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I think we cut the wrong QB !

  • 4949
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Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:


LOL... looks like someone else doesn't know what a franchise QB is. Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia what he was, and that was a slightly above average player at his position. You don't think that, with the weapons we currently have on offense, Smith could lead this team to the playoffs?

If Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia why is it that TO put up his best numbers with Garcia as his QB and not McNabb or Romo?
why hasnt any other team seen "potential" in Davis?
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
why hasnt any other team seen "potential" in Davis?

he just hit the waivers at 1PM today. Hold off on your commentary until 1PM tomorrow....
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
The quarterback, 49ers second-year pro Nate Davis, has dyslexia and often works for close to 45 minutes at night with housemate and Niners wide receiver Dominique Zeigler to master the system. Davis' learning disability often causes him to mix up basics like left and right - not a good thing in the football world when sets and blocking patterns depend on directions.

He has a tough time "getting the play out" and actually executing a given call.

"I know what I'm doing out there. It's just saying the play, that's my main problem, getting the words out," Davis said. "I made big progress from last year. I've just got to keep on working."


Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2010-06-08/49ers-qb-davis-working-hard-learn-playbook#ixzz0ysVxTnYT

If you can't say the play in the huddle how can you be an NFL QB?

I feel for the guy, if he gets things like left & right reversed on playchart. It seems to me that you would need to be motivitated to spend a lot more than 45 minutes a day to work out these issues if you want a NFL QB job. We know from comments by Singletary, the Niners were expecting him to work harder than he has.

That was my second thought. What is "close to 45 minutes a day". Is that a little bit more than 30 minutes?

The other thing is, you can't feel bad for the guy. He does have all the skills in the world, but it is his learning challenges and work ethic that are holding him back, and that is what people aren't understanding when they stand up for his football skill set, or "potential".
Originally posted by 4949:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:


LOL... looks like someone else doesn't know what a franchise QB is. Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia what he was, and that was a slightly above average player at his position. You don't think that, with the weapons we currently have on offense, Smith could lead this team to the playoffs?

If Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia why is it that TO put up his best numbers with Garcia as his QB and not McNabb or Romo?

One reason is after Jerry Rice left, TO became the guy the 49ers designed plays around. They didn't have any other threats. On the other teams, he was the new hired gun, but there were other established good players on those teams.
Originally posted by 4949:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:


LOL... looks like someone else doesn't know what a franchise QB is. Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia what he was, and that was a slightly above average player at his position. You don't think that, with the weapons we currently have on offense, Smith could lead this team to the playoffs?

If Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia why is it that TO put up his best numbers with Garcia as his QB and not McNabb or Romo?


Best numbers? His highest average per reception was 16.7 with Dallas in 2007. His highest yards per game was 109 with the Eagles in 2005. Terrell Owens was pretty consistent no matter who his QB was:

http://www.nfl.com/players/terrellowens/careerstats?id=OWE755129
If Nate Davis has the "potential" that some of you think he does, Indianapolis and New England will fight over signing him. If, on the other hand, 31 other GMs do not sign him, then I would have to wonder why we would.
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Wow... this is really getting ridiculous. Check it out:

Alex Smith = Franchise Quarterback

Get used to it.

I'm sure we'll draft another "QB project" in next years draft for everyone to obsess and/or snivel about. "He's the best 3rd stringer EVER!" or "No way, he's the worst 3rd stringer EVER!".

The season definitely needs to start already.

are you sure of that? Alex Smith = Current Unquestioned Starter. "Franchise QB" to me implies that we're putting our full confidence and the weight of this team on his back for now and the forseeable future, as a result of his past performances.

By the end of this season, yes. I'd bet $$$ on it (if I had any, that is). I think we'll see a new multi-year contract and he'll be the QB for the foreseeable future. BUT this also means we'd have made the playoffs. Could you live with Smith at QB for the next few years if he leads us to the playoffs this year?

I think Trent Dilfer could get us to the first round playoffs this year. We have a loaded offense, a top 5 defense, and we have the 28th easiest schedule in the 32 team NFL. Getting to the playoffs should be like falling off a log in this division. It's winning in the playoffs that will be hard.

So to answer your question, all Smith has to do is WIN one (1) playoff game this year, and I'll be very happy. I don't think that's asking very much.

Who cares if Smith gets us to the first round of the playoffs or wins a game? If Smith looks good every week, and looks dangerous out there for the defense then he will be a Franchise QB and should be re-signed even if we lose in the first round, or don't make the playoffs for some other reason. It is entirely conceivable that the 49ers could win a playoff game even if Smith is below average.. if that is the case, then I wouldn't want to resign him. Let's not oversimplify the issue, and reduce everything to wins and losses.
not trying to offend anybody but I wonder sometimes how did some of you got all your bars filled in a 49ers forum. hmm
Originally posted by JCStormbringer:
not trying to offend anybody but I wonder sometimes how did some of you got all your bars filled in a 49ers forum. hmm

by posting a lot
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by JCStormbringer:
not trying to offend anybody but I wonder sometimes how did some of you got all your bars filled in a 49ers forum. hmm

by posting a lot

Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by JCStormbringer:
not trying to offend anybody but I wonder sometimes how did some of you got all your bars filled in a 49ers forum. hmm

by posting a lot


David Carr is awful. We shouldve snatched up Rosenfels but oh well ..... we also passed on Jimmy Clausen a few times in the draft so the 49ers must truly believe in Alex Smith to not only play well but stay healthy because our backup QB situation is pretty bad. Time will tell but I'm hoping none of our backups see the field this season. We have no QB to push Alex Smith either ....
Originally posted by hubbyt:
David Carr is awful. We shouldve snatched up Rosenfels but oh well ..... we also passed on Jimmy Clausen a few times in the draft so the 49ers must truly believe in Alex Smith to not only play well but stay healthy because our backup QB situation is pretty bad. Time will tell but I'm hoping none of our backups see the field this season. We have no QB to push Alex Smith either ....

We needed our oline to get better so we did that with our two 1st round picks and Clausen was drafted at pick 48, right before we drafted Taylor Mays
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by hubbyt:
David Carr is awful. We shouldve snatched up Rosenfels but oh well ..... we also passed on Jimmy Clausen a few times in the draft so the 49ers must truly believe in Alex Smith to not only play well but stay healthy because our backup QB situation is pretty bad. Time will tell but I'm hoping none of our backups see the field this season. We have no QB to push Alex Smith either ....

We needed our oline to get better so we did that with our two 1st round picks and Clausen was drafted at pick 48, right before we drafted Taylor Mays


I would be surprised if we didn't draft a quarterback in the middle rounds of next years draft. I think we need a corner (or two) in the early rounds.