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singletary MAKING BIG MISTAKES.

I like how SD emphasized big mistakes by writing it in all caps

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Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!


If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?

The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.

Disagree. Most good teams have a good O and D line. Aaron Rodgers is a much better passer than Hill, has some very explosive playmakers at the WR position and has a much better offensive minded coaching staff.
hey maybe he's right.......Singletary sucks we should just get rid of him and try someone else....the players on the field have nothing to do with it...........
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Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!


If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?

The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.

Disagree. Most good teams have a good O and D line. Aaron Rodgers is a much better passer than Hill, has some very explosive playmakers at the WR position and has a much better offensive minded coaching staff.

Correct!
Two different situations between here and Denver. In Denver, they had a better team w/ some aged veterans already and they brought in a couple vets too. Here, this team is still very young and raw. Sing will not do the pep talks once these guys gel together and get some game time under their belts. As for that Atlanta game, they had two weeks to prepare for us and we had one. They brought out a lot of different looks they hadn't showed this season. The players, just didn't play up to their ability that game. That will change, again it's a young team, it's amazing that they didn't have mental lapse games like that earlier this year or last half of last year.
Originally posted by FederalAgent49:
big mistake leaving shaun hill in at QB

agreed
This thread is a mistake, and so are you.
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Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
This thread is a mistake, and so are you.



Why? Because he has a differing opinion from you?
Originally posted by WINiner:
Morgan HAS made comments that if diagnosed certainly appear to not be in support of his demotion. I like your analysis LA, but Esco doesn't need your protection here, so your attempt to confuse with logic is unwarranted. You know and I know that MOST NFL players care whether they are starting or not, if they feel they are indeed starters.

We also know Singletary has touted his "accountability and hard work" idenity from the get go, which MOST people, experts included, point to as the catalyst for the early success, so why is now ok to promote someone who has NOT been accountable, nor has he been around to work hard?

I mean other then being talented at the college lvl, what exactly has Crabtree done in 2 weeks time to warrant being promoted?

I have no idea what Crabtree has done to warrant being promoted, because I'm not at practice. I do know that our WRs haven't done anything to warrant the benefit of the doubt though. Just as you can earn something through solid performance, you can also lose it by playing poorly. I doubt that this promotion would have happened if our WRs were playing well.

Crabtree's talent level and performance in practice over the last two weeks may very well have earned the starting spot, we don't know. I don't think that knocking a starting WR for the Niners out of his spot is THAT tough of a nut to crack, even in that period of time.
[ Edited by LA9erFan on Oct 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM ]
I guess we should lump all nitpicking fan talk as "big mistakes".

PS - I think it is totally hilarious that 49er fans b*tch & moan about the #1 draft pick hodling out, then b*tch & moan that the coach has the audicity to put him in the line up now he is signed. Someone call the whaaambulance.
[ Edited by djfullshred on Oct 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM ]
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'd like to defend the coach with a winning record if I may. Not saying he's great or anything like that, because that is far premature, but as of now, he's winning games....as is Hill btw.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see how he is that good. Look at the Denver coach for example. 6 - 0 in his rookie season and his team is always prepared.

Yeh, it's amazing. By this standard McDaniels is one of maybe 3 good coaches in NFL history. Walsh went 2-14 (if I'm not mistaking?) his first year...Should have fired him on the spot!

Singletary:

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Lack of preperation - Where were the X's and O's preperation for the Atlanta game? They got their butt kicked all over the field and didn't appear ready or well coached.

They got out coached badly, but a very very good coach coming off of a bye week. It's hard to beat good coaches after a bye, it really is. But to say he hasn't been prepared or doesn't know X's and O's based on one game is highly overreactive. His preparation for AZ (this year and last) was very good. The team was consistently able to get to Warner, keep the game at their own pace, and use the run (which wasn't working!) to set up the pass when it mattered. AZ is a more talented team across the board, and Singletary out coached them. The Seattle game wasn't as much coaching as Singletary's physical stamp. The Viking's game was phenomenally coached. With Gore coming out on the first run of the game, Staley getting blown up for an almost fumble of the first snap of the game, and Favre scoring very early on, this looked to be a blow out. The staff made absolutely great adjustments at the half and almost beat a very very good team at home. Forget St. Luis, they're not an NFL team and very hard to gauge. Very bad coaching job in ATL, granted. But otherwise a very solid performance.

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Taking timeouts to give worthless PEP RALLY's... Can you picture Bill Walsh doing this? That PEP RALLY cost a challenge later in the game which was a momentum changer and a game changer if it was a close game. Luckily we got blown out like we often do.

