These guys are a bunch of clones.
As soon as we start kicking butt they'll jump on te bandwagon like they've been picking us all year.
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Sep 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Sep 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
These guys are a bunch of clones.
As soon as we start kicking butt they'll jump on te bandwagon like they've been picking us all year.
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM
- PatrickWillisHOF
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
These guys are a bunch of clones.
As soon as we start kicking butt they'll jump on te bandwagon like they've been picking us all year.
The Packers have the best quarterback in the league. Their offense is amazing. I understand why other people are picking the Packers to beat the 9ers.
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM
- mkmasn
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Because Breeze made some perfect (and I mean perfect) throws. Rogers and Willis didn't get beat in coverage, Breese just made percision throws. Rodgers will have to have that kind of a game to beat us.
I also hate how they showed Benson running on the Bengles for a ten yard gain. The failed to realize that LB that missed that tackle is neither as good as Bowman or Willis. With that said, I'd imagine Willis will be on Finnley so Bowman will have to work hard on Benson.
Why? Bowman is just as good as P. Willy. Cedric Benson had what, three decent seasons with the bungles? His best season was 1200 yds three years ago. He's not an elite back, by any means. I wouldn't even put him in Top 15. Not to mention, he's 29 this year. This is another miss for GB with a running game.
[ Edited by mkmasn on Sep 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM ]
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:12 PM
- Oakland-Niner
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Originally posted by mkmasn:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Because Breeze made some perfect (and I mean perfect) throws. Rogers and Willis didn't get beat in coverage, Breese just made percision throws. Rodgers will have to have that kind of a game to beat us.
I also hate how they showed Benson running on the Bengles for a ten yard gain. The failed to realize that LB that missed that tackle is neither as good as Bowman or Willis. With that said, I'd imagine Willis will be on Finnley so Bowman will have to work hard on Benson.
Why? Bowman is just as good as P. Willy. Cedric Benson had what, three decent seasons with the bungles? His best season was 1200 yds three years ago. He's not an elite back, by any means. I wouldn't even put him in Top 15. Not to mention, he's 29 this year. This is another miss for GB with a running game.
The only issue I see with Bowman is that he can be a lazy tackler. He always gets there, but he doesn't always make the tackle, like Willis does.
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM
- SnakePlissken
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D-bags like Sando love to take us apart in the 'stat' department, but what they don't mention is that although all of these high-powered passing offenses may have torn us apart on the field in passing yards/YAC... yet they only end up scoring '3' at the end of 80% of those 'pass-dominating' drives.
People tell us we can't get it done with field goals, well the other teams won't be able to either, because we ALWAYS dominate in the 'bend but don't break' department (this was what people misinterpreted as 'luck' last season). We can dance with anybody as long as we hold teams to FGs, grind the clock, tire the opposing D, and keep their offense off the field. -And if that doesn't work, we've shown in so many games we're MORE THAN capable of taking the 'big risks' to win the game.
We make you play the game on 'our' own terms, and if we can't, we play it at 'yours', and beat you at your own game.
Seriously, I'd like to see anybody argue this point.
People tell us we can't get it done with field goals, well the other teams won't be able to either, because we ALWAYS dominate in the 'bend but don't break' department (this was what people misinterpreted as 'luck' last season). We can dance with anybody as long as we hold teams to FGs, grind the clock, tire the opposing D, and keep their offense off the field. -And if that doesn't work, we've shown in so many games we're MORE THAN capable of taking the 'big risks' to win the game.
We make you play the game on 'our' own terms, and if we can't, we play it at 'yours', and beat you at your own game.
Seriously, I'd like to see anybody argue this point.
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM
- ninertico
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
4-2-5
The defense can handle the run with 6 in the box. Or if they pass, 2 backers and 5DBs. With Willis and Bowman doing double duty on run and pass. We might just drop Aldon into coverage for good measure. Rodgers, 'Oops! Just didn't think he was going to do that'
That's what I was thinking...six in the box. Knowing McCarthy's history, he will test it and Willis and Bowman are ready to deliver. If that is the case, Cox comes in as the 5th DB. What about a 3-2-6 if they go to the 4 or 5 WR sets? Still, I think they will start with their base D given Benson, really do. Three to plug the middle with Aldon and Ahmad rushing the edges. I bet they target Newhouse's area of protection with an extra man blitzing given the situation. Newhouse is the weakness and in that 3rd game of the pre-season, he had two false starts and a holding penalty in their first drive.
Aldon and Justin, The Mizzu Men, are lickin' their chops!!
