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Nice win, but I'm still not happy about the play calling!

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  • kray28
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Originally posted by father49er:
There were a few misdirection runs and more play-action passes out of the power-i. Even the running game had more flavors. This is a great start for the O. Can't wait until the O-line get the rhythm down on these new run plays.

Love the excuses for the game plan now. Preseason's over, right? I thought we'd get the real playbook now. What happened? Oh, so now, we're "just easing into things", and "it's a complicated offense".

Meanwhile we got a rookie down in Carolina who throws for 422 yards on his first game which is close and competitive in a loss.
  • kray28
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Originally posted by communist:
Contrary to that, failed run usually results in a 3 and out. A failed pass can bring the same result or an interception and a td-return with the same play.
Of course, Gore can fumble the ball but I think that the risk for a fumble is way smaller than that for a interception. Furthermore, a fumble at the LOS doesnt have a big chance for a direct return.

One has to think about that especially when it's 4th and inches right in front the opp's endzone and you are leading. An interception in that situation is as good as returned for a TD.

Most failed passes are just incomplete actually. And even if they are interceptions, only a fraction result in points off the turnover, and much smaller fraction result in a pick six.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by socalniner:
I think it needs to be said that because the team never trailed during the game, Alex didn't have to be spectacular. The real test is going to be when the team is trailing and they need him to make plays.

I thought one of the reasons we signed Harbaugh was because he wouldn't let up if we had a lead and would go for the kill.

or did that not happen today because of lack of installation of the offense?

Umm everytime they were in position to score they did. Stop whining
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
I hope so. I really do.

But remember, if Ginn doesn't make those plays, then we probably lose. And I guarantee there wouldn't be a SINGLE poster defending the play calling.

Thank you Ted Ginn.

How can you say we probably lose if we were winning? for heavens sake.

They were moving the ball on us after their half-time adjustments. It would have come down to the wire. "Probably would have lost" is too strong OK. But without Ginn the game was a coin flip.

Watching the game I knew there would be Debbie Downers here complaining that we only won because of Ginn. But the truth is we won because our team made playes when they had to. Period. That's because we have a coach who sit's on the sideline with a clue and a belief that he's going to win. That's powerful and it filters down into his staff and players.

More good things to come, whiners. Get used to it. In fact take your sh!tty loser attitudes and go root for whoever the new bottom feeding franchise is. You're a drain on our good karma.
The true test is next week. CAN'T WAIT!
Originally posted by Bay_Area_Fan:
The true test is next week. CAN'T WAIT!

I thought every week was a true test?
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by father49er:
There were a few misdirection runs and more play-action passes out of the power-i. Even the running game had more flavors. This is a great start for the O. Can't wait until the O-line get the rhythm down on these new run plays.

Love the excuses for the game plan now. Preseason's over, right? I thought we'd get the real playbook now. What happened? Oh, so now, we're "just easing into things", and "it's a complicated offense".

Meanwhile we got a rookie down in Carolina who throws for 422 yards on his first game which is close and competitive in a loss.

Yay for them. They really lost with a lot of swag dint they? Cam was super jazzed that his impressive numbers still resulted in a .

We'd be so much better if we could lose like that, no?
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by father49er:
There were a few misdirection runs and more play-action passes out of the power-i. Even the running game had more flavors. This is a great start for the O. Can't wait until the O-line get the rhythm down on these new run plays.

Love the excuses for the game plan now. Preseason's over, right? I thought we'd get the real playbook now. What happened? Oh, so now, we're "just easing into things", and "it's a complicated offense".

Meanwhile we got a rookie down in Carolina who throws for 422 yards on his first game which is close and competitive in a loss.

Yay for them. They really lost with a lot of swag dint they? Cam was super jazzed that his impressive numbers still resulted in a .

We'd be so much better if we could lose like that, no?

Alex Smith only completed 70%+ of his passes, had 0 TD's and a rushing TD with a QB rating of 90+...oh and we won!!! Yea he's right we totally should have thrown for 422 yards and lost. That is clearly the better thing to do.
Harbaugh rookie HC.

Smith once again learning a new playbook.

Tell me, when you first learned how to ride a bike did you do it without training wheels?

Relax this engine isn't even firing on all cylinders yet.
Originally posted by AiNoKea:
Harbaugh rookie HC.

Smith once again learning a new playbook.

Tell me, when you first learned how to ride a bike did you do it without training wheels?

Relax this engine isn't even firing on all cylinders yet.
Apparently he skipped riding bikes and went straight to being a stunt car driver.
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Bay_Area_Fan:
The true test is next week. CAN'T WAIT!

I thought every week was a true test?

Naw, the seahawks game was more like a quiz.
Originally posted by Bay_Area_Fan:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Bay_Area_Fan:
The true test is next week. CAN'T WAIT!

I thought every week was a true test?

Naw, the seahawks game was more like a quiz.

First game of the season with a horrendous preseason....nope it was a test.
I don't understand why people bring up Cam's 400+ yard game when it isn't relevant to our offensive performance. You guys have to realize that every team has their own gameplan. The Panthers went into their game with the intention of passing the ball aggressively while the 49ers went with a more conservative approach.
Originally posted by candlestick49er:
I don't understand why people bring up Cam's 400+ yard game when it isn't relevant to our offensive performance. You guys have to realize that every team has their own gameplan. The Panthers went into their game with the intention of passing the ball aggressively while the 49ers went with a more conservative approach.

get your logic out of here! It is not welcome
Originally posted by candlestick49er:
I don't understand why people bring up Cam's 400+ yard game when it isn't relevant to our offensive performance. You guys have to realize that every team has their own gameplan. The Panthers went into their game with the intention of passing the ball aggressively while the 49ers went with a more conservative approach.

Here is the reason it is significant.

We have seen what the conservative "play not to lose" approach gets us with Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary. It gets us to perhaps 2-0 at the start of the season, and no playoffs at the end of the season. If you like what Mike Nolan and Singletary did, then that is fine, but we brought Harbaugh in to CHANGE that philosophy, not to continue it.

Teams who play with only defense and special teams, are rarely good. The Ravens and the Bucs used to win that way, but they were rare exceptions.
Why would we want to CONTINUE with the Nolan and Singletary philosophies? Weren't we upset with them? What has changed since then?

Our defense and special teams are better, but is this what we wanted with Harbaugh bringing back the "west coast offense"? Wasn't this supposed to be something DIFFERENT?

I'm not saying we will lose the rest of our games or go 1-15, like some have said, I am saying that IF we do not improve our offense in the coming weeks, we will lose. Let's hope they can improve it before then.
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