Would Walsh do that? No. He's not Walsh. But maybe Parcells would. Maybe Cower would. Maybe Didka would. Maybe Tomlin would. Some guys coach one way, some guys coach another way. In hindsight those timeouts were badly used, but I do understand that he has a different style about him than Walsh. He's not going to manage the game as well as Walsh, but he may get the most out of his players in his own way. Plus, lets not compare the guy to Walsh. There is one, MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE 2 coaches in the league who can even start to be compared to Bill Walsh. The recently hired Mike Singletary is clearly not one of them. And what do you mean by getting blow our like we "often" do? Sing got blown out twice as I recall. ATL this past game, and Seattle, in his very first game on a short week. I think it's fair to give him a pass given all the circumstances on that one.

Chilo a starter and rotating Guards... Where is the continuity to the offensive line? Find a starter and stick with it. If you don't know who your starters are you aren't a real good coach.
I'm sorry, but to me this comment makes NO sense. How do you establish who your starters are if you don't monitor them in games? Walsh changed starters all the time while establishing who the better players are. It's not ideal, but in your first year as a coach you need to establish who is the best 11 on the field, and trial and error are the ways to do that. The Colts have done this with their O-line, specifically with Ugough. I'm not even defending Sing on this one, just don't agree with the logic at all.

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Elevating DIVA (Crabtree) to a starter after missing all of preseason, all the games and training camp. Obviously he is not ready. He barely knows the plays at this point. And what does it do for the locker room? He's losing his guys. Guys are already complaining. Tree hasn't earned anything yet.

Before using statements like "obviously" "not ready" lets see him play. If he comes in, runs the wrong routes, causes INTs or 3 and outs, misses blocks, etc etc etc, then I will agree. But lets see the kid play first. Willis was promoted as starter over the vet Derrick Smith instantly, but hey, that wasn't too bad. I agree, he missed training camp, etc, kind of odd that he's starting, but I think its fair to see him play first. What if he is a Willis like talent? How do you keep a guy like that off the field? And please don't make comments like "he's loosing his guys." There is no evidence for this. People said the same thing when he banished Vernon to the showers in the Seattle game. That was clearly overblown. Brandon Jones is upset that he's not getting playing time. So was Jason Hill before Crabtree even signed. There are 53 guys on the roster, and some won't get to play, usually these guys are disappointed. Jones is clearly disappointed. But his comments were not critical of the coaching staff, and he definitely did not sound like he was loosing faith in Sing. Want to see a coach loose his players? Go see the Redskins locker room. You can say what you will about Sing, but loosing his locker room? Simply not true.

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Yelling at opposing teams players. How is this HC worthy? A HC is supposed to be well above this level.

Bad move by Sing. I agree. Bad move. Appologizd and went on. If this happens again I would highly question his position.

Sorry to be so critical of your comments, but I feel like they are an overreaction to one terribly coached game. He's not perfect, and learning on the go, but so did every coach. Billichik was driven out of Cleveland, and he turned out to be alright. Lets give the guy some time, because as of now, he's winning games.



Sh*t, I'm roll'n with RollinWith21n52! Damn good post.
Thanks bro, I appreciate that. Just trying to bring some sanity to an otherwise insane post
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'd like to defend the coach with a winning record if I may. Not saying he's great or anything like that, because that is far premature, but as of now, he's winning games....as is Hill btw.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see how he is that good. Look at the Denver coach for example. 6 - 0 in his rookie season and his team is always prepared.

Yeh, it's amazing. By this standard McDaniels is one of maybe 3 good coaches in NFL history. Walsh went 2-14 (if I'm not mistaking?) his first year...Should have fired him on the spot!

Singletary:

Quote:

Lack of preperation - Where were the X's and O's preperation for the Atlanta game? They got their butt kicked all over the field and didn't appear ready or well coached.

They got out coached badly, but a very very good coach coming off of a bye week. It's hard to beat good coaches after a bye, it really is. But to say he hasn't been prepared or doesn't know X's and O's based on one game is highly overreactive. His preparation for AZ (this year and last) was very good. The team was consistently able to get to Warner, keep the game at their own pace, and use the run (which wasn't working!) to set up the pass when it mattered. AZ is a more talented team across the board, and Singletary out coached them. The Seattle game wasn't as much coaching as Singletary's physical stamp. The Viking's game was phenomenally coached. With Gore coming out on the first run of the game, Staley getting blown up for an almost fumble of the first snap of the game, and Favre scoring very early on, this looked to be a blow out. The staff made absolutely great adjustments at the half and almost beat a very very good team at home. Forget St. Luis, they're not an NFL team and very hard to gauge. Very bad coaching job in ATL, granted. But otherwise a very solid performance.

