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I think we cut the wrong QB !

Originally posted by altadenaniner:
Can someone tell me what "potanital" means?

I think its arabic for potential.
Mike Singletary on KNBR: Says the hope is that the 49ers are able to place QB Nate Davis on their practice squad.Because Nate Davis was released so late MON, the waiver process won't begin until today. Niners must wait until WED to see if he passes ...[/b]

http://twitter.com/mattbarrows/status/23245518331
http://twitter.com/mattbarrows/status/23247139462
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Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Wow... this is really getting ridiculous. Check it out:

Alex Smith = Franchise Quarterback

Get used to it.

I'm sure we'll draft another "QB project" in next years draft for everyone to obsess and/or snivel about. "He's the best 3rd stringer EVER!" or "No way, he's the worst 3rd stringer EVER!".

The season definitely needs to start already.

are you sure of that? Alex Smith = Current Unquestioned Starter. "Franchise QB" to me implies that we're putting our full confidence and the weight of this team on his back for now and the forseeable future, as a result of his past performances.
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
REALLY?

Okay EEEEEENough already.

Christ we're talking about the THIRD STRING QB!!!!!

I swear you would have though we traded Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis to the Cardinald for Matt Lienart and a 7th round pick.

Again say it with me .....

THIRD STRING.

Now say this with me.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A FRANCHISE QB SINCE GARCIA(haven't been to the playoffs since...gee what a co-in-ki-dink huh)

Nothing matters until the Niners either get a Franchise QB or develop a once in a couple of decades type of Defense.

So unless you believe that Franchise QB's can't start their careers as 3rd stringers...I would say that being a 3rd sring QB does not automatically invalidate the overall importance of that player to the future of the Franchise

but 3rd string QBs in the NFL level dont develop through practice and coaching during the season because they dont get reps. They have to improve in the offseason and be ready at a moments notice. The team, notably singletary, did not believe that Davis did those things.
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
REALLY?

Okay EEEEEENough already.

Christ we're talking about the THIRD STRING QB!!!!!

I swear you would have though we traded Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis to the Cardinald for Matt Lienart and a 7th round pick.

Again say it with me .....

THIRD STRING.

Now say this with me.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A FRANCHISE QB SINCE GARCIA(haven't been to the playoffs since...gee what a co-in-ki-dink huh)

Nothing matters until the Niners either get a Franchise QB or develop a once in a couple of decades type of Defense.

So unless you believe that Franchise QB's can't start their careers as 3rd stringers...I would say that being a 3rd sring QB does not automatically invalidate the overall importance of that player to the future of the Franchise


LOL... looks like someone else doesn't know what a franchise QB is. Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia what he was, and that was a slightly above average player at his position. You don't think that, with the weapons we currently have on offense, Smith could lead this team to the playoffs?
Originally posted by cNiner:
It shows how Sing is not there at all, if you have no faith in your Back up qb aka Carr why keep him ? we should have cut him and moved on with troy Smith insted of getting rid of Nat lots of potanital Davis ! Sing got to question this decision



I sometimes wish we could cut some fans from the Faithful... Did you ever think that Sing has less faith in Davis starting an NFL game than he has in Carr starting?
NT is officially off its foundations and melting down.

~Ceadder
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
REALLY?

Okay EEEEEENough already.

Christ we're talking about the THIRD STRING QB!!!!!

I swear you would have though we traded Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis to the Cardinald for Matt Lienart and a 7th round pick.

Again say it with me .....

THIRD STRING.

Now say this with me.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A FRANCHISE QB SINCE GARCIA(haven't been to the playoffs since...gee what a co-in-ki-dink huh)

Nothing matters until the Niners either get a Franchise QB or develop a once in a couple of decades type of Defense.

So unless you believe that Franchise QB's can't start their careers as 3rd stringers...I would say that being a 3rd sring QB does not automatically invalidate the overall importance of that player to the future of the Franchise


LOL... looks like someone else doesn't know what a franchise QB is. Terrell Owens made Jeff Garcia what he was, and that was a slightly above average player at his position. You don't think that, with the weapons we currently have on offense, Smith could lead this team to the playoffs?

Smith could follow these weapons to the Playoffs; but, lead them? I hope so; but, he still hasn't shown us that he can do that...
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
REALLY?

Okay EEEEEENough already.

Christ we're talking about the THIRD STRING QB!!!!!

I swear you would have though we traded Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis to the Cardinald for Matt Lienart and a 7th round pick.

Again say it with me .....

THIRD STRING.

Now say this with me.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A FRANCHISE QB SINCE GARCIA(haven't been to the playoffs since...gee what a co-in-ki-dink huh)

Nothing matters until the Niners either get a Franchise QB or develop a once in a couple of decades type of Defense.

So unless you believe that Franchise QB's can't start their careers as 3rd stringers...I would say that being a 3rd sring QB does not automatically invalidate the overall importance of that player to the future of the Franchise

But realistically how many "future franchise" qb's are 3rd string in there 2nd year? I'm sure that list is real short of guys who went from 3rd string to franchise qb's. Chances are if the guy has franchise potential then he's moving up your depth chart and not just stuck in the same position. And maybe that's why they did cut him b/c they saw that he doesn't have it. Only time will tell if they were correct.
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Wow... this is really getting ridiculous. Check it out:

Alex Smith = Franchise Quarterback

Get used to it.

