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Originally posted by mayo49:
St. Louis and Seattle are losing right now. If both lose we'll still be one back.
Originally posted by fly15:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.
It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.
What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.
Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.
He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).
No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.
The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.
Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.
In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.
As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.
Would YOU respect the Gruden decision to retain Alex for another year?
Gruden is smarter thatn that
Originally posted by 190836:Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:Originally posted by GoalLineStand:Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?
Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.
man this joke is getting old
-9fA
You know whats getting old is eight freaking losing seasons.
Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by fly15:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.
It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.
What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.
Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.
He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).
No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.
The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.
Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.
In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.
As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.
Would YOU respect the Gruden decision to retain Alex for another year?
Gruden is smarter thatn that
answer the question
Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by fly15:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.
It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.
What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.
Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.
He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).
No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.
The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.
Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.
In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.
As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.
Would YOU respect the Gruden decision to retain Alex for another year?
Gruden is smarter thatn that
answer the question
Originally posted by kray28:
Is anyone even upset with this loss?
I'm not. I fully expected it. Knew they didn't have a chance in hell of winning today.
Niner losses don't even hurt me anymore, I am numb to them and the utter fail they are. There's all kinds of blame to go around, but it's hard to deny that the blame starts at the top, and rests almost fully on ownership, the front office, and then that utter failtard we have as a coach.
Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by fly15:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.
It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.
What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.
Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.
He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).
No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.
The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.
Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.
In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.
As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.
Would YOU respect the Gruden decision to retain Alex for another year?
Gruden is smarter thatn that
answer the question
Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.
It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.
What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.
Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.
He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).
No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.
The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.
Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.
In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.
As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.
Would YOU respect the Gruden decision to retain Alex for another year?
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
I really hope the NFL seriously looks at changing the playoff entry rules THIS season IF an NFC West team wins it at 7-9 and there are other teams out there at 10-6 or better who stand to miss out.
Originally posted by 190836:Originally posted by GoalLineStand:Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?
Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.
Apparently he said it 5x in his post game.