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:30 PM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
4-2-5
The defense can handle the run with 6 in the box. Or if they pass, 2 backers and 5DBs. With Willis and Bowman doing double duty on run and pass. We might just drop Aldon into coverage for good measure. Rodgers, 'Oops! Just didn't think he was going to do that'
That's what I was thinking...six in the box. Knowing McCarthy's history, he will test it and Willis and Bowman are ready to deliver. If that is the case, Cox comes in as the 5th DB. What about a 3-2-6 if they go to the 4 or 5 WR sets? Still, I think they will start with their base D given Benson, really do. Three to plug the middle with Aldon and Ahmad rushing the edges. I bet they target Newhouse's area of protection with an extra man blitzing given the situation. Newhouse is the weakness and in that 3rd game of the pre-season, he had two false starts and a holding penalty in their first drive.
Aldon and Justin, The Mizzu Men, are lickin' their chops!!
Jeff Saturday may be another victim they can exploit. His first year with the Packs I think. Veteran sure. But what of his physical ability at his age 37 That's Soap area, he may just up the gut on Rodgers.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM ]
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:44 PM
- ninertico
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Originally posted by dhp318:
Pack will kill us in the passing game and gain lots of yards. It'll be up to our red zone defense to stop touchdowns and our offense to take advantage of the Packers' porous defense.
So you don't think Cox in a 4-2-5 package can handle it. I actually think Fangio will go with his base D on 1st and 2nd to start to test the waters with Smith, Smith and Brooks as their primary pass rushers. If those three can disrupt the left side consistently, then Rodgers will have a long day. Those 1st and 2nd downs will be crucial. I'm pumped to see how Aldon rises to the occasion following his fellow Mizzu brother to Rodgers.
I just have a sneaky feeling that GB will be over confident and not as fit as us especially in the 4th. I also believe that Harbaugh, Roman and Cryst had a bet as to who could find the better weakness and the play to crush it. This is a "challenge" of epic proportions in the Coaches' eyes. Our run game will open up the pass and I feel as though our Jumbo package will dictate the game. Remember, they are a smaller D. I expect us to challenge the weak point of their game, the rookie on the edge and their replacement for Bishop.
If that is the case, I expect Moss to be the lone WR on those plays consistently. That way, we can play action to his side especially in the RZ. It's going to be fun to watch. It will be like watching Old School Smash Mouth Running Football. We match up very well against their passing offense, let alone their running one. Yet, they fail in comparison against our running game. Keep Rodgers on the sidelines, frustrated. Three points here, a TD here and then oh, oh, another TD to Moss.
Moss, to me, will be our most formidable weapon on offense because of what he can do psychologically to that D. He will allow others to be targets underneath him while priming the D for his next blow.
Harbaugh/Roman/Fangio have this down.
Sep 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM
- Baldie
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i like how they showed our vanilla defense in preseason, like that's actually what we're gonna run lol
Yeah. Just like when they discussed Peyton Manning. Because he moved the ball so well against the Niner defense in preseason, he's back to the old Manning. Are you kidding me?!!?!?!? Had the Niners actually game planned for that game I don't think Manning would have been that successful.
[ Edited by Baldie on Sep 8, 2012 at 3:25 PM ]
Sep 8, 2012 at 4:28 PM
- Bootlegger
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McNabb had some of the worst analysis, if you can call it that, that i've ever heard.
Sep 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM
- NickSh49
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My analysis from another thread...
Why do the 49ers have a shot to win tomorrow?
• The Packers will be relying on the pass almost exclusively, and the 49ers can protect against the run without much extra effort, relying on the front seven without the pressure of having to stack the box with 8 or 9 guys.
• The injury to MLB Desmond Bishop will have less-experienced/less-skilled DJ Smith filling in. With AJ Hawk also not being great at all things in general, it will enable the 49ers to test the MLB's with passes to Vernon Davis & Delanie Walker up the middle.
• The injury to Bishop will also help the 49ers run the ball with greater ease... and the Packers were terrible against the run last year as well.
• The Packers secondary is kind of a mess. Safety Nick Collins had to temporarily-and-maybe-permanently retire this summer. As a result, Charles Woodson & Morgan Burnett are now the safeties. And while Tramon Williams is a pretty solid CB on one side, Jarret Bush & Sam Shields are the #2 #3, and they are average at best.
For the Packers to win, I'm lining up 3-4 wide early and often, and I'm picking on Tremaine Brock all day if he's in the game, trying to get Randall Cobb and him matched up one-on-one. I'd also test Tarrell Brown, who does not have good history against Jordy Nelson or Greg Jennings.
If the Niners play press coverage well, and can put pressure on Rodgers as well, they win the game. That's basically what it comes down to tomorrow.
Why do the 49ers have a shot to win tomorrow?
