Harbaughs Approach to this 3rd preseason game.

Originally posted by aman49:

Originally posted by boast:
no use game planning for the preseason opponents when we have to use every available second in camp to install new offensive and defensive schemes from scratch.

so, yeah! all of the the games have been vanilla.


overreact if the team is still playing like this after week 4. kthanx.

This.

On the bright side, the "game planning" debate on this board right now is really exposing the posters who don't know a damn thing about football.

In High School football, we spend about 4 days, in the classroom and in practice, gameplanning against opponents.

In the NFL, Harbaugh spent 15 minutes in prep for this game.

Therefore... people need to stop overanalyzing the Texans game. Harbaugh knew we wouldn't look great. And he didn't care.

And what did he accomplish by that? After all its about evaluating your talent, right? So you are saying, JH and sent the players out there without any game plan and evaluate them based on nothing. That doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by aman49:

This.

On the bright side, the "game planning" debate on this board right now is really exposing the posters who don't know a damn thing about football.

In High School football, we spend about 4 days, in the classroom and in practice, gameplanning against opponents.

In the NFL, Harbaugh spent 15 minutes in prep for this game.

Therefore... people need to stop overanalyzing the Texans game. Harbaugh knew we wouldn't look great. And he didn't care.

Exactly. We have not even seen what this team looks like yet. Just wait till harbaugh nd roman can put their touch on this offense. People may be butt hurt about it but have some common sense, it's preseason, it's vanilla. Doesn't matter if you go 4-0.

Originally posted by aman49:
This.

On the bright side, the "game planning" debate on this board right now is really exposing the posters who don't know a damn thing about football.

In High School football, we spend about 4 days, in the classroom and in practice, gameplanning against opponents.

In the NFL, Harbaugh spent 15 minutes in prep for this game.

Therefore... people need to stop overanalyzing the Texans game. Harbaugh knew we wouldn't look great. And he didn't care.

Gotta disagree with this. Though I think not game planning was a disadvantage that JH knew coming into the game, I still have to imagine he cared a whole hell of a lot that our players looked completely overmatched, Vanilla scheme or not.

Originally posted by aman49:
This.

On the bright side, the "game planning" debate on this board right now is really exposing the posters who don't know a damn thing about football.

In High School football, we spend about 4 days, in the classroom and in practice, gameplanning against opponents.

In the NFL, Harbaugh spent 15 minutes in prep for this game.

Therefore... people need to stop overanalyzing the Texans game. Harbaugh knew we wouldn't look great. And he didn't care.

That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Yeah he didn't care

This is a BS excuse. It's not like we got beat because they could easily read our plays on offense since they were predictable. Or that they succeeded on offense because our D didn't use complex blitzing schemes.

Man to man we just had our asses handed to us. The oline couldn't stop anyone. We got no pressure on their QB at all. On virtually every pass they completed, the receiver had easy separation from our defender.

That is just getting beat. Pure and simple. Nothing to do with "game plan" or a "vanilla" scheme.

You can give some credence to learning a new system and assume miscommunication, missed assignments and other mistakes that have to do with learning a whole new scheme.

But the "not gameplanning" stuff is absurd. We didn't get beat by a few plays where they exploited our weakness and/or we didn't exploit theirs.

It looked like a JV High School team against LSU. It didn't matter if it was our 1s vs their 1s, our 2s vs their 1s, our 2s, vs their 2s, etc... At every level, at every phase of the game, we got owned.

Game plan or no game plan, "vanilla" or not, we were not prepared to play and/or do not have the talent to compete. The game clearly showed that either or both of those are true. Just like the last time we played a decent team (see the Saints game).

Those of you expecting things to magically turn around in two weeks because we will "game plan" are delusional.

Agreed. We looked like butt. if it's vanilla then execute it. Don't get your tail beat on every down.

I think a lot of people have way too high of expectations of a team that just met their coaches a few weeks. We all knew going into the preseason that this season was going to be ugly. Probably very ugly at the beginning. Basically the whole coaching staff is new to these players. Including the systems on both sides of the ball. If you expected them to hit the ground running, you're crazy. Vanilla or not, this team is still learning a lot. No excuse for getting beat one on one up front but they are still thinking. Not reacting. It might take them a few weeks into the season before the new blocking schemes become instinct. Hell they may never get it together but its obvious they are still learning.You can't think before reacting in the NFL and be successful. It needs to be instinct. The expectations for this team are ridiculous considering the past decade and the crazy offseason.

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by aman49:
This.

On the bright side, the "game planning" debate on this board right now is really exposing the posters who don't know a damn thing about football.

In High School football, we spend about 4 days, in the classroom and in practice, gameplanning against opponents.

In the NFL, Harbaugh spent 15 minutes in prep for this game.

Therefore... people need to stop overanalyzing the Texans game. Harbaugh knew we wouldn't look great. And he didn't care.

