Why did we overpay so much for Brooks? And where does that leave us now? | Page 17

SanDiego49er · 2012-02-29T17:42:23-08:00

I'm glad to have him back too. But an average OLB is not worth $44 million.... How do we plan on signing these guys now? ~ Alex Smith - ascending albeit not great. 2nd year players are much worse than him. Don't kid yourself. ~ Dashon Goldson - Turned down 5 years and $25 million last year before his monster year. Will be espensive this year. ~ Carlos Rogers - Would love to have him back. But huge money for a 31 year old CB doesn't make sense. ~ Adam Snyder - Have you seen Chilo play? Don't think this guy is important?..... ~ Ted Ginn - Have you seen Kyle Williams try to return kicks? Do you think going into 2012 with KW as your primary return man is a good idea?..... With the massive overpayment to Brooks now multiple of these may not be able to be signed. I just don't know what the front office was thinking? The highest sacks he ever had was 7. The highest tackes he ever had was 49. You explain it to me? IMO he's a product of the players around him. Justin Smith and Aldon Smith are beasts. And Ray McDonald is hugely underrated. Sopoaga is good. Willis is great. Bowman is good. He's in a phenemonal front 7. And the attention is put to other guys. I just don't think he is $44 million good. And it has future salary cap implications. I'm fine with keeping our players. But I don't think that means massively overpay. We could have made OLB a priority in the draft too and picked up Vincent Jackson or Bowe with the money. I just don't know about this deal. Glad to have him back? Yes. At this price? No way.

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:51 PM

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SMH at everyone whining in this thread. We probably will sign all of our deals like this and have plenty for all our players + maybe Even a #1 WR

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

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Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM

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Marvin49
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oops...double post

[ Edited by Marvin49 on Mar 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM ]

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM

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Originally posted by valrod33:
Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

And it's likely that Spencer and Harlason will be cone giving us them roughly 6 mil more.

Anyone still freaking our about Brooks? I was fine with the way the deal was reported before, I'm even happier now.

[ Edited by Marvin49 on Mar 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM ]

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM

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Originally posted by valrod33:
Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

I dont know how he does it

We give very good contracts to players that earn it (made Willis, Vernon highest paid players at their positions) and we still have good cap space

[ Edited by ImaMod on Mar 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM ]

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

And it's likely that spancer and Harlason will be cone giving us them roughly 6 mil more.

ANyone still freaking our about Brooks? I was fine with the way the deal was reported before, I'm even happier now.

So will still have almost 30 million to spend

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM

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Marvin49
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Originally posted by ImaMod:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

I dont know how he does it
We give very good contracts to players that earn it (made Willis, Vernon highest paid players at their positions) and we still have good cap space

The zone has moved a LONG, LONG way to actually praise Paraag. A year ago this post would have been mocked endlessly.

I've never had an issue with Paraag. He was never the problem. He was just a conveinient excuse.

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM

#248

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Originally posted by ImaMod:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Here is the best part of that article
The 49ers would have an estimated $23 million of cap space available if, as expected, the 2012 NFL salary cap remains close to last year's $120.375 million figure.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

I dont know how he does it
We give very good contracts to players that earn it (made Willis, Vernon highest paid players at their positions) and we still have good cap space

He is the best! I still remember there were some haters a couple years ago, hopefully they are all gone now. Jed better make sure he never leaves.

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM

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Originally posted by valrod33:
So much for that 44 million

Matt Maiocco ‏ @MaioccoCSN
OLB Ahmad Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million on this year's cap. It's a six-year, $37M extension. bit.ly/w5NuN4

LULZ

Once again, SanDiego49er with the huge over-reaction

Mar 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by valrod33:
So much for that 44 million

Matt Maiocco ‏ @MaioccoCSN
OLB Ahmad Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million on this year's cap. It's a six-year, $37M extension. bit.ly/w5NuN4

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Brooks-deal-counts-285-million-against-2?blockID=661356&feedID=5884

THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

Jeez....he will actually cost less this year than Shante Spencer was scheduled to make. SHH.

So what will the naysayers complain about now?

Mar 1, 2012 at 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by valrod33:
Brooks' deal, which 49ers chief negotiator Paraag Marathe worked out with agent Greg Williams, includes $17.5 million in guarantees, including a $7.5 million signing bonus.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

Brooks' future cap figures are $6.65 million in 2013, $7.5 million in 2014, 8.35 million in 2015, $6.35 million in 2016, and $5.3 million in 2017. Those amounts include roster bonuses in which Brooks receives approximately $50,000 for every game he is active in the regular season, a source said.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

This is an awesome deal any way you look at it and a win-win for us and Brooks. The Franchise Tag for an OLB is 8.8 million this year. Can you imagine what it will be like in 2016/17? And yet, the most he'd count is 8.35 and he'd have to earn every single penny and be dedicated to the "team" which clearly, he already is. Great work, FO...yet again!

Mar 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM

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It's the best contract ever negotiated in NFL history.

Mar 1, 2012 at 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:
The zone has moved a LONG, LONG way to actually praise Paraag. A year ago this post would have been mocked endlessly.

I've never had an issue with Paraag. He was never the problem. He was just a conveinient excuse.

Yeah, people use to rip him big time and I always thought he was a huge asset and was great at what he does. It was more so that they were mad because we never signed players and if we did we overpaid them but we had to. Also, it looked worse than it was because guys like Nate never got anywhere near there full contracts.

Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM

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The meat of the contract is the guaranteed 17.5 mil. Risky for the team if Brooks end up not performing up to par. But other than that, it's a cap friendly deal especially going into this year with all the other FA to sign.

Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM

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So is SD still mad ?