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Attribute of Baalke that is quite unique

I miss Blake Costanzo
They have a philosophy. They are going to pay their guys first which is fantastic. KEEP YOUR GUYS and if they do well PAY THEM.

It actually is a fantastic strategy, because the guys who bust their ass for ass know they will get paid. Carlos Rogers said that it used to piss him off and the other players in Washington that they wouldn't pay their own guys but they would overpay for the free agents.

And yes, we probably won't go out there and OVERPAY at any position. That is the strength of the front office and can put your team in cap hell. Look at the Raiders, they had to cut Kevin Boss just to get under the cap and they only have a 5th and 6th round pick that's crazy.

ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO WANT THE NINERS TO SPEND HUGE MONEY have to understand that it's going to hurt the team in the long run.

Baalke and Harbaugh are building something special here so it can last a long time. That's how a dynasty is built. GO 49ers baby!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's not an attribute it's how business is. Keep your best players happy. Also theres really no key guy out there to really pay to give us a title shot (like Deion sanders 94')

What do you mean that's how business is? Every other team only gives big deals to internal players/only give external players modest deals? Really? Look around the league dude, that is clearly NOT the case...
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's not an attribute it's how business is. Keep your best players happy. Also theres really no key guy out there to really pay to give us a title shot (like Deion sanders 94')

What do you mean that's how business is? Every other team only gives big deals to internal players/only give external players modest deals? Really? Look around the league dude, that is clearly NOT the case...

Did I say every team ran a good business? No
Originally posted by vaden:
That's why I said we'll never sign a legit #1 WR. We have to hope to get 1 through the draft. It's frustrating, but a sound strategy for the philosophy Baalke and Harbaugh seem to have, wanting to run a lot. What I don't get is why they don't seem concerned about our interior OL and short-yardage running game, but we'll see.

I seriously doubt they aren't concerned about our RG situation. Baalke is probably waiting for the top dominoes at Guard(Grubbs/Nicks) to fall before he makes his move.
[ Edited by SFrush on Mar 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM ]
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Paying big in FA isn't totally bad, it is how it is done that matters. Teams like the raiders,and redskins do it in a way they always end up with dead money. By Backloading a contract with some bonus money that accelerates to this year when they get cut. The good FO teams put the bonus money early and rarely have a year where the salary is so ridiculous they have to cut the player. But if you are constantly having to sign FAs because you haveno draft picks it soon becomes an endless cycle.

If those 2 teams were smart they would do just like the colts, blow it all up 1 year and start from scratch. Try to acquire picks in the middle rounds and have an advantage signing UDFAs. Then over the next 3 years you will stockpile a bunch of young talent and possibly explode into a great team.
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Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by vaden:
That's why I said we'll never sign a legit #1 WR. We have to hope to get 1 through the draft. It's frustrating, but a sound strategy for the philosophy Baalke and Harbaugh seem to have, wanting to run a lot. What I don't get is why they don't seem concerned about our interior OL and short-yardage running game, but we'll see.

I seriously doubt they aren't concerned about our RG situation. Baalke is probably waiting for the top dominoes at Guard(Grubbs/Nicks) to fall before he makes his move.

I mean by doing more than just bringing Snyder (5th-worst) among guards in pressures allowed per passing play) back, but yes, there's a lot of time left.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Did I say every team ran a good business? No

Not every team. More teams run bad business than good teams. There are 4 or so teams that have a great FO, pats, steelers, chargers, and giants. Then you have the jets, eagles, cowboys, who are on a downward spiral,.
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
I think part of the reason is that most players are willing to give at least a 10% hometown discount. Therefore, you will always pay more for a big free agent from another team.

That doesn't make any sense because the 10% hometown discount would be applicable for the 31 other teams so it cancels out and is irrelevant.


That's the point.
It applies to everybody, therefore you have to pay a little more to bring a guy from team "A" to team "B".
You pay a little less to sign a guy from team "A" to team "A".

Um, ya, but if that applies to every team, that's irrelevant to bring up when discussing Baalke and his FA strategies. We're comparing Baalke to other GM's and if other GM's deal with the same thing, it's irrelevant.



Every GM in the league has equal opportunity to perform their job duties. Agreed.

Baalke, a GM, decides to sign homegrown talent.
Other GMs, like to go looking for talent from other teams.

The question is, WHY? One rationale, is that homegrown talent is less expensive, and Baalke (but not other GMs) likes to take advantage of that fact.
Therefore, "when comparing Baalke to other GMs", we note that Baalke likes to take advantage of this fact more than other GMs.

When comparing Baalke to other GMs, the differences will always be in relation to thought process. Otherwise, there is no way to make a distinction in the first place.
They have the same jobs, they follow the same rules, so what would cause one GM to perform a different action from another? The only possible reason they would ever perform differently, is because they think differently.
The way different GMs think about the game of football, is 100% relevant when discussing the differences between GMs. In fact, it is the ONLY thing that is relevant.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Mar 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM ]
You mean after 1 full offseason and one that is a day old, theyve set a trend of only locking up current niners longterm?

Between the lockout last year, and free agency just starting this year, they havent had many chances to sign outside players. Mike Wallace doesnt have to earn it first as a Niner. Theyd lock him up right away.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Did I say every team ran a good business? No

Not every team. More teams run bad business than good teams. There are 4 or so teams that have a great FO, pats, steelers, chargers, and giants. Then you have the jets, eagles, cowboys, who are on a downward spiral,.

i'd throw the packers into that group of good FO management
Originally posted by Niners99:
You mean after 1 full offseason and one that is a day old, theyve set a trend of only locking up current niners longterm?

Between the lockout last year, and free agency just starting this year, they havent had many chances to sign outside players. Mike Wallace doesnt have to earn it first as a Niner. Theyd lock him up right away.

Dude we have ZERO players on our roster on big contracts because of what they did for another team. ZERO. That's remarkable.
[ Edited by andes14 on Mar 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM ]
Originally posted by SR49er:
i'd throw the packers into that group of good FO management
Yeah I forgot them, and did not mean too.
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by Niners99:
You mean after 1 full offseason and one that is a day old, theyve set a trend of only locking up current niners longterm?

Between the lockout last year, and free agency just starting this year, they havent had many chances to sign outside players. Mike Wallace doesnt have to earn it first as a Niner. Theyd lock him up right away.

Name me one other team who currently possesses zero players lured from other teams with big contracts. We're the ONLY team.
lol when was the last time the steelers didn't play in the playoffs! The first sucks and we cripple a good team. HOW MANY TIMES DID HE JUST BEAT OUR DEFENSE!
[ Edited by TheGoldDiggerrrr on Mar 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM ]
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
lol when was the last time the steelers didn't play in the playoffs! Are first sucks and we cripple a good team. HOW MANY TIMES DID HE JUST BEAT OUR DEFENSE!

The last time the Steelers didn't play in the playoffs was following the '09 season. As for the next 2 sentences, do not understand, lol
[ Edited by andes14 on Mar 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM ]