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  • tn9er
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
While I agree we had Atlanta where we wanted them and then allowed them to convert multiple 3rd down situations, the point of the offense being just as big a culprit is they wouldn't be clinging to a 1 pt lead or be behind (as they've been in 3 of the 4 games) if the O had put a decent amt of pts on the board. There are some weaknesses in our D...like CB, where Brown's a liability and I'm not very enthralled w/Goldson, either. Our DL could use another beast like Justin Smith, too. But, overall, this is a capable unit...they're simply too often put behind the 8-ball and that takes its toll.

And it's the conservative coaching plans that keeps the game so close, just the way Sing likes it.
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Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
They have their flaws, but definitely not the weakness. Clements had a pick to seal the deal, but he fumbled. It's true that the defense has not been clutch this year, but the if the offense could have scored another field goal in the saints and falcons game, we win. Offense and coaching has been the major problem this year.

If the D can give a FG to both teams in less than a minute, what makes u think they won't allow another 30 yard pass for a touchdown?
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Originally posted by blm7754:
Originally posted by prime21:
r u lit? the offense needs to stay on the field long enough to keep the defense juiced, some scoring might help.

Unlike in previous seasons, this is not the case. The offense IS staying on the field. They just make a big mistake before they can score. The defense is getting plenty of rest time. They just need to play better when the game is on the line.

Totally agree. Despite the mistakes our offense makes, they have been staying on the field longer than previous years. The offense can move the ball, they can get first downs, they can throw it down the field in moments....its just that one mistake that always happens that kills the drive. But at the end of the day, the defense has been getting rest and have no excuse to being able to stop the other offense.

Question is they were able to stop the offense (NO and ATL) or at least limit them the whole game but on the last drive, they can't do it? If you ask me the defensive calls get more preventative to prevent the big play but in my opinion I'd send the pressure and if they get the big play, then lucky them. But you can't sit back especially with Brees and Ryan at QB, you'll get picked apart. Prevent defense is great from getting a TD but not to get into FG range.
[ Edited by Baldie on Oct 6, 2010 at 9:39 AM ]
If the offense scored more than 7 points it wouldn't have mattered how many yards they gave up on the last drive. We wouldn't needed a "simple" defensive stop.

LOL at simple
forget all of the three and outs that tire out the defense.
Dude any good defense can make 7 points stand up four quarters! Man we suck! Alex and the offense shouldn't have to go out every week and score points! Alex should not have to put together long drives that wear out the other teams defense, no way it is unfair, this defense has to do more! This defense needs to start putting points on the board too! Ask Nate why he felt the need to score rather than just step out of bounds! LOL
Originally posted by prime21:
r u lit? the offense needs to stay on the field long enough to keep the defense juiced, some scoring might help.

The 49ers have won the Time Of Possession battle in two of their four games and are right near the middle of the pack in TOP on the season at 29:14 per game. Considering they are mid-pack in intercepted passes and dead last in forced fumbles that tells us that the offense has stayed on the field plenty long enough to win games.
[ Edited by Gavintech on Oct 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM ]
Actually, Clement's Int WAS that one stop the D needed to seal the game...
Listen to yourself - get rid of Alex and our problems are solved. Do you not understand that it is a team sport, and the outcome is determined by the play of a minimum of 22 players. No QB (not even Manning) can be so dominant in this league that he can overcome an average OL, average receivers, average OC, average defense, and stupid mistakes.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Listen to yourself - get rid of Alex and our problems are solved. Do you not understand that it is a team sport, and the outcome is determined by the play of a minimum of 22 players. No QB (not even Manning) can be so dominant in this league that he can overcome an average OL, average receivers, average OC, average defense, and stupid mistakes.

I don't put it all on Alex, but to think he is not a problem is delusional. Yes the D could be better we are weak up front, so are a lot of teams, we are soft on the back side so are a lot of teams.
You couple a slightly above average D with an average O you will play .500 ball, you put an an awful QB at the helm of that offense and you are 0-4!

It is my honest opinion, based on years of football experience that Alex makes this offense worse not better. We have above average talent across the board on offense in all areas except one.

We are weak as a team because we have an awful head coach and an awful QB.

YES our defense is average, we have put all our big draft picks in the last several seasons (other than Willis) on the offensive side of the ball! We need to show the D some love this offseason.

D-line grade C
LB's grade B+
Corners grade C
Safeties Grade B
Coaching a solid B

Not all that impressive really, but it should be enough to keep us in games, and win a few if we had ANY help from the offense! & points! really not enough to beat the Falcons!
The Defensive coordinator is the weakness.

We were blitzing hard to start the game, the falcons adjusted, and we never readjusted.. and they went on a 16-0 scoring run.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Dude any good defense can make 7 points stand up four quarters! Man we suck! Alex and the offense shouldn't have to go out every week and score points! Alex should not have to put together long drives that wear out the other teams defense, no way it is unfair, this defense has to do more! This defense needs to start putting points on the board too! Ask Nate why he felt the need to score rather than just step out of bounds! LOL

Any defense? Dude, are you high? You do realize that when a Defense has to play the entire 2nd half because the offense goes 1, 2, 3 punt on every possession, that they will get tired? Some of you really have no clue what is going on out on the football field. You clearly have never played this sport or any sport in your entire life.
Originally posted by Hollywood:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Dude any good defense can make 7 points stand up four quarters! Man we suck! Alex and the offense shouldn't have to go out every week and score points! Alex should not have to put together long drives that wear out the other teams defense, no way it is unfair, this defense has to do more! This defense needs to start putting points on the board too! Ask Nate why he felt the need to score rather than just step out of bounds! LOL

Any defense? Dude, are you high? You do realize that when a Defense has to play the entire 2nd half because the offense goes 1, 2, 3 punt on every possession, that they will get tired? Some of you really have no clue what is going on out on the football field. You clearly have never played this sport or any sport in your entire life.

And it gives the offense more looks to make adjustments against that defense. The more time an offense has to adjust, they will find a weak area sooner or later.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Hollywood:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Dude any good defense can make 7 points stand up four quarters! Man we suck! Alex and the offense shouldn't have to go out every week and score points! Alex should not have to put together long drives that wear out the other teams defense, no way it is unfair, this defense has to do more! This defense needs to start putting points on the board too! Ask Nate why he felt the need to score rather than just step out of bounds! LOL

Any defense? Dude, are you high? You do realize that when a Defense has to play the entire 2nd half because the offense goes 1, 2, 3 punt on every possession, that they will get tired? Some of you really have no clue what is going on out on the football field. You clearly have never played this sport or any sport in your entire life.

And it gives the offense more looks to make adjustments against that defense. The more time an offense has to adjust, they will find a weak area sooner or later.

except our coachs
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Hollywood:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Dude any good defense can make 7 points stand up four quarters! Man we suck! Alex and the offense shouldn't have to go out every week and score points! Alex should not have to put together long drives that wear out the other teams defense, no way it is unfair, this defense has to do more! This defense needs to start putting points on the board too! Ask Nate why he felt the need to score rather than just step out of bounds! LOL

Any defense? Dude, are you high? You do realize that when a Defense has to play the entire 2nd half because the offense goes 1, 2, 3 punt on every possession, that they will get tired? Some of you really have no clue what is going on out on the football field. You clearly have never played this sport or any sport in your entire life.

And it gives the offense more looks to make adjustments against that defense. The more time an offense has to adjust, they will find a weak area sooner or later.

except our coachs

That's because we don't have a guy who can throw anything other than a drag route, seam route to the TE, and a screen pass. We are limited. Believe me, no one is limiting this offense on purpose. Singletary, Mike Johnson both want to dominate.
[ Edited by Joecool on Oct 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM ]
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