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Tolzien vs. Kaepernick

Who will be the starter next year?
neither
Originally posted by HessianDud:
neither

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Originally posted by boast:

Greatest .gif EVER!!!
Kaperpick should be traded for a 7th round pick asap because Tolzien is the messiah.
Originally posted by susweel:
Kaperpick should be traded for a 7th round pick asap because Tolzien is the messiah.

we should just cut him. who needs compensation when Tolzien can play every single position at a HoF level for the next 15 yrs.

that > a draft pick
Originally posted by susweel:
Kaperpick should be traded for a 7th round pick asap because Tolzien is the messiah.

We'll need Kaepernick next year. Tolzien will have finished his formula for cold fusion, and will setting up free electricity facilities for third world countries, at least until week six. Tolzien will still win the NFL MVP.
1) Alex Smith - for now and we will see how it goes this season under the direction of Harbaugh.

2) Scott Tolzien - when he learns the playbook. He doesn't even know it right now. So of course he is at a disadvantage. But when he does it's obvious he has more pocket presense and accuracy than Kaep.

3) Colin Kaepernick - If his preseason wasn't enough to convince you he can't do anything right now in the NFL I don't know what to say. A pure physical specimin who needs about 2 years on the bench to brought up to speed. Don't expect anything at all from him in 2011 and probably not 2012 either.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Alex Smith - for now and we will see how it goes this season under the direction of Harbaugh.

2) Scott Tolzien - when he learns the playbook. He doesn't even know it right now. So of course he is at a disadvantage. But when he does it's obvious he has more pocket presense and accuracy than Kaep.

3) Colin Kaepernick - If his preseason wasn't enough to convince you he can't do anything right now in the NFL I don't know what to say. A pure physical specimin who needs about 2 years on the bench to brought up to speed. Don't expect anything at all from him in 2011 and probably not 2012 either.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Alex Smith - for now and we will see how it goes this season under the direction of Harbaugh.

2) Scott Tolzien - when he learns the playbook. He doesn't even know it right now. So of course he is at a disadvantage. But when he does it's obvious he has more pocket presense and accuracy than Kaep.

3) Colin Kaepernick - If his preseason wasn't enough to convince you he can't do anything right now in the NFL I don't know what to say. A pure physical specimin who needs about 2 years on the bench to brought up to speed. Don't expect anything at all from him in 2011 and probably not 2012 either.

I agree with most of what you're saying, but I think Kaepernick's obvious struggles are not a sure sign he can't play in the NFL. Josh Freeman is probably one of the most comparable QBs in the NFL, and he looked awful as a rookie. I remember a lot of people on laughing about what a bust he was. But it turns out that when the Bucs gave someone with that physical skill set the time to adapt to the NFL, they were rewarded with a truly talented player.

So yes, right now Tolzien looks way more like an NFL QB. And could certainly also continue to improve with more time in the NFL. I'm super happy about the signing.

But don't write Kaepernick off yet.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Alex Smith - for now and we will see how it goes this season under the direction of Harbaugh.

2) Scott Tolzien - when he learns the playbook. He doesn't even know it right now. So of course he is at a disadvantage. But when he does it's obvious he has more pocket presense and accuracy than Kaep.

3) Colin Kaepernick - If his preseason wasn't enough to convince you he can't do anything right now in the NFL I don't know what to say. A pure physical specimin who needs about 2 years on the bench to brought up to speed. Don't expect anything at all from him in 2011 and probably not 2012 either.

I agree with most of what you're saying, but I think Kaepernick's obvious struggles are not a sure sign he can't play in the NFL. Josh Freeman is probably one of the most comparable QBs in the NFL, and he looked awful as a rookie. I remember a lot of people on laughing about what a bust he was. But it turns out that when the Bucs gave someone with that physical skill set the time to adapt to the NFL, they were rewarded with a truly talented player.

So yes, right now Tolzien looks way more like an NFL QB. And could certainly also continue to improve with more time in the NFL. I'm super happy about the signing.

But don't write Kaepernick off yet.

I don't write off Kaep. But it is true that he is a major project and will take about 2 years. I'm fine with that project as it is in Harbaugh's hands. But what is clear is he is useless for 2011 and probably for 2012 too. I didn't say he could never play in the NFL. He may or may not. He is a long term project with boom or bust potential. It's certainly possible he works out well and possible he doesn't.
Originally posted by boast:

Is that 3-D?