Dont blame Alex Smith...

That INT was on Smith, but the rest of the offensive woe was on the horrid OL. Smith played OK overall.

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

I'll blame Alex just like everyone used to blame Hill for his losses. This time I will give more blame to the O-line.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

Crabtree tripped and was falling down when the DB jumped to INT the pass if he doesn't trip he has a chance to make a play on the ball. Not every pass is going to be perfect just one of those plays.

I really don't see why it matters.

People bashing Alex Smith are being ridiculous. Anyone who knows anything about football should understand that the game is won or lost in the trenches. Our OL gets blown up at the point of contact on most downs, leaving our QB with about 1 or 2 seconds to survey the field, go through his progressions, and find the open receivers. One of the reasons Raye calls plays the way he does is that he is trying to disguise our glaring weakness, which is that our OL cannot block or pass protect.

If any of you really think that we can bring in some superstar quarterback who is going to light up the field and make this team into an offensive powerhouse, then you better think again. If we bring in some other quarterback under these same conditions, he is going to fail miserably, and we are going to go back to the same issue with all you fans again bashing the QB and asking for another.

The fact of the matter is that Alex Smith is the best quarterback on this team and he IS our QB of the future. We better get used to it and start providing him with the necessary help in order to allow him to develop into the great player he has the potential to be. Anyone who watched last night's game and did not realize the abilities that Alex gives this team is living in denial and seems to be wanting Alex to fail only to prove a point.

Beginning in the first drive, Alex was able to turn a broken play into a fantastic pass to Crabtree on the run. He was actually avoiding pressure, running to his right and back, and flung a perfect laser to Crabtree as he was falling backwards. Not every quarterback can do that, and Hill especially could not have come up with that play. No knock on Hill, as I like him also, but he simply does not possess the physical tools that Alex has. Then on several other plays Alex was able to avoid pressure, go through his reads in about 2 seconds and make an improvised play that got us positive yardage. Under these conditions his performance was actually quite impressive, except to the delusional fan who lives in a fantasy where a superhero QB can step onto the field with this Offensive line and deliver Peyton-like performances.

As for the underthrown ball to Crabtree, yes it was underthrown, but how many times have we seen QB's in this league underthrow their receivers, but still come away with a completion and sometimes a TD. Just last Sunday Drew Brees threw a badly underthrown ball downfield, but Robert Meachem came back, jumped, caught the ball, avoided two defenders, and scored a TD. To think that your QB is going to throw a pinpoint accurate deep ball every time is beyond ludicrous, and verges on insanity.

The bottom line is that unless we fix our glaring problems on the Offensive Line, do not expect to have a successful offense, regardless of who is under center. And all of you asking to play Nate Davis, please check yourself into the nearest mental institution in order to get your head examined. Are you seriously going to risk destroying the confidence, and possibly the career, of a young QB who had some bright spots in a couple pre-season games playing against 3rd and 4th stringers who were subsequently released by their teams? It's all about the OL, and until we get an effective line that an pass protect and create holes, we should expect to continue to struggle on the offensive side of the ball.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

I saw the game. It's not like they were standing still, they both had to slow down and play the ball and the DB did a better job than Crabtree did, plain and simple.

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

Crabtree tripped and was falling down when the DB jumped to INT the pass if he doesn't trip he has a chance to make a play on the ball. Not every pass is going to be perfect just one of those plays.

I really don't see why it matters.

I just mentioned that if Smith would of hit Crabtree in stride it would of been an easy Touchdown. The fact it was under thrown and behind made him trip because he had to adjust to the bad thrown ball.

Difference between good and bad Qb's. Good Qb's would of made that throw bad QB's well you saw the throw simple as that.

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

I saw the game. It's not like they were standing still, they both had to slow down and play the ball and the DB did a better job than Crabtree did, plain and simple.

Dude if they were standing still Crabtree would of not tripped. Had his man beat underthrown ball Crabtree trips trying to stop and adjust to the bad thrown ball and INT. Qb throws in stride and results in a Touchdown, open your eyes it was not a jump ball situation but Alex Smith sure thought it was when Crabtree was running vertical and open just resulted in a bad throw.

I didn't see that...I was on my way to Dave & Buster's to watch the game with some friends.....

But if Alex coulda made a TD play with Crabs & resulted in a INT....tells me one thing: CONTINUE WORKING BOYZ.....LIVE & LEARN.

