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Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by brhokla:
Well, considering every Big Name Free Agent has been attached to the Niners this year but not one has signed with them I'd say Balke is Full Of It! Lets see, we are going to be this, that, Not big players in Free agency but we wanted the best Corner in the league, oh and we wanted Burress and so forth. Lets see, maybe they are saying what they are saying because they know nobody wants to come be part of the Yorks Disfunctional Team! This Sucks and after 8 Loosing Seasons it is beyond Getting Old!

How could we not have done a contract a year ago to keep Baas and I understand we have other needs but wouldn't Center be one of them?

The big names get attached to us by the press. The team has said all along that they are not going to be big players in free agency. The Redskins have shown how running after every big name FA works out.

Harbaugh was brought in to do a job. Let's see what he makes of it.

Are u saying Redskins know how to spend and sign right FAs?
Stadium makes a difference. Not the only thing but a factor.
Phucked with an "f". The guy is in way over his head.
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Originally posted by strickac:
We've established a track record of failure. Most veterans want to go to a winning organization. You can't blame Baalke for our recent history.

He's trying to sign guys, but we're just not a legit consideration for most players. Baalke's hands are kind of tied.

Unless you know what restrictions are put on him he cannot be graded. Of course since he was promoted from within, and no one but the cheap Yorks would hire him as GM it is not like he going to man up and talk back to the boss. If all he is allowed to do is offer players 80% of what another team is willing to pay he won't be scoring anything other than undrafted free agent scrubs.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I keep reading posts that say "cheap" and "low ball offer" - where is this coming from? I'm not reading this in any of the tweets or articles. I'm also not seeing it in articles. Are they saying this on ESPN? I haven't seen Schefter say it ... just trying to figure out where this is coming from ....

If you're refering to my use of "low-ball offer" it was in the context of extending a player like Brooks or Haralson, but paying them less than what someone of that skill set or position would actually make if they were established....i.e. Bonafied passrusher.

I wasn't referring to your posts specifically, just I had come across that many times generally.

However specifically to your post, if a player believes he's getting a "low-ball" extension, doesn't he have the right not to take it? Furthermore, specifically regarding these players, they are not bona fide pass-rushers so I wouldn't expect them to command top dollar.

So are you saying we shouldn't extend these guys and go after a bona fide pass-rusher? I do agree with that premise, but it's always good to have depth to a certain degree.

[ Edited by NinerGM on Jul 31, 2011 at 22:09:08 ]
Being that I am happy just be being talking real football again.. my bitterness factor is way down. Baalke as a GM is very much a wait and see proposition. That is just the way it is. But like many of you I was concerned that he was promoted without any real search. I am concerned that two of the teams biggest FA concerns have the team behind the 8 ball. Baas (center) and Cornerback (No Clemons) and at this point it does not look like there are any better replacements on the horizon. These two factors very concerning at this point. Not a great start. In FA. As for Spikes and LaBoy I saw the replacements names and unless he (Baakle) knows something that we... (which he may) do not the two signings do not look like upgrades.

If one follows the old homeland security threat level for impending disaster I would say it is level yellow (elevated level of attack). Blue is Guarded. I am at elevated Yellow.

What are you at?
His FA rating is much like his draft rating. Everyones looking around wondering whats going on. But sounds like the guy has a plan and knows hes doing it his way. We'll all have to wait and see. 3yrs would be a gauge.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I keep reading posts that say "cheap" and "low ball offer" - where is this coming from? I'm not reading this in any of the tweets or articles. I'm also not seeing it in articles. Are they saying this on ESPN? I haven't seen Schefter say it ... just trying to figure out where this is coming from ....

If you're refering to my use of "low-ball offer" it was in the context of extending a player like Brooks or Haralson, but paying them less than what someone of that skill set or position would actually make if they were established....i.e. Bonafied passrusher.

I wasn't referring to your posts specifically, just I had come across that many times generally.

However specifically to your post, if a player believes he's getting a "low-ball" extension, doesn't he have the right not to take it? Furthermore, specifically regarding these players, they are not bona fide pass-rushers so I wouldn't expect them to command top dollar.

