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I still dont understand the Crabtree hate ....

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson.

on a 49ers forum, this is hilariously sad.
Originally posted by WINiner:
He doesn't act as though he enjoys being a Niner. He is aloof and separate. He doesn't appear to work hard and seems to have a me first attitude. He seemingly always has an injury when there aren't real games being played, but is magically 100% when the real bullets do fly. He doesn't seem like a team guy.


These are the perceptions, reality or not (although some might say perception is reality in a sense) , that have Niner fans soured on Crabtree. I for 1 believe he is outta here the 1st opportunity he gets.

This !
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I don't hate him just VERY disappointed. That said - that's yesterday's news.

THIS season, IMO, he really needs to step it up and become a difference maker a number 10 draft pick should be. I want him to succeed and I feel it is Put up or Shut Up time for MCrabtree.

If he can't produce get someone who can - that's how we will win a SBowl.
... and this !

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
his teammates constantly say he puts in the effort and they all get a long with him. but according to the writers and fans he's a troublemaker whos isolated. so until the coaches and teammates turn on him, ill take their word for it.

As I said I don't hate the guy. I don't hate on any of the 49ers players, but I do think that his biggest downfall. I believe Crabtree can be a spectacular reciever, but when you don't get time in with your QB, you can't expect everything to fit right. Last season Alex and Crabtree were on the wrong page on quite a few attempts. I personally believe this had to do with lack of timing, and a lack of off-season.
... and this !

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
I am open to trade Crabtree. I don't hate Crabtree but I don't like him either. He obviously has talents but for my ten cents of opinion he does not use them in a manner to help out the team. He gives the appearance that he wants to help himself at his speed. He does not seem to be a team player, to me. So between the fact that injured or not he seems to be able to play in the regular season but not in the preseason. He does not communicate a team spirit to me. He does not seem to help out his QB and seems to undermine the QB. So for me if a good deal came along I am open to trade him for value. If there is no equal value trade we keep him. That is just my opinion about Mr. Crabtree.

... and since we have Braylon, this too! (pending the Edwards suspension)
Yea I don't understand the Crabtree hate at all, this guy has made some great catches in his career. I mean, he's had to; consider whose throwing him the ball. That's why some of Brandon Lloyds catches as a niner were amazing, and last year he had a solid quarterback throwing him the ball. Just imagine if we actually would have gotten a decent quarterback to get him the ball. Maybe if we have something to play for this year (like a division title) I'm sure we'll see Crabs turn it up. He's a T.O in the making, quote me on that.
I like Crabtree and he is the best WR we drafted since Owens imo. Despite missing camps and pre-season hes been the best WR we have had 2 years in a row. That fact has always amazed me given the circumstances we had with the horribly inconsistent QB play both years. In the right system with a quality QB this hate will go away real fast.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson
jerry rice and T.O. seem to disagree with you...
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson
jerry rice and T.O. seem to disagree with you...

last time i checked desean jackson is an elite wr whos 5 foot nothing
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson
jerry rice and T.O. seem to disagree with you...

last time i checked desean jackson is an elite wr whos 5 foot nothing
I may be mistaken but Andre Johnson the best WR in the NFL is under 6'5".
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson
jerry rice and T.O. seem to disagree with you...
And John Taylor
Originally posted by susweel:
Okay I will bite.

1 Held out all of training and even missed 5 games for the same deal he would have (felt entitled to getting more money then his draft slot)
2 Missed all of training camp with a lame injury that even teammates (VD) questioned
3 Missing camp again for another injury


add to the fact he doesn't really want to be a niner.


um he's a douche and hopefully we can get something decent back in trade.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i didn't say beat writer, i meant writers like ray ratto and ann killion. they spew that rhetoric on the radio and tv a lot, but its what they do i guess. they aren't supposed to be objective.

Right. I usually don't give a whole lot of credence to what the columists say. They need to generate heat to get people to read. If the beat writers were reporting a problem then I would be concerned.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by BHulman:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
his teammates constantly say he puts in the effort and they all get a long with him. but according to the writers and fans he's a troublemaker whos isolated. so until the coaches and teammates turn on him, ill take their word for it.

I haven't seen where a beat writer has said he is a trouble maker. I could have missed it but I haven't seen it. I think Crabtree is very shy and that will lead to perception problems. Missing the last three preseasons is a problem and last season the lack of work showed on the field. It also hurt that the Niners had an offense that really didn't know how to use wide receivers. I actually still think that Crabtree can be a standout receiver. He makes some grabs that other receivers don't make and his ability after the catch is first-rate. Not sure he has the speed to be a true number #1 but put a true #1 across from him and I think he will do some serious damage. I'm hoping that Harbaugh's offense and the addition of Edwards will allow us to see that this year.

i didn't say beat writer, i meant writers like ray ratto and ann killion. they spew that rhetoric on the radio and tv a lot, but its what they do i guess. they aren't supposed to be objective.

Right. I usually don't give a whole lot of credence to what the columists say. They are all about generating heat to get readers. If the beat writers were reporting a problem (their job is to be a little blander and much more objective but, even if it was between the lines, they would let us know that Crabtree is a trouble maker) than I would be concerned.
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Originally posted by nflguy49:


Originally posted by nflguy49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Okay I will bite.

1 Held out all of training and even missed 5 games for the same deal he would have (felt entitled to getting more money then his draft slot)
2 Missed all of training camp with a lame injury that even teammates (VD) questioned
3 Missing camp again for another injury


add to the fact he doesn't really want to be a niner.


um he's a douche and hopefully we can get something decent back in trade.


Acting like he is Hall Of Fame material when so far his performance on the field has been a C+ at best. Good enough reason to hate him for me.
Originally posted by Vasco49er:
I may be mistaken but Andre Johnson the best WR in the NFL is under 6'5".

How tall is Carolina's Steve Smith? He seems to be slowing down but he was pretty decent for a long time.
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Originally posted by nflguy49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Okay I will bite.

1 Held out all of training and even missed 5 games for the same deal he would have (felt entitled to getting more money then his draft slot)
2 Missed all of training camp with a lame injury that even teammates (VD) questioned
3 Missing camp again for another injury


add to the fact he doesn't really want to be a niner.


um he's a douche and hopefully we can get something decent back in trade.

Right, the original question was why the Crabtree hate. Susweel hit most of them on the head. Now some of them may be speculation, but it is why some feel he simply doesn't have the drive to become great. When one sees a talent like Crabtree not live up to their ability based on the idea they are not trying, HATE will show it's ugly and maybe undeserved face.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's slow and around 6'1". The great ones are 6'5" and can run like Calvin Johnson.

He is taller than 6-1. I can tell you that for sure, I am 6-4 and he is almost as tall as me, I was Standing next to him after yesterdays practice. But size aside. He can make plays with the ball in his hand.
Originally posted by BHulman:
Originally posted by Vasco49er:
I may be mistaken but Andre Johnson the best WR in the NFL is under 6'5".

How tall is Carolina's Steve Smith? He seems to be slowing down but he was pretty decent for a long time.
He was an elite receiver and he is only 5'9".
[ Edited by Vasco49er on Aug 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM ]
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