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Taking timeouts to give worthless PEP RALLY's... Can you picture Bill Walsh doing this? That PEP RALLY cost a challenge later in the game which was a momentum changer and a game changer if it was a close game. Luckily we got blown out like we often do.

Would Walsh do that? No. He's not Walsh. But maybe Parcells would. Maybe Cower would. Maybe Didka would. Maybe Tomlin would. Some guys coach one way, some guys coach another way. In hindsight those timeouts were badly used, but I do understand that he has a different style about him than Walsh. He's not going to manage the game as well as Walsh, but he may get the most out of his players in his own way. Plus, lets not compare the guy to Walsh. There is one, MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE 2 coaches in the league who can even start to be compared to Bill Walsh. The recently hired Mike Singletary is clearly not one of them. And what do you mean by getting blow our like we "often" do? Sing got blown out twice as I recall. ATL this past game, and Seattle, in his very first game on a short week. I think it's fair to give him a pass given all the circumstances on that one.

Chilo a starter and rotating Guards... Where is the continuity to the offensive line? Find a starter and stick with it. If you don't know who your starters are you aren't a real good coach.
I'm sorry, but to me this comment makes NO sense. How do you establish who your starters are if you don't monitor them in games? Walsh changed starters all the time while establishing who the better players are. It's not ideal, but in your first year as a coach you need to establish who is the best 11 on the field, and trial and error are the ways to do that. The Colts have done this with their O-line, specifically with Ugough. I'm not even defending Sing on this one, just don't agree with the logic at all.

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Elevating DIVA (Crabtree) to a starter after missing all of preseason, all the games and training camp. Obviously he is not ready. He barely knows the plays at this point. And what does it do for the locker room? He's losing his guys. Guys are already complaining. Tree hasn't earned anything yet.

Before using statements like "obviously" "not ready" lets see him play. If he comes in, runs the wrong routes, causes INTs or 3 and outs, misses blocks, etc etc etc, then I will agree. But lets see the kid play first. Willis was promoted as starter over the vet Derrick Smith instantly, but hey, that wasn't too bad. I agree, he missed training camp, etc, kind of odd that he's starting, but I think its fair to see him play first. What if he is a Willis like talent? How do you keep a guy like that off the field? And please don't make comments like "he's loosing his guys." There is no evidence for this. People said the same thing when he banished Vernon to the showers in the Seattle game. That was clearly overblown. Brandon Jones is upset that he's not getting playing time. So was Jason Hill before Crabtree even signed. There are 53 guys on the roster, and some won't get to play, usually these guys are disappointed. Jones is clearly disappointed. But his comments were not critical of the coaching staff, and he definitely did not sound like he was loosing faith in Sing. Want to see a coach loose his players? Go see the Redskins locker room. You can say what you will about Sing, but loosing his locker room? Simply not true.

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Yelling at opposing teams players. How is this HC worthy? A HC is supposed to be well above this level.

Bad move by Sing. I agree. Bad move. Appologizd and went on. If this happens again I would highly question his position.

Sorry to be so critical of your comments, but I feel like they are an overreaction to one terribly coached game. He's not perfect, and learning on the go, but so did every coach. Billichik was driven out of Cleveland, and he turned out to be alright. Lets give the guy some time, because as of now, he's winning games.
OMG!! Are you using logic and reason in Niner Talk?
It's like when you get in a fight with your gf, and then foolishly rely on logic...it quickly becomes obvious that your speaking to the wrong audience. Good catch man, I'll be more careful next time.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'd like to defend the coach with a winning record if I may. Not saying he's great or anything like that, because that is far premature, but as of now, he's winning games....as is Hill btw.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see how he is that good. Look at the Denver coach for example. 6 - 0 in his rookie season and his team is always prepared.

Yeh, it's amazing. By this standard McDaniels is one of maybe 3 good coaches in NFL history. Walsh went 2-14 (if I'm not mistaking?) his first year...Should have fired him on the spot!

Singletary:

Quote:

Lack of preperation - Where were the X's and O's preperation for the Atlanta game? They got their butt kicked all over the field and didn't appear ready or well coached.