That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Yeah he didn't care

How much stock do you put in preseason? “I’m putting a lot of stock in it. We’re in the process of getting ready for our season and the process of building the football team and who makes the team. Games are very important, as is practice. I put a lot of stock into it. And I put a lot of stock into being able to learn, as we go through this process, from these games. It’s very important. It’ll be very important for what our regular season looks like. It’s all part of that process. Building, learning.-JH

For the "vanilla" excuses:

"The Niners coach allowed as much during his day-after-game conference call with the local media in which he reiterated what he said after Saturday's game: The Texans' defense bullied the offensive line while using largely vanilla schemes."

So, their vanilla + our vanilla = us getting our butts kicked.

Any other excuses? I know we all love the team and want to believe the best, but believe your eyes. It will take Harbs a while to make this team into winners. We don't have the talent in the trenches and he needs to learn to be a NFL head coach. None of it is going to miraculously happen overnight.

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
For the "vanilla" excuses:

"The Niners coach allowed as much during his day-after-game conference call with the local media in which he reiterated what he said after Saturday's game: The Texans' defense bullied the offensive line while using largely vanilla schemes."

So, their vanilla + our vanilla = us getting our butts kicked.

Any other excuses? I know we all love the team and want to believe the best, but believe your eyes. It will take Harbs a while to make this team into winners. We don't have the talent in the trenches and he needs to learn to be a NFL head coach. None of it is going to miraculously happen overnight.

they werent vanilla didnt u hear the texans treated this like a real game they not only fully gameplanned against us but there plays and playcalling is exactly like what they would do in game

My issue is that vanilla or not, our OL has been failing miserably... sometimes from just getting whipped 1-on-1... sometimes from stupidity of who they are supposed to be blocking. That's not about vanilla... that's just dude's getting beat and being unfocused (or poorly trained). I'll cut the defense some slack though. Houston was out-scheming the heck out of us... but again... it's not like our D was even interested in scheming back, so...

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
For the "vanilla" excuses:

"The Niners coach allowed as much during his day-after-game conference call with the local media in which he reiterated what he said after Saturday's game: The Texans' defense bullied the offensive line while using largely vanilla schemes."

So, their vanilla + our vanilla = us getting our butts kicked.

Any other excuses? I know we all love the team and want to believe the best, but believe your eyes. It will take Harbs a while to make this team into winners. We don't have the talent in the trenches and he needs to learn to be a NFL head coach. None of it is going to miraculously happen overnight.

they werent vanilla didnt u hear the texans treated this like a real game they not only fully gameplanned against us but there plays and playcalling is exactly like what they would do in game

According to whom? From what Harbs told the media, he thought they used "vanilla" schemes. Perhaps they "game planned" a bit more than us, but they sure didn't show us their full arsenal. And we couldn't handle their basic D or O. At all. By our own coach's determination (according to the beat writers who cover his press conferences), he thought they used "vanilla" schemes.

what makes anyone think that this team is already capable of much more than vanilla from this system? The excuse isn't that the play calling is soft, its that the team still doesn't know what they're doing. Do you realize how many different plays are in an NFL playbook? It takes years for good players to master a system. Give the niners a little more than a month to at least learn one. Its way too early for criticism.

Originally posted by TexasNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
For the "vanilla" excuses:

"The Niners coach allowed as much during his day-after-game conference call with the local media in which he reiterated what he said after Saturday's game: The Texans' defense bullied the offensive line while using largely vanilla schemes."

So, their vanilla + our vanilla = us getting our butts kicked.

Any other excuses? I know we all love the team and want to believe the best, but believe your eyes. It will take Harbs a while to make this team into winners. We don't have the talent in the trenches and he needs to learn to be a NFL head coach. None of it is going to miraculously happen overnight.

they werent vanilla didnt u hear the texans treated this like a real game they not only fully gameplanned against us but there plays and playcalling is exactly like what they would do in game

According to whom? From what Harbs told the media, he thought they used "vanilla" schemes. Perhaps they "game planned" a bit more than us, but they sure didn't show us their full arsenal. And we couldn't handle their basic D or O. At all. By our own coach's determination (according to the beat writers who cover his press conferences), he thought they used "vanilla" schemes.

He said the 49ers got violated. I think that sums up our OL and Secondary. Both our QBs should get to punch JH, Roman, and each man on the OL in the balls. Twice.

Originally posted by TexasNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
For the "vanilla" excuses:

"The Niners coach allowed as much during his day-after-game conference call with the local media in which he reiterated what he said after Saturday's game: The Texans' defense bullied the offensive line while using largely vanilla schemes."

So, their vanilla + our vanilla = us getting our butts kicked.

Any other excuses? I know we all love the team and want to believe the best, but believe your eyes. It will take Harbs a while to make this team into winners. We don't have the talent in the trenches and he needs to learn to be a NFL head coach. None of it is going to miraculously happen overnight.

they werent vanilla didnt u hear the texans treated this like a real game they not only fully gameplanned against us but there plays and playcalling is exactly like what they would do in game

According to whom? From what Harbs told the media, he thought they used "vanilla" schemes. Perhaps they "game planned" a bit more than us, but they sure didn't show us their full arsenal. And we couldn't handle their basic D or O. At all. By our own coach's determination (according to the beat writers who cover his press conferences), he thought they used "vanilla" schemes.

according what texans coach told the media