I'm sure we'll draft another "QB project" in next years draft for everyone to obsess and/or snivel about. "He's the best 3rd stringer EVER!" or "No way, he's the worst 3rd stringer EVER!".

The season definitely needs to start already.

are you sure of that? Alex Smith = Current Unquestioned Starter. "Franchise QB" to me implies that we're putting our full confidence and the weight of this team on his back for now and the forseeable future, as a result of his past performances.

By the end of this season, yes. I'd bet $$$ on it (if I had any, that is). I think we'll see a new multi-year contract and he'll be the QB for the foreseeable future. BUT this also means we'd have made the playoffs. Could you live with Smith at QB for the next few years if he leads us to the playoffs this year?
Originally posted by altadenaniner:
Can someone tell me what "potanital" means?
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by wwrivers:
Originally posted by danimal:
I agree. Just does not make sense to me either. Nate was lazy in the offseason. OK, well, he still has upside. And this team really does not NEED a great #2 now anyway.

I never understand why teams who are not competing for a Super Bowl put too much thought on their backup QB.

You either have a Franchise QB or you don't.

If you do have one, then get a good backup, no project

If you don't have one, your backup really does not matter nearly as much as your development of your next Franchise candidate does.

Does Sing really not understand the current state of this franchise?
Does Sing really only care about 2010 because he feels the difference between 8-8 and 9-7 could be his job?
If that were true, why is Baalke not protecting the interests of the Franchise?

We don't have a Franchise QB currently people!

If Alex, becomes that this season...GREAT...then I will absolutely care about our #2 being starter ready now.

If he doesn't........then we will be once again without a prospect...I am not so sure Nate Davis was not still our next shot at a Franchise guy

Sing obviously believes this team is playing for the Superbowl. And I appreciate that. Aiming for anything less would be wrong. What sort of message does he want to send to the team -- we are playing for 9-7? Hell no, go for it!

Obviously Sing feels if they lose Nate it is not too big a loss. They can draft a project next year and see how he turns out.

If T Smith does ok, expect to see Carr gone next year.

I 100% disagree. Setting unrealistic goals for any team of any season can sometimes be at the expense of the Franchise and their future. So, yes, you can Aim High and Be Wrong all at the same time

I agree that setting unrealistic goals can hurt a team. So, yes, I agree you can Aim High and Be Wrong at the same time.

I disagree about this team, however. There is potential to go far into the playoffs with this team (there is also potential to go 8-8 and miss the playoffs). I appreciate Sing's optimism, and his will to win now. I also think he is very disappointed in Nate Davis, and doesn't see him as the QB of the future. Put those two together and it leads to cutting Davis and adding a guy Sing can trust. If the team really felt Nate was the future (and Smith isn't), there is no way they would cut him.
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
REALLY?

Okay EEEEEENough already.

Christ we're talking about the THIRD STRING QB!!!!!

I swear you would have though we traded Vernon Davis and Patrick Willis to the Cardinald for Matt Lienart and a 7th round pick.

Again say it with me .....

THIRD STRING.

Now say this with me.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A FRANCHISE QB SINCE GARCIA(haven't been to the playoffs since...gee what a co-in-ki-dink huh)

Nothing matters until the Niners either get a Franchise QB or develop a once in a couple of decades type of Defense.

So unless you believe that Franchise QB's can't start their careers as 3rd stringers...I would say that being a 3rd sring QB does not automatically invalidate the overall importance of that player to the future of the Franchise

but 3rd string QBs in the NFL level dont develop through practice and coaching during the season because they dont get reps. They have to improve in the offseason and be ready at a moments notice. The team, notably singletary, did not believe that Davis did those things.

Understood and agreed. BUT, if one believes that he should have another shot at another offseason, then he should have been kept as our #3.

For the following reasons.
1. He has a small salary
2. If cut, we could lose him forever
3. The difference between T.Smith and Nate at #3 is not going to affect the 2010 season in any real way

I really don't care what Sing thinks, this should have been Trent's call. If Trent believes Nate was going to f**k up next off season, then by all means...cut him now.

If Nate turns out for somebody else, this is all on Baalke imo
Originally posted by 666SF666SF:
Originally posted by altadenaniner:
Can someone tell me what "potanital" means?

I could be wrong; but, I think it's slang for "Pot and Tail" He just mispelled it, should be "Potantail"

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Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Wow... this is really getting ridiculous. Check it out:

Alex Smith = Franchise Quarterback

Get used to it.

I'm sure we'll draft another "QB project" in next years draft for everyone to obsess and/or snivel about. "He's the best 3rd stringer EVER!" or "No way, he's the worst 3rd stringer EVER!".

The season definitely needs to start already.

are you sure of that? Alex Smith = Current Unquestioned Starter. "Franchise QB" to me implies that we're putting our full confidence and the weight of this team on his back for now and the forseeable future, as a result of his past performances.

By the end of this season, yes. I'd bet $$$ on it (if I had any, that is). I think we'll see a new multi-year contract and he'll be the QB for the foreseeable future. BUT this also means we'd have made the playoffs. Could you live with Smith at QB for the next few years if he leads us to the playoffs this year?

I think Trent Dilfer could get us to the first round playoffs this year. We have a loaded offense, a top 5 defense, and we have the 28th easiest schedule in the 32 team NFL. Getting to the playoffs should be like falling off a log in this division. It's winning in the playoffs that will be hard.

So to answer your question, all Smith has to do is WIN one (1) playoff game this year, and I'll be very happy. I don't think that's asking very much.