There are 76 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

Why are our 1st, 2nd, & 3rd round picks sitting on the bench?

  • MarkD
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 916
Because our first, second and third round pics from the last 8 years are still learning to play
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by THEB:
our 1st round pick is not sitting on the bench. hes played in both of our games so far. i dont know what football team youve been watching but it hasnt been the 49ers.

He is subbing in but he isn't in there when we need heat on the QB. He looked good to me last week but he was never in the game except for a few plays here and there.

Were saving Aldon for the play-offs. It's all part of the plan. I thought everyone knew this?
Originally posted by MarkD:
Because our first, second and third round pics from the last 8 years are still learning to play

Yep.......
Harbaltary is either smart enough to see that, or too stubborn to play them.

I'm just glad he isn't doing what sing did, and just throw anthony davis out there and make the offense suffer all season because of him. (granted there is only one person he really could have done that with CK)
[ Edited by unst4bl3 on Sep 23, 2011 at 4:16 PM ]
I HATED this years draft because Harbaugh and Baalke overestimate there ability to develop talent. Instead of following the Steelers formulary of drafting blue chip talent the niners see, tp favpr picking boom or bust candidates, players with a high ceiling but are RAW.

This is very apparent when the first starter from the draft is an OLB/DE who was converted to FB, and is now starting. Drafting this guy when the top rated FB out of college was still on the board.

Culliver was another head scratcher, they appeared to be nolan like and enthralled with tall corners that did not perfomr in college.

Aldon Smith has to learn the OLB position, another project picked number 7, yikes.

Colin Kaepernick is another project, we knew that from day one.

I posted yesterday and I still believe that I could put together a street Free Agent team and be competitive with the niners. I still think that, but then again Garrard is better than any qb on our roster. The Street FA OL could do better also. RB's are a dime a dozen, Portis, Westbrook could do as well as our guys.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I really Like Aldon Smith, I just wish he was getting more PT.

He's still learning how to cover. Jeez.
  • MarkD
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 916
One thing that is overlooked in regards to draft picks that teams like the Steelers, Patriots and few other have is the veteran influence. When a team with a stable veteran core drafts players, those players drafted benefit greatly. I would say they play better and player earlier. This is something that SF had but obviously doesnt have anymore. It died when when Jerry left and more recently BY. I would say this is one reason they are not playing. They are just not ready yet and with the lockout they are further behind.
Originally posted by 9erred:
I HATED this years draft because Harbaugh and Baalke overestimate there ability to develop talent. Instead of following the Steelers formulary of drafting blue chip talent the niners see, tp favpr picking boom or bust candidates, players with a high ceiling but are RAW.

This is very apparent when the first starter from the draft is an OLB/DE who was converted to FB, and is now starting. Drafting this guy when the top rated FB out of college was still on the board.

Culliver was another head scratcher, they appeared to be nolan like and enthralled with tall corners that did not perfomr in college.

Aldon Smith has to learn the OLB position, another project picked number 7, yikes.

Colin Kaepernick is another project, we knew that from day one.

I posted yesterday and I still believe that I could put together a street Free Agent team and be competitive with the niners. I still think that, but then again Garrard is better than any qb on our roster. The Street FA OL could do better also. RB's are a dime a dozen, Portis, Westbrook could do as well as our guys.
Oh yeah, Gerrard is amazing.
Lockout.
Originally posted by MSteitz468:
Originally posted by 9erred:
I HATED this years draft because Harbaugh and Baalke overestimate there ability to develop talent. Instead of following the Steelers formulary of drafting blue chip talent the niners see, tp favpr picking boom or bust candidates, players with a high ceiling but are RAW.

This is very apparent when the first starter from the draft is an OLB/DE who was converted to FB, and is now starting. Drafting this guy when the top rated FB out of college was still on the board.

Culliver was another head scratcher, they appeared to be nolan like and enthralled with tall corners that did not perfomr in college.

Aldon Smith has to learn the OLB position, another project picked number 7, yikes.

Colin Kaepernick is another project, we knew that from day one.

I posted yesterday and I still believe that I could put together a street Free Agent team and be competitive with the niners. I still think that, but then again Garrard is better than any qb on our roster. The Street FA OL could do better also. RB's are a dime a dozen, Portis, Westbrook could do as well as our guys.
Oh yeah, Gerrard is amazing.
Didn't we beat the Jaguars last year when he was playing, or was that two years ago?
  • dj43
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 20,155
Originally posted by firehouse538:
Everyone is on Dalton's jock but the defenses he faced were garbage. Don't expect him to repeat that performance against us. On 49ers central they showed tape on him from last week and he stared down every throw from the snap of the ball. watch us to throw different looks at him and then jump a lot of the throws.

The current 49er secondary isn't going to make anyone forget the 1980's crew.

If Spencer AND Goldson are healthy and play, that will help. If not, Dalton may have another nice day.
The Aldon Smith thing doesn't make sense to me. I'd play him every down. He's the most natural pass rusher we have.
Originally posted by dj43:
The current 49er secondary isn't going to make anyone forget the 1980's crew.

If Spencer AND Goldson are healthy and play, that will help. If not, Dalton may have another nice day.

this true the browns and the broncos D are crap (except for broncos pass rush)

but ours isnt much better i hope spencer is ok and doesnt miss a beat

i know goldson will be fine he wont make the 2 mistakes madeu williams made that gave miles 2 Tds
I guess you can get one blue chip guy or a bunch of raw talent. Getting a bunch of guys should work out in the long run if half of them turn out to be really good and a couple more add good depth.

This team seems to be building for the future. One would think several of the current starters won't even be here next year.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I always believed that the first two or three picks should yeild starters!

We have last years #2 traded to the bengals, and this years top 3 picks sitting on the bench, I don't get how Baalke is doing his job or how he even got promoted.
We need a guy like Ozzie (Baltimore) that will go out and draft a guy that he needs regardless of the hype or press. We went out and drafted rather blindly this year when you look at the positions we drafted.

I don't get it, no starters!
Well, actually, if you care to look, Ozzie has no starters either. His first pick, CB Jimmy Smith is backing up Foxworth who is backing up Webb at LCB. His second pick, Torrey Smith, is backing up Boldin at one receiver spot, and his third round pick, Jah Reid, is backing up Michael Oher.

I don't get it, no starters!
Why? Because the coaches are not idiots. Aldon Smith is playing a position that is very important in Fangio's system, giving OLB a great deal of responsiblity. Aldon is a very good pass rusher but needs work on coverage and learning a complex D. The other guys are ahead of him due to experience--not talent. CK is a very raw QB but one who may be the best in the draft class once he learns the position at the NFL level. And a 3 round rookie CB...really? You expect him to be game ready coming in with one month of practice?

Many people seem to have forgotten that there was a lockout and teams like the 9ers were most disadvantaged by the loss of minicamps, etc. It's likely that Aldon will be starting by midseason, CK will sit for at least this year and posibly longer depending on Smith and Culliver...who knows? I can understand frustration given the last eight years but this is a whole new regime, at least give them two years before you throw in the towel.

Nice post Classic Niner!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Sep 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM ]