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Is frank gore done?

The holdout was a unique opportunity btw...bungled as usual by our illustrious front office.

We could have jettisonned him while his value was still somewhat high and gotten back something of value. Instead, we painted ourselves into a corner with a contract extension that no one will touch for a player who's clearly on the decline.
Originally posted by kray28:
Except for the holdout, of course. No evidence otherwise....you're right on the money.

I think this is one of those things we will never know. As an NFL player, its always about money in some way. Guess we will never know, but can see it your way
Originally posted by kray28:
The holdout was a unique opportunity btw...bungled as usual by our illustrious front office.

We could have jettisonned him while his value was still somewhat high and gotten back something of value. Instead, we painted ourselves into a corner with a contract extension that no one will touch for a player who's clearly on the decline.

Have you seen his contract? Very Niner Friendly. Id suggest reading the details of it before talking out of your ass anymore
It's important to look at it like a business (nothing personal). Was giving him a 3 year, $22 million extension something that made sense, business wise?

When he staged the holdout...my suggestion was to trade him post haste. He only had a year left on his deal, and there would have been several teams with pieces we needed who'd have made a deal with us for him.
Being that im a "noob" im going to bow out of this one and let the vets debate this one out.
A couple of bad games and you say he's done, meanwhile you all keep your support for Smith after years of nothing? Give me a break.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Have you seen his contract? Very Niner Friendly. Id suggest reading the details of it before talking out of your ass anymore

"Very Niner friendly" doesn't change the reality of that:

1. He's still our starting RB and underperforming badly....something I predicted back in early August.
2. He's no longer a tradeable asset that we could have swapped for talent elsewhere.
3. He's on the decline and will not be getting younger or better with the life of his deal.
Originally posted by kray28:
It's important to look at it like a business (nothing personal). Was giving him a 3 year, $22 million extension something that made sense, business wise?

When he staged the holdout...my suggestion was to trade him post haste. He only had a year left on his deal, and there would have been several teams with pieces we needed who'd have made a deal with us for him.

It actually was smart, it showed the team that their is loyalty to its players... allows the team to utilize Frank as an assistant once his carreer is over, and the most important part is that Frank isnt done yet. Even if he has lost a step, he is more than capable of being a complimentary back. He catches the ball well, he blocks well, and he can still make a play here and there. Personally I think he should start being used as a 3rd down back, and let Hunter get a few more carries on 1st and 2nd down. He can still pass protect and the defense will most likely load the box if frank is in there thinking its a draw which will allow for receivers to get more space. He also can scamper out of the backfield as a safety valve. If Frank leaves Cincy averaging less than 3 yards a carry, we will see how stuck in his ways Harbs really is and whether he is willing to get younger players like Hunter more time on the field even if Frankie gets pissed he has to split carries.
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Have you seen his contract? Very Niner Friendly. Id suggest reading the details of it before talking out of your ass anymore

"Very Niner friendly" doesn't change the reality of that:

1. He's still our starting RB and underperforming badly....something I predicted back in early August.
2. He's no longer a tradeable asset that we could have swapped for talent elsewhere.
3. He's on the decline and will not be getting younger or better with the life of his deal.
1. Cj2k has worse number than Gore through 2 games. he is also underperforming badly considering the contract he just got
2. One of the Matts were asked if trading Frank Gore was a better option(maybe it was Sando) and they said No one was gonna trade anything of value for an aging Rb on a 1 year deal
3. Niners can release Gore with no major cap hits every year in his deal.
[ Edited by valrod33 on Sep 20, 2011 at 9:23 AM ]
Originally posted by kray28:
It's important to look at it like a business (nothing personal). Was giving him a 3 year, $22 million extension something that made sense, business wise?

When he staged the holdout...my suggestion was to trade him post haste. He only had a year left on his deal, and there would have been several teams with pieces we needed who'd have made a deal with us for him.

This

This is what a bright forward thinking front office would have done, but we dont have one of those so we ended up paying an injury prone aging RB.

Another great move by the great Baalke.

Originally posted by Uppercut:
A couple of bad games and you say he's done, meanwhile you all keep your support for Smith after years of nothing? Give me a break.

So true. I just think he doesn't have his legs under him yet. He looked better in the 4th qtr on Sunday than he did all game.
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by Uppercut:
A couple of bad games and you say he's done, meanwhile you all keep your support for Smith after years of nothing? Give me a break.

So true. I just think he doesn't have his legs under him yet. He looked better in the 4th qtr on Sunday than he did all game.

Wouldn't he looks worse in 4th quarter if he doesn't have his legs under him yet ? Also that is such a bs argument, its not like he wasn't practicing in training camp.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by Uppercut:
A couple of bad games and you say he's done, meanwhile you all keep your support for Smith after years of nothing? Give me a break.

So true. I just think he doesn't have his legs under him yet. He looked better in the 4th qtr on Sunday than he did all game.

Wouldn't he looks worse in 4th quarter if he doesn't have his legs under him yet ? Also that is such a bs argument, its not like he wasn't practicing in training camp.

Frank is one of those backs who gets stronger as the game goes on. Frank gets no touches in preseason. But to say he's done is absurd
He's done.
We'll see.
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