Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by gravelburn:
The argument that Crabtree shouln't get much time because he doesn't know the playbook is like saying Braylon Edwards should have sat out the first few games with the Jets while he learned their playbook. The fact is you want your best weapons on the field. I can't imagine Crabtree knows the playbook as well as Morgan, but the coaches obviously think that despite his late arrival, he still has some play-making ability that would be a waste if he were to be on the sideline.
Of course Singletary has to worry about how any preferential treatment might affect the rest of the team, but if Crabtree produces, no one will question it. Then again if he doesn't produce, Singletary needs to pull him back.
At this point we can't judge either way. We'll know more on Sunday (if the O-Line and Hill execute) and will continue to learn more with every week. Singletary IS taking a chance by throwing Crabtree into the mix right away, but he obviously thinks it's a risk worth taking. I'd rather have that kind of a coach than one not willing to take a risk when the outcome could help the team. Of course, as I said, whether this risk pays off remains to be seen.
Singletary is a dynamic coach who does things differently than what we're used to seeing from other NFL coaches. He takes some risks and pays for it at times. He's also very new at this and is continuing to learn. And that's what's most important- that he learns from the mistakes he makes. This team is not going to win it all this year (barring something miraculous), so right about now I welcome Singletary's risk-taking and learning.
Up until this last game, as a fan you had to be impressed with the team's (well at least the defense's) new-found inspired play. If we can see more of that along with more maturity and consistent execution, Singletary could be building something special. We definitely have lots of room for improvement in all areas, but let's not be so quick to label a decision bad because we're a long way from knowing how this story will end. I certainly prefer this to a coach who doesn't make adjustments despite obvious flaws. Have a little patience, because Singletary inherited a bad team. Change takes time (whether it be bad team to good team or HOF LB to NFL head coach) and that's whet we've got to give Singletary.
I only have one thing to address in your conundrum.
Braylon Edwards is a 5 year Vet.
Crabs is a Rookie with absolutely ZERO experience at the NFL level.
I mean you might as well have stated something along the lines of...
"Well Brett Favre started for the Vikings without having Camped with them and learned their playbook, so Nate Davis should be starting because he lit up 3rd and 4th teamers in the Preseason and he did go to Camp."
See the inequality here?
Edwards is a PROVEN Receiver who knows how to run NFL routes.
Crabtree has had what 2 weeks of catchup?
~Ceadder
I know we have our disagreements Ceadder but stop making so much sense.
I've always made sense. It may not be what you agree with but it makes sense to those that do agree with it.
lol
But I'll try to tone it down so we can have our usual debates.
Originally posted by gravelburn:
At the same time, the guy he is replacing has less than a full season of experience. So maybe the comparison to Edwards isn't accurate, but you should get my point that knowledge of the playbook isn't a complete argument for or against whether Crabtree should be playing. As long as he is prepared for the plays he has to run, there's no reason to keep a valuable weapon on the bench. And whether or not it's a good decision to play him right away cannot be determined as it will be based on how he performs. He does well as Singletary made a great choice, he screws up and the OP's argument has legitimacy. As a Niner fan, there's a lot to worry about right now, but at the same time, we all have to be hoping that some of these questionable decisions and risk taking pay off. Until they don't and the future gets much darker, I still have some faith that there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Sure there is. The guy he's "replacing" has chemistry with Hill. Not alot but it goes back to last season. Crabtree only has chemistry with Smith. Throwing him in there because he's more "talented" and the 1st round pick is only setting the team up for disaster. They'll have dodged a bullet if nothing bad happens. I've never EVER had a problem with putting the best players on the field. I do though if there is no chemistry or experience for any one player to the benefit of the team. Crabtree is Oh-fer in regards to both.
If it works out though, it would be nice.
~Ceadder
[ Edited by Ceadderman on Oct 24, 2009 at 4:30 AM ]
. Hey, sing would be a great guy to have for a grandpa, but we didn't need a grandpa ( except that big baby Vernon), we needed a high caliber NFL coach that could come in here and actually COACH. We needed a guy that could actually scheme. We could have gotten this same BS from a high school gym teacher. Heck, I would hire a high school history teacher over sing right freaking now.