• The Packers will be relying on the pass almost exclusively, and the 49ers can protect against the run without much extra effort, relying on the front seven without the pressure of having to stack the box with 8 or 9 guys.
• The injury to MLB Desmond Bishop will have less-experienced/less-skilled DJ Smith filling in. With AJ Hawk also not being great at all things in general, it will enable the 49ers to test the MLB's with passes to Vernon Davis & Delanie Walker up the middle.
• The injury to Bishop will also help the 49ers run the ball with greater ease... and the Packers were terrible against the run last year as well.
• The Packers secondary is kind of a mess. Safety Nick Collins had to temporarily-and-maybe-permanently retire this summer. As a result, Charles Woodson & Morgan Burnett are now the safeties. And while Tramon Williams is a pretty solid CB on one side, Jarret Bush & Sam Shields are the #2 #3, and they are average at best.
For the Packers to win, I'm lining up 3-4 wide early and often, and I'm picking on Tremaine Brock all day if he's in the game, trying to get Randall Cobb and him matched up one-on-one. I'd also test Tarrell Brown, who does not have good history against Jordy Nelson or Greg Jennings.
If the Niners play press coverage well, and can put pressure on Rodgers as well, they win the game. That's basically what it comes down to tomorrow.
[ Edited by NickSh49 on Sep 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM ]
Sep 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM
- mkmasn
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The only issue I see with Bowman is that he can be a lazy tackler. He always gets there, but he doesn't always make the tackle, like Willis does.
Really? He had 111 solo tackles to P. Willy's 74. Are you sure you're not thinking of Larry Grant?
[ Edited by mkmasn on Sep 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM ]
Sep 8, 2012 at 4:49 PM
- mkmasn
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Originally posted by NickSh49:
My analysis from another thread...
Why do the 49ers have a shot to win tomorrow?
• The Packers will be relying on the pass almost exclusively, and the 49ers can protect against the run without much extra effort, relying on the front seven without the pressure of having to stack the box with 8 or 9 guys.
• The injury to MLB Desmond Bishop will have less-experienced/less-skilled DJ Smith filling in. With AJ Hawk also not being great at all things in general, it will enable the 49ers to test the MLB's with passes to Vernon Davis & Delanie Walker up the middle.
• The injury to Bishop will also help the 49ers run the ball with greater ease... and the Packers were terrible against the run last year as well.
• The Packers secondary is kind of a mess. Safety Nick Collins had to temporarily-and-maybe-permanently retire this summer. As a result, Charles Woodson & Morgan Burnett are now the safeties. And while Tramon Williams is a pretty solid CB on one side, Jarret Bush & Sam Shields are the #2 #3, and they are average at best.
For the Packers to win, I'm lining up 3-4 wide early and often, and I'm picking on Tremaine Brock all day if he's in the game, trying to get Randall Cobb and him matched up one-on-one. I'd also test Tarrell Brown, who does not have good history against Jordy Nelson or Greg Jennings.
If the Niners play press coverage well, and can put pressure on Rodgers as well, they win the game. That's basically what it comes down to tomorrow.
It's not going to be hard to pressure Rodgers, it's not like they have an all pro offensive line... they gave up 36 sacks last year.
Sep 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM
- NickSh49
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Originally posted by mkmasn:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
My analysis from another thread...
Why do the 49ers have a shot to win tomorrow?
• The Packers will be relying on the pass almost exclusively, and the 49ers can protect against the run without much extra effort, relying on the front seven without the pressure of having to stack the box with 8 or 9 guys.
• The injury to MLB Desmond Bishop will have less-experienced/less-skilled DJ Smith filling in. With AJ Hawk also not being great at all things in general, it will enable the 49ers to test the MLB's with passes to Vernon Davis & Delanie Walker up the middle.
• The injury to Bishop will also help the 49ers run the ball with greater ease... and the Packers were terrible against the run last year as well.
• The Packers secondary is kind of a mess. Safety Nick Collins had to temporarily-and-maybe-permanently retire this summer. As a result, Charles Woodson & Morgan Burnett are now the safeties. And while Tramon Williams is a pretty solid CB on one side, Jarret Bush & Sam Shields are the #2 #3, and they are average at best.
For the Packers to win, I'm lining up 3-4 wide early and often, and I'm picking on Tremaine Brock all day if he's in the game, trying to get Randall Cobb and him matched up one-on-one. I'd also test Tarrell Brown, who does not have good history against Jordy Nelson or Greg Jennings.
If the Niners play press coverage well, and can put pressure on Rodgers as well, they win the game. That's basically what it comes down to tomorrow.
It's not going to be hard to pressure Rodgers, it's not like they have an all pro offensive line... they gave up 36 sacks last year.
That's why you play press coverage, so he can't dump it quickly.