They got out coached badly, but a very very good coach coming off of a bye week. It's hard to beat good coaches after a bye, it really is. But to say he hasn't been prepared or doesn't know X's and O's based on one game is highly overreactive. His preparation for AZ (this year and last) was very good. The team was consistently able to get to Warner, keep the game at their own pace, and use the run (which wasn't working!) to set up the pass when it mattered. AZ is a more talented team across the board, and Singletary out coached them. The Seattle game wasn't as much coaching as Singletary's physical stamp. The Viking's game was phenomenally coached. With Gore coming out on the first run of the game, Staley getting blown up for an almost fumble of the first snap of the game, and Favre scoring very early on, this looked to be a blow out. The staff made absolutely great adjustments at the half and almost beat a very very good team at home. Forget St. Luis, they're not an NFL team and very hard to gauge. Very bad coaching job in ATL, granted. But otherwise a very solid performance.

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Taking timeouts to give worthless PEP RALLY's... Can you picture Bill Walsh doing this? That PEP RALLY cost a challenge later in the game which was a momentum changer and a game changer if it was a close game. Luckily we got blown out like we often do.

Would Walsh do that? No. He's not Walsh. But maybe Parcells would. Maybe Cower would. Maybe Didka would. Maybe Tomlin would. Some guys coach one way, some guys coach another way. In hindsight those timeouts were badly used, but I do understand that he has a different style about him than Walsh. He's not going to manage the game as well as Walsh, but he may get the most out of his players in his own way. Plus, lets not compare the guy to Walsh. There is one, MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE 2 coaches in the league who can even start to be compared to Bill Walsh. The recently hired Mike Singletary is clearly not one of them. And what do you mean by getting blow our like we "often" do? Sing got blown out twice as I recall. ATL this past game, and Seattle, in his very first game on a short week. I think it's fair to give him a pass given all the circumstances on that one.

Chilo a starter and rotating Guards... Where is the continuity to the offensive line? Find a starter and stick with it. If you don't know who your starters are you aren't a real good coach.
I'm sorry, but to me this comment makes NO sense. How do you establish who your starters are if you don't monitor them in games? Walsh changed starters all the time while establishing who the better players are. It's not ideal, but in your first year as a coach you need to establish who is the best 11 on the field, and trial and error are the ways to do that. The Colts have done this with their O-line, specifically with Ugough. I'm not even defending Sing on this one, just don't agree with the logic at all.

Quote:

Elevating DIVA (Crabtree) to a starter after missing all of preseason, all the games and training camp. Obviously he is not ready. He barely knows the plays at this point. And what does it do for the locker room? He's losing his guys. Guys are already complaining. Tree hasn't earned anything yet.

Before using statements like "obviously" "not ready" lets see him play. If he comes in, runs the wrong routes, causes INTs or 3 and outs, misses blocks, etc etc etc, then I will agree. But lets see the kid play first. Willis was promoted as starter over the vet Derrick Smith instantly, but hey, that wasn't too bad. I agree, he missed training camp, etc, kind of odd that he's starting, but I think its fair to see him play first. What if he is a Willis like talent? How do you keep a guy like that off the field? And please don't make comments like "he's loosing his guys." There is no evidence for this. People said the same thing when he banished Vernon to the showers in the Seattle game. That was clearly overblown. Brandon Jones is upset that he's not getting playing time. So was Jason Hill before Crabtree even signed. There are 53 guys on the roster, and some won't get to play, usually these guys are disappointed. Jones is clearly disappointed. But his comments were not critical of the coaching staff, and he definitely did not sound like he was loosing faith in Sing. Want to see a coach loose his players? Go see the Redskins locker room. You can say what you will about Sing, but loosing his locker room? Simply not true.

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Yelling at opposing teams players. How is this HC worthy? A HC is supposed to be well above this level.

Bad move by Sing. I agree. Bad move. Appologizd and went on. If this happens again I would highly question his position.

Sorry to be so critical of your comments, but I feel like they are an overreaction to one terribly coached game. He's not perfect, and learning on the go, but so did every coach. Billichik was driven out of Cleveland, and he turned out to be alright. Lets give the guy some time, because as of now, he's winning games.
OMG!! Are you using logic and reason in Niner Talk?
It's like when you get in a fight with your gf, and then foolishly rely on logic...it quickly becomes obvious that your speaking to the wrong audience. Good catch man, I'll be more careful next time.

Hey man, keep up the good posts. Niner Talk will take all the sane, reasonable and logical posters we can get.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'd like to defend the coach with a winning record if I may. Not saying he's great or anything like that, because that is far premature, but as of now, he's winning games....as is Hill btw.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see how he is that good. Look at the Denver coach for example. 6 - 0 in his rookie season and his team is always prepared.

Yeh, it's amazing. By this standard McDaniels is one of maybe 3 good coaches in NFL history. Walsh went 2-14 (if I'm not mistaking?) his first year...Should have fired him on the spot!