So are you saying we shouldn't extend these guys and go after a bona fide pass-rusher? I do agree with that premise, but it's always good to have depth to a certain degree.

I guess I just need to choose my words more carefully. Instead of "low-ball" I should of used discount. In other words, the Niners like to extend promsing players that still are more potential than production because they get them at a "discount." That's not a horrible strategy, but at some point you also need to pay for "bona fide players."
He threw in all his chips on Asomugha, and now is like a deer in headlights. "He didn't sign with us????"

The Niners had the draft and free agency to solve the greatest problem facing this team: covering wide receivers. In the end, the Cardinals get Patrick Peterson, the Eagles, Nnamdi Asomugha, the Texans, Johnathan Joseph, the Ravens, Chris Carr, the Steelers, Ike Taylor, the Jets, Antonio Cromartie, and the 49ers......Chris Culliver, a converted safety.

It sure should be fun to watch Larry Fitzgerald and Braylon Edwards and Todd Heap and Kevin Kolb carve up our secondary in 2011. It's OK. We've got Antwan Applewhite and Larry Grant.

So, what has been our biggest signing: Ray McDonald to a $20 million contract; and he will probably end up sitting on the bench if Franklin returns. Genius!!!!

Goldson is basically begging us to re-sign him, and when we finally do, some board members will scream, "Trent is a success", as if he had to do any heavy lifting.

"Be patient"! We have a "plan".

P.S. Jeff Kaplan's article on the home page, in discussing the epic disaster we are witnessing, was brilliant. Nice work!!

By the way, are we still going to the playoffs, Jed? Looks like we are making a big push to get there.
right now id give him an incomplete---wait until free agency is over before judging him
I give him a grade of...incomplete. There are many factors that are involved. I expected this year to be an evaluation year for the new coaching staff. They need time to evaluate the talent already on the team and how effective they will be in the new scheme.

For example...everyones favorite spinning pass rusher. Banta-cain was effective in NE. Once he came to the Niners...he was average at best. Some players perform better in a certain O or D. Due to the lockout...we only have limited time to evaluate so I'm not suprised that we have been fairly inactive. I expect next year to be different.

This is like evaluating the Draft selections...give him more than 1 year because nothing is going to change in less than a week of FA.

[ Edited by drake49er on Aug 1, 2011 at 08:09:45 ]
I wish I could jump off the deep end like most.


Heres what we know, rookie HC on a losing team, new system, in a reduced off-season.

Were people really thinking this season was going to be a good one for us? I mean really?
What matters most is getting us to the two win mark this year.... if manages to do that....he will receive my unconditional support....

#Suck4Luck....
Originally posted by Baalkesux:
What matters most is getting us to the two win mark this year.... if manages to do that....he will receive my unconditional support....

#Suck4Luck....

A better way to achieve this would have been to do what I suggested and trade our number 1 pick this year for someones next years.
Yeah it's kinda of disheartening to see other teams in such a weak division making moves to try to win now. While it's pretty apparent the Niners are in full rebuild mode. Looks like we are taking a let's let the guys we have play and see who pans out approach. Like they are gonna use this season to just evaluate talent.

I just can't explain why no CB's(that will make a difference) or a right guard to replace chilo were brought in. to me it's not about signing big names but it's about signing good quality names. and the front office is just watching talent walk on by.

[ Edited by lamontb on Aug 1, 2011 at 09:19:43 ]
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
I've been keeping my 'cool' all this time awaiting the results of the 'Olin Kreutz situation' (not as worried about what s**tty CB we'll sign to fill Clements spot, cause Center is the third most important position on a team; third to QB & Pass-rusher).

If we don't get Kreutz, I'll fully support/join the "FRONT OFFICE SUCKS!" bandwagon.

Don't worry, Snyder is learning on the job to play center. The organization loves putting people in positions they've never worked at before. Like coaches, GM and owner. I expect them to find some undrafted free agents to learn to play cornerback very soon.