Originally posted by Nes49:
I didn't see that...I was on my way to Dave & Buster's to watch the game with some friends.....

But if Alex coulda made a TD play with Crabs & resulted in a INT....tells me one thing: CONTINUE WORKING BOYZ.....LIVE & LEARN.

Ohh yeah if it was a better thrown ball it would of been a TD. Crabtree had one bad play and was the drop that resulted in the miss field goal by Nedney. Would of gave us 1st and Goal but he drop the ball trying to run without him having the ball. Took his eye off the ball.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Nes49:
I didn't see that...I was on my way to Dave & Buster's to watch the game with some friends.....

But if Alex coulda made a TD play with Crabs & resulted in a INT....tells me one thing: CONTINUE WORKING BOYZ.....LIVE & LEARN.

Ohh yeah if it was a better thrown ball it would of been a TD. Crabtree had one bad play and was the drop that resulted in the miss field goal by Nedney. Would of gave us 1st and Goal but he drop the ball trying to run without him having the ball. Took his eye off the ball.

1 thing to factor is: Crabs is a ROOKIE! Plus he missed TC, preseason & s few games.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by HaiGuise:

Originally posted by Ninerman49:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by KALI-KING:
That dep throw was not Alex's fault, Crabtree was turned the wrong way, and then slipped.

He overthrew him, bad!

overthrew him or under-threw him? you alex smith haters have to make up ur minds..

it seems that you guys are putting crabtree on a pedestal... I love him too, but that play was a rookie mistake im sorry.. if the play wasnt there he should have at least knocked the ball away and not slipped and just given the guy the interception

A QB has got to put the ball in a position where he can catch it. Alex did exactly that. In this case, the receiver was Zack Bowman.

lmao... ur a funny guy.. you should watch that play buddy.. when alex threw it, crabtree kept running like alex was punting or something.. it seemed like he never even tried to make a play on the ball... or he probably tried but slipped doing so.. same thing happened to jay cutler.. his reciever slipped and it was an easy pic for the niners..

Crabtree kept running because he expected the ball on his other shoulder.

exactly... and it wasnt... does that translate too.. keep running? umm no it doesnt.. it means get ur but back and make a play and not hand it over to that DB..

a perfect throw is not gonna come every time.. even payton manning overthrew a wide open reggie wayne for a td that he never got.

when alex was throwing beautiful balls to VD noone was complaing.. not many quarterbacks can throw those consistently but it seems alex has... so why do you keep nitpicking at the bad ones?

Crabtree had that, "Oh s**t it's underthrown!" moment, which is why he slipped.

Either way, the ball was underthrown which means it was a BAD throw.

exactly... he should anticipate that and make a play... not stumble

If Alex hit Crabtree in stride it would of been a Touchdown had his man beat simple as that.

The fact that it was a terrible thrown ball (underthrown and behind) it is difficult to stop your route going full speed and adjust to the ball.

Bet you Steve Young would say it was on the QB.

The DB did it!

Crabtree beat the DB don't you read that the pass was underthrown and behind? Of course the DB did it was right to him.

I saw the game. It's not like they were standing still, they both had to slow down and play the ball and the DB did a better job than Crabtree did, plain and simple.

Dude if they were standing still Crabtree would of not tripped. Had his man beat underthrown ball Crabtree trips trying to stop and adjust to the bad thrown ball and INT. Qb throws in stride and results in a Touchdown, open your eyes it was not a jump ball situation but Alex Smith sure thought it was when Crabtree was running vertical and open just resulted in a bad throw.

I never disagreed that the ball was underthrown. Not every pass is gonna be perfect. WR's have to make adjustments. There are times when the WR has to play defender on underthrown passes...you see it all the time. Sure, they don't plan for it to be a jump ball situation, but when a ball is underthrown, it becomes a jump ball situation. Crabtree knows the ball is coming, the DB doesn't. If anything, the WR should have the upper hand. I'm not saying it's all Crab's fault, but it's hardly all Alex's either.

ANOTHER Alex Smith apologist thread? Really? C'mon Mods. This is insane. Allow one apologist thread to stay open, and allow the Smith dreamers to post all they want about how Alex's poor play was to blame on the wrong shade of grass on Bill Walsh field, or whatever excuse they want to use.

Alex Smith is HORRIBLE. We should have lost last night's game. Had Shaun Hill played -- we would have destroyed the Bears.

But no -- instead we're stuck with yet another Alex Smith Sucktacular and yet another Smith apologist thread.