Singletary:

Quote:

Lack of preperation - Where were the X's and O's preperation for the Atlanta game? They got their butt kicked all over the field and didn't appear ready or well coached.

They got out coached badly, but a very very good coach coming off of a bye week. It's hard to beat good coaches after a bye, it really is. But to say he hasn't been prepared or doesn't know X's and O's based on one game is highly overreactive. His preparation for AZ (this year and last) was very good. The team was consistently able to get to Warner, keep the game at their own pace, and use the run (which wasn't working!) to set up the pass when it mattered. AZ is a more talented team across the board, and Singletary out coached them. The Seattle game wasn't as much coaching as Singletary's physical stamp. The Viking's game was phenomenally coached. With Gore coming out on the first run of the game, Staley getting blown up for an almost fumble of the first snap of the game, and Favre scoring very early on, this looked to be a blow out. The staff made absolutely great adjustments at the half and almost beat a very very good team at home. Forget St. Luis, they're not an NFL team and very hard to gauge. Very bad coaching job in ATL, granted. But otherwise a very solid performance.

Quote:

Taking timeouts to give worthless PEP RALLY's... Can you picture Bill Walsh doing this? That PEP RALLY cost a challenge later in the game which was a momentum changer and a game changer if it was a close game. Luckily we got blown out like we often do.

Would Walsh do that? No. He's not Walsh. But maybe Parcells would. Maybe Cower would. Maybe Didka would. Maybe Tomlin would. Some guys coach one way, some guys coach another way. In hindsight those timeouts were badly used, but I do understand that he has a different style about him than Walsh. He's not going to manage the game as well as Walsh, but he may get the most out of his players in his own way. Plus, lets not compare the guy to Walsh. There is one, MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE 2 coaches in the league who can even start to be compared to Bill Walsh. The recently hired Mike Singletary is clearly not one of them. And what do you mean by getting blow our like we "often" do? Sing got blown out twice as I recall. ATL this past game, and Seattle, in his very first game on a short week. I think it's fair to give him a pass given all the circumstances on that one.

Chilo a starter and rotating Guards... Where is the continuity to the offensive line? Find a starter and stick with it. If you don't know who your starters are you aren't a real good coach.
I'm sorry, but to me this comment makes NO sense. How do you establish who your starters are if you don't monitor them in games? Walsh changed starters all the time while establishing who the better players are. It's not ideal, but in your first year as a coach you need to establish who is the best 11 on the field, and trial and error are the ways to do that. The Colts have done this with their O-line, specifically with Ugough. I'm not even defending Sing on this one, just don't agree with the logic at all.

Quote:

Elevating DIVA (Crabtree) to a starter after missing all of preseason, all the games and training camp. Obviously he is not ready. He barely knows the plays at this point. And what does it do for the locker room? He's losing his guys. Guys are already complaining. Tree hasn't earned anything yet.

Before using statements like "obviously" "not ready" lets see him play. If he comes in, runs the wrong routes, causes INTs or 3 and outs, misses blocks, etc etc etc, then I will agree. But lets see the kid play first. Willis was promoted as starter over the vet Derrick Smith instantly, but hey, that wasn't too bad. I agree, he missed training camp, etc, kind of odd that he's starting, but I think its fair to see him play first. What if he is a Willis like talent? How do you keep a guy like that off the field? And please don't make comments like "he's loosing his guys." There is no evidence for this. People said the same thing when he banished Vernon to the showers in the Seattle game. That was clearly overblown. Brandon Jones is upset that he's not getting playing time. So was Jason Hill before Crabtree even signed. There are 53 guys on the roster, and some won't get to play, usually these guys are disappointed. Jones is clearly disappointed. But his comments were not critical of the coaching staff, and he definitely did not sound like he was loosing faith in Sing. Want to see a coach loose his players? Go see the Redskins locker room. You can say what you will about Sing, but loosing his locker room? Simply not true.

Quote:

Yelling at opposing teams players. How is this HC worthy? A HC is supposed to be well above this level.

Bad move by Sing. I agree. Bad move. Appologizd and went on. If this happens again I would highly question his position.

Sorry to be so critical of your comments, but I feel like they are an overreaction to one terribly coached game. He's not perfect, and learning on the go, but so did every coach. Billichik was driven out of Cleveland, and he turned out to be alright. Lets give the guy some time, because as of now, he's winning games.
OMG!! Are you using logic and reason in Niner Talk?
It's like when you get in a fight with your gf, and then foolishly rely on logic...it quickly becomes obvious that your speaking to the wrong audience. Good catch man, I'll be more careful next time.
great points. but how dare you be optimistic!