Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
No, there are exceptions. I never said we must be a great defense. The side to most coins is that you turn the ball over and most likely, you lose.
The point is that if you generate TO's, you win. The fact is, if we have even been an average defense, we probably would have won 3 games by now. Last year, the issue was field position and TOP for the offense. This year those excuses don't exist and the defense has actually gotten much worse.
It's not like we've been playing stellar offenses either. The ONLY top ten team in scoring we've played is #7 in Philly @ 24.4 points a game and we played them with basically, their second string offense d/t all the injuries and change in QB; a QB we knew all week we'd be playing.
Atlanta = 22.6
New Orleans - 19.8
Kansas City = 19.3
Seattle = 18.8
We actually held ATL, NO, and SEA QBs to the required yardage in terms of trying to stop the passing game. This defense has gotten 5 turnovers. Give any of those teams 3 turnovers and those points per game increase.
You can't deny 15 turnovers in 5 games. We can absolutely point out huge game-changers such as the pick 6 in SEA, fumble 6 last week, and other 3 or 4 turnovers against NO. The KC game was the only one we utterly got outcoached.
Nobody is saying TO's don't kill you...but then again, getting no TO's is the same concept so it's a wash even when one of those TO's is on "defense." And the bigger question is, how many of those TO's actually resulted in points that could be contributed to the offense? Meaning, the offensive TO put the defense's back against the wall which lead to easy points for the opposition.
Let's dive into it...let's look at the most recent game:
07:53 1 05:30 PHI 25 10 75
Touchdown - this one's on the defense 100% as the momentum was in our favor after the opening drive TD by the offense
00:16 1 03:31 SFO 45 7 31
Field Goal - it's a wash even after the Gore fumble here. 3 and out here or even two first downs (20 yards) here make for a long, tough FG in swirling winds. But no, we give up 31 yards and give up the easy FG
07:47 2 02:41 PHI 3 5 14
Punt - this TO is like an ideal punt so no biggie given they are backed up at their own 3 yard line
03:03 2 01:10 PHI 47 3 53
Touchdown - this is on ST coverage and the defense. Jackson returns punt from 25 to own 47 then Philly drives 53 yards for a TD in three plays
00:43 2 00:27 PHI 37 3 -2 Fumble - good job by the defense but we missed the FG
07:35 4 03:00 PHI 36 6 37 Game Winning Field Goal
- On the defense when it mattered most
00:28 4 00:28 PHI 47 2 -1 End of Game - Final INT, game over
Gore also fumbled after the huge 25 yard first down to Davis from their own 18 to their 43. They drove it down to our 30 and turned it over on downs.
So, when it's all said and done, the offense put the defense against the wall "maybe" one time with a TO. The Smith fumble/TD had nothing to do with the defense. On the flip side, the defense caused one real TO and the offense did it's part but we missed the FG. And on the same token, the DEFENSE got no other TO's, gave up one long TD drive, then an easy 3 play TD, they could have stopped the first FG and then gave up 37 yards for their winning FG.
Even with the turnovers, the defense appeared to tank when it mattered most...right after our opening drive TD when the crowd was in it and at the end of the game when we needed a stop. ST coverage was poor on one play and we missed a FG. That hurt but nobody is talkng about Nedney's miss. Two offensive TO's hurt us, the Alex fumble and the last INT of the game thanks to Davis. The rest were just momentum killers but didn't affect the game.
I'd lay most of the blame on the defense this game esp. how easily this second string offense marched down the field on us with ease...when it mattered most! As for the rest, ST coverage was good all game and the retrun game was terrific and the offense was THE reason we were even in this game...esp. with all the huge 3rd down plays they made.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 12, 2010 at 18:59:20 ]