legitimate chance at the Lombardi. He will make a very good back-up for the 49ers.

As as a starter I see the Chiefs and Cardinals with a decent o-cord as his best bet.

Originally posted by dj43:
The only way the 49ers release him is if they are convinced, not just hoping, that Tolzien is ready to take over the back up role and win games against good teams. Remember, this 49er team is poised to go deep into the playoffs right now. Without a QUALITY backup, someone who can win games, all the rest of this talent goes to waste. If Smith is allowed to walk, and Tolzien is not able to carry the load, the season is down the drain.

Smith may decide it is time to leave on his own. However, he won't go to just any team. He has had all that junk he will ever want. Hence, I see him staying here for $4-6MILLION or some other appropriate amount, rather than go somewhere else and get beat up on a bad team. After all, he has made plenty of money. No reason to go somewhere else unless he has a good OL and a chance to go to the playoffs.

If Alex is okay with being a backup he's not half the qb you think he is upstairs. I think it's ludacris to think he'll back here should Kap get the starting gig. No self respecting qb in his prime would sign on for that.

There will be at least one team that he feels comfortable enough to go to. Maybe Roman gets a gig, maybe he reunites with Norv Turner, The difference between bad and good really isn't that much.

Should we go with Kap we will release him and justify it as a cap move.

Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third.

How about Rex throwing in his wife to give us all foot massages to clinch the deal?

Originally posted by ginseng1000:
what do you think we can get for Kaepernick???

A 2nd rounder?

Why on earth would they trade Kaep? Because they have Smith? Kaep is:
a) this year has proven and the years before, you can never have enough good players you are just one hit away. Tolzein-unproven, I like the kid but pre games against 3-4 stringers is hardly a clue to his talent. If he was so good and better, then he would have been in the game instead of Kaep.
b) younger, Alex has seven years working on eight
c) although he is younger, he is only on the second floor of his ceiling, look at how much he has shown despite coming from a non traditional offense. You got coaches and ex coaches raving about him now.
d) though not as experienced as AS, by his forth year he will at the very least be on AS (exp. wise) level if not surpased it. Where as AS is a good decent QB, but has reached his ceiling, if he has not, we are talking inches to a foot at the most, not yards. AS cannot equal Kaep's legs or canon of an arm. In fact it is only going to go down as he ages.
e) Alex can move the team when he needs to, but Kaep could move the team down the field faster than Alex, when he needs to, he can lead long time consuming drives like in the saints